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HI dear all

I am pregnant for my first baby and I am overwhelm by the amount of things I need to do!!

I just find out I need to insurance my baby before he is born because if not he wont have any cover from mine.

I also was told to start already to search for a pediatrician in my area, list of taggers mutter, kinder garden places, etc.

I hear I have to register the baby in the geminder for some kind of government economic help.

I should be starting some kind of preparation course, to learn how to control pain , etc.

Most important , I am looking for a nice midwife in the area of Aristau (AG). I have already checked the websites of Hebammen.ch but I can not find one that is close and speak English. I also have contacted some from the Limmatal list , which is great but it seems that there is some kind of regulations (what a surprise!!!) that establish where they can work . So the couple of lovely ladies I spoke with where not register to work in Aristau.

So....Here I am still not being able to find a midwife that speak English or Spanish.

I also was searching for a Doula, even I have to find out first if my insurance cover the cost of DOulas. Did somebody use a doula and the insurance pay?

With my insurance, SAN SAN , is another story, I am trying to find out what is cover by the insurance becasue of maternity but they do not speak English, so I still not sure what is cover , what not. I have been reading some of the post in the English forum that deal with some of this points and it is being helpful, but I need some little help from someone that live in my area and can make some recommendations.

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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

-Insurance: get a pre-birth insurance (vorgeburtliche Versicherung), available from any health insurance. This is especially important if you want some additional insurances, as they will exclude any health problems that your child has when you insure it after birth.

-apply for a day care place as early as you can, at a mutitude of facitilities.

-registering at the Gemeinde is done afterwards/through the hospital

-Hebamme: make sure you don't get an esoteric/homeopathy/breast feeding ideologist.
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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

Hola Carloncha,

I can't really help you much but just wanted to say that when we first moved her I spoke almost no German and our first child arrived virtually immediately, but giving birth was still ok. The midwife who happened to be on duty at the hospital (do you definitely have to find your own midwife? we didn't, although we could if we wanted) also happened to speak rather good English and although my doctor spoke none, she was extremely kind and spoke German very s-l-o-w-l-y for us. And I did no birth-preparation classes at all and still managed to get the baby out. :-)

I would have thought that most of the younger midwives (20s and 30s) would actually speak enough English even if they don't say so on the website. And I think - I may be wrong - that the hospital midwives aren't registered on hebamme.ch because they aren't working independently - again, I could be wrong - but it might be worth going to your local hospital and asking about it

While you're working on finding the things you need, I really, really recommend taking some time to read the various articles about giving birth on www.babycentre.co.uk, which is how I learned pretty much everything I knew. Some of that stuff is specific to the UK, but they tell you all the things a birth class would tell you about breathing and positions and so on. It'll also give you an idea of what vocabulary you need to know, so you can find out how to say it in German.

Hope that helps. Muchísima suerte. (Tr: Best of luck)

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not for the birth, but the health insurance pays 10(?) visits of a Hebamme to your home after birth to teach you about childcare and other stuff.
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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

Have you considered Spital Affoltern am Albis? I believe it's not all that far from Aristau. I didn't give birth there, but I know a lot of people who have and it's apparently fantastic. After the births I had a midwife who works there come to me and she was really nice and helpful (I speak german so I don't know how her english is). Her website is www.hubamme.ch and I think she works in a team, so maybe you could try calling her for advice. She has lots of experience, is genuinely a nice person, very caring- I highly recommend her!
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-Insurance: get a pre-birth insurance (vorgeburtliche Versicherung), available from any health insurance. This is especially important if you want some additional insurances, as they will exclude any health problems that your child has when you insure it after birth.

-apply for a day care place as early as you can, at a mutitude of facitilities.

-registering at the Gemeinde is done afterwards/through the hospital

-Hebamme: make sure you don't get an esoteric/homeopathy/breast feeding ideologist.
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not for the birth, but the health insurance pays 10(?) visits of a Hebamme to your home after birth to teach you about childcare and other stuff.
Yes, and ususally that is the Midwife that tends to you in the Hospital.

and WHAT IS WRONG WITH A - " esoteric/homeopathy/breast feeding ideologist"

or would you like for the OP, NOT to breastfeed - and stuff her newborn with chemicals, at the first sign of a sniffel???
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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

I believe the insurance pays for 10 visits total with the midwife, and your nights in the hospital count toward these visits. For example, if you are in hospital 5 nights your after-care midwife can visit you at home for 5 times. I imagine if you call the hospital you have chosen, ask to speak to someone in the Gebärabteilung (maternity ward/ labor and delivery) who speaks English, they might have a list there of local midwifes or even one of their own who could also see you at home afterwards. You can also certainly visit the birthing unit in advance and there should be someone there who speaks English who can show you around and answer any questions or concerns you might have. I did this at the hospital before I gave birth and it was very helpful. They made notes on my chart and knew my preferences (medications, allergies, language, pain relief options, etc.) when I arrived for the birth - saves a lot of time when you don't want to be talking or giving long explanations between contractions! As for a pre-birth course, I second what the previous poster said: it's not necessary, but by all means take one if you want to. I attended one, but if I had to do it over again, i wouldn't go, since I learned virtually nothing that I couldn't also have learned via books or the internet. Also, in my experience, almost all the doctors spoke English. The midwives not necessarily but there was always someone around who could. Best of luck!
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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

Check out the Storchenäscht in Lenzburg. It is about half an hour away from you but well worth the travel.
I had my 4th child there not long after we arrived and I didn't (still don't ) speak any German. All but one of the midwives spoke English. The midwife that didn't (Doris) always worked with an assistant (Lottie) and she spoke English. They even arranged the initial Obstetrician appointment for me.
It had a lovely homely feel and the 5 days I spent there were wonderful. You get your own room and they have 2 rooms for partners to stay over with you.
Good luck with your search.

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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

for the insurance question. We use one of the forum members - 'insurance jenny' - she can handle all your questions and give some advice.

Personally, we are with Visana, and whilst I haven't had any problems with them with the insurance and paperwork, I can't navigate through their phone system in German or French, and they don't answer emails, but if I write to them in English it gets sorted out pretty quickly.

We have dealt with the kinderspital and about 8 Paediatricians in three years, and they all spoke plenty of english.

Another piece of advice - try your local apotheke (pharmacy) - they will give you a list of local Paediatricians, probably know who is good, and who speaks English.

If you are going to go back to paid work after the birth, then my only recommendation is to find a Paediatrician that is open Saturdays but that may be a challenge.

Are you wanting to birth at home for some reason (is that why you are seeking a midwife?) otherwise, you can use hospital-based midwifery or birthing centres staffed by midwives...contact the local hospital and ask them what is around...

I think most people here use Obstetricians as their primary care for the pregnancy and then transfer to the hospital for the birth but I know there are other options around...

Certainly you can also 'shop around' for an Obstetrician - a colleague of mine went to someone recommended for the 'expat' community and found them very formal, medical and 'of course you'd want surgery' orientated. She then shopped around and found an Obstetrician that was more 'hands off' and had a style that matched her own much better...you can do that!
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I believe the insurance pays for 10 visits total with the midwife, and your nights in the hospital count toward these visits. For example, if you are in hospital 5 nights your after-care midwife can visit you at home for 5 times. I imagine if you call the hospital you have chosen, ask to speak to someone in the Gebärabteilung (maternity ward/ labor and delivery) who speaks English, they might have a list there of local midwifes or even one of their own who could also see you at home afterwards.
This information is correct.

Concerning doulas: Swiss insurances normally don't cover doula salaries. If you are looking for a doula, see http://www.doula.ch/de/trouver-doula/liste-des-doulas/. Ask her to give you the "Aerztliche Verordnung", then hand this form over to your obstetrician. It's worth a try... one idea to cover the costs of a doula is to ask your friends and family to make a contribution to the salary . A doula will answer many of your questions.

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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

I was in your situation (no Swiss German living in Zurich), with the same questions etc. and at the time I found help and answers at the New Stork. It was a help association created by an English speaking midwife and nurse almost 20 years ago
There has been diverse opinions regarding NST, but I was happy with the help.

http://www.thestork.ch/html/midwives.html

Everything will be fine. There's excellent health care here and it's well organized.
Do have your baby insured before birth, it's a smart move.
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A slight poke, actually, if you want to nurse, make sure you do find yourself a breastfeeding ideologist. I could care less for esoteric/homeopathy shebang, but nursing, good to have somebody who knows her stuff, as they are hard to find.

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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

"homeopathic/esoteric/breastfeeding ideologist"

Was the key word there "ideologist" - as in, one who won't accept that it might genuinely be too hard for some people? It's definitely good to have someone who is good at helping with the breastfeeding - they should have a lactation consultant at the hospital too and I think insurance pays for two visits to her, at least mine did - but you don't want your midwife to make you feel guilty if for whatever reason you can't nurse or can't keep it up for the ideal first-6-months.

Just a thought. Have you been able to make any progress with all the suggestions above, Carloncha?
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Re breastfeeding:

And if all else fails, electric breast pumps can really save the day. You can rent one at your nearest apotheke and I believe your insurance will pay for it.
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Hi,

I can just help with cost of doula. In Fribourg canton two years ago it was 800 CHF, including after birth meeting, but because my doula didnt have enough experience (I was the last one, before she get the certificate) I paid only 300 CHF and get amazing help from her...VBAC case.

So I recommend ask for doula student in your canton...
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A slight poke, actually, if you want to nurse, make sure you do find yourself a breastfeeding ideologist. I could care less for esoteric/homeopathy shebang, but nursing, good to have somebody who knows her stuff, as they are hard to find.
I've been thinking about this... because for a variety of reasons, I want to do everything in my power to nurse, and I'm worried that longer-term support won't be there if I have problems. It's happened to friends of mine. Can specialists be hired privately, I wonder. Anyway, I'll ask my SIL, who's a midwife at the CHUV in Lausanne and if she gives me useful info, I'll post it here.
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Re: New expecting mum needing some guide lines from "professional mums"!

Oh I just love how every post of EF becomes an opinion war!

I had my baby in the states before I moved over here, so I can't help with the technicalities, however I know lots about breastfeeding! lol

On a more serious note, the best thing in Labor to do is have what you want to happen in mind. However have room for improvement, and improvising, because you never know what could happen. I think as a first time mom, you would feel much better having a midwife of your own selection and knowing she is on call for you and you are comfortable with her level of english. Perhaps troll this site a bit more, and possibly start a new thread JUST for the finding of a good midwife. That way if the Dr. speaks little english then she can help translate as well. Also, I don't know about you/your husbands work situation, but I know at my husband's work there are a lot of expats, and I got a lot of information from the wives there as well. So perhaps that is an option to look into for you. I also recommend having the pediatrician ahead of time as well. Sorry I can't suggest one for you as I need to fine one as well. I wish you the best of luck! If you want someone to talk to, feel free to pm me, or we could have a lunch date.

Side note: PLEASE please breastfeed, it can be very difficult, but it really is the best for you baby as a start, at the very least for the first three days so the baby can get the colostrum. OBVIOUSLY it is up to you and for you to decide, but just my two cents. Take it or leave it. Like I said, this is what I know the most about so I am happy to have a chat anytime if you would like!
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Perhpas your friend has already suggested this, but I'll throw it out there anyway: the La Leche League is a useful source of information and support for breastfeeding.
http://www.stillberatung.ch/ (don't be put off be the weblink, the site appears to be available in English, French and Italian as well as German)

I'm sure there are loads of us here who have experience with nursing and would be happy to offer support, like transatlantic said. I breastfed up to 1 year with my first and about 16 months with my second. It wasn't always easy but it was a very worthwhile experience and it's great that you want to go for it!
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A slight poke, actually, if you want to nurse, make sure you do find yourself a breastfeeding ideologist. I could care less for esoteric/homeopathy shebang, but nursing, good to have somebody who knows her stuff, as they are hard to find.
Having recently been witness to the postbirth hours of a new mother and her baby, I can see how important it is to have a midwife who understands all the variations that may need to be tried, to be put in place in the first week or more, to encourage and support any new mother who wishes to breastfeed.
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