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Old 27.05.2011, 12:32
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EHEC (E coli) outbreak

There is currently in northern Europe an outbreak of food poisoning from imported Spanish salads.

(Ten cases have been reported in Sweden, four in Denmark, three in Britain and one in the Netherlands.)

http://www.thelocal.ch/238/20110527/

http://www.thelocal.se/34018/20110526/#

http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarch...y/germanyecoli

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli_O157:H7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foodborne_illness
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Old 27.05.2011, 12:40
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There is currently in northern Europe an outbreak of food poisoning from imported Spanish salads.

(Ten cases have been reported in Sweden, four in Denmark, three in Britain and one in the Netherlands.)

http://www.thelocal.ch/238/20110527/

http://www.thelocal.se/34018/20110526/#

http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarch...y/germanyecoli

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli_O157:H7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foodborne_illness
I always said salads are bad for you.
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

And none in Spain.. how curious. But then again, they say they export only the worse

Wash your vegetables and avoid the risk.
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And none in Spain.. how curious. But then again, they say they export only the worse

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I've heard that too.

The Spanish like their food too much to eat the kind of tasteless (but ever-so-nice looking) rubbish that ends up in the supermarkets of other European countries.
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Old 27.05.2011, 18:38
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I've heard that too.

The Spanish like their food too much to eat the kind of tasteless (but ever-so-nice looking) rubbish that ends up in the supermarkets of other European countries.
I guess it's more a case of they export what makes them the most money. And many (most?) people will buy fruit and veg based on appearance rather than flavour - which is kind of obvious as you can see but not taste most produce before you buy it.

In other countries which rely on the total quality of their exported product (such as NZ lamb), I've been told by more than one person that the quality of NZ lamb available in the UK is better than cheaper than buying it in NZ itself.
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

It would be hard time for vegetarians
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I always said salads are bad for you.
Especially when they're watered with raw sewage.
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

I read that cucumbers were contaminated in Holland and that spanish export company has run tests in their premises finding no traces of alleged bacteria/virus.

By the way, the best is dedicated to exports as those markets pay much higher margin.
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Old 27.05.2011, 20:08
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In other countries which rely on the total quality of their exported product (such as NZ lamb), I've been told by more than one person that the quality of NZ lamb available in the UK is better than cheaper than buying it in NZ itself.
They claim the same about Swiss cheeses, but personally I like the stuff I get here better.

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(Ten cases have been reported in Sweden, four in Denmark, three in Britain and one in the Netherlands.)
Arent you missing the main point? A three digit number of cases in Germany, six people died!

For me this is currently beyond "wash your veggie": I do not buy salad cucumbers from Spain (the identified source) and do not eat anything with cucumbers in restaurants.
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Old 27.05.2011, 20:41
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

I just ranted about the Spanish fruit & veg in the strawberry thread! See, I told you so!

They send the hot house "industrial/factory farm" crap out of the country. The fruit and veg grown for the local market is much different. You won't see a Spaniard in Spain eating a hot house tomato!
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

I have read that this "special" bacteria is common in cows, sheep and goats, and that spreading raw sewage on the fields is also popular in all off Europe.

A few years ago there was a problem with melons in Mexico, the bacteria present in the raw sewage was taken up by the plant and was inside the edible flesh, thus making many people ill in many cities of the USA.

My big question is whether the Spanish cucumbers are safe when washed and peeled, or has the bacteria got inside the flesh?
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Old 31.05.2011, 00:21
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

I think we are sticking to goulash and canned beans for a while.
This Ehec bug has killed 14 people by now, I think it is? They say, the usual stuff, wash hands, back home they add no raw animal produce, wash your vegies thoroughly and do not eat salads that you haven't made. Gosh, that's the only thing I eat in the summer.

I think what makes people worry is the fact it is not flu eventhough it gets called a virus. And that it seems like this E coli super bug trouble everybody's been nervous about.
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I think what makes people worry is the fact it is not flu eventhough it gets called a virus. And that it seems like this E coli super bug trouble everybody's been nervous about.
I wish I could work out what you're saying here! Flu is a virus, one of thousands. E-Coli (of which this is a version) is a bacterium, also one of thousands of different types.. Nothing to do with flu. But then neither are most viruses.
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I wish I could work out what you're saying here! Flu is a virus, one of thousands. E-Coli (of which this is a version) is a bacterium, also one of thousands of different types.. Nothing to do with flu. But then neither are most viruses.
It was confosing, the first glance I had about Ehec was that people referred to it as Ehec flu, back home as well, probably because it is so fast?
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I have read that this "special" bacteria is common in cows, sheep and goats, and that spreading raw sewage on the fields is also popular in all off Europe.

My big question is whether the Spanish cucumbers are safe when washed and peeled, or has the bacteria got inside the flesh?
Every year, around a thousand people get ill from it in Germany alone. Most likely due to bad hygiene when washing vegetables.

However, for some reason the scientists couldn't really explain yet did we have within a week half the cases you normally have a year... so it must be a "special" strain. The media mentioned some halfbacked info, but I believe the problem is that this specific bacterium seems more resistant than the standard version.
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

If you search for ndm1, you get a lot of info on this.
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

Spanish vegis are very tasty, but the problem is the transport. The fridges where they carry the vergis made them loss this taste (because of the temperature).

The bacteria in Germany is being study as look like did not came from the cucumbers from Spain, instead was adquire during the travel at some point in Germany they handle the vegis and they got contaminated. So YES the cucumbers are Spanish but the bacteria is NOT!! (has not been proven yet from where is coming) PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE.

COOP stop selling spanish cucumbers.
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

Is there any difference buying the cucumbers in the plastic seal? could that have prevented the ecoli contamination?
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Re: Salad food poisoning in Europe

This is just further proof of why you should NEVER eat salads.. you have no idea where that stuff has been !!




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