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Help with baby's jet lag, please?!

My family and I arrived in Switzerland on Monday. Our 14 month-old daughter has horrible jet lag! The first 3 nights, she would not go to bed until 2 a.m. Last night, we got her to bed at midnight, but that was a big struggle. Does anyone have any advice on helping her adjust to our new time zone more quickly? We are in an apartment and I feel bad for our neighbors because it's very hard to keep a toddler quiet!

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer!
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Not really (advice-wise re the jet-lag), although a bottle of wine to the neighbours with a note explaining would probably go down well.
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You could slacken off her naps during the day for the next few days and don't leave her afternoon nap until too late so she's nice and tired at bed time.
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My family and I arrived in Switzerland on Monday. Our 14 month-old daughter has horrible jet lag! The first 3 nights, she would not go to bed until 2 a.m. Last night, we got her to bed at midnight, but that was a big struggle. Does anyone have any advice on helping her adjust to our new time zone more quickly? We are in an apartment and I feel bad for our neighbors because it's very hard to keep a toddler quiet!

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer!
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Wake baby up at 7am, keep baby up , all day, and then let baby crash at 7pm.
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Wake baby up at 9am, keep baby up , all day, and then let baby crash at 9pm.
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Re: Help with baby's jet lag, please?!

What time does she wake in the morning ? Get her up at a 'normal' breakfast time and then try to get her out into the sunshine as early as possible in the morning. That will help 're-set' her body clock.

Get out and about. I know the weather's a big gloomy, but it's not particularly cold and there's plenty of space to move your body...

Is she walking yet ? If so, get down to the local park for some exercise and to convince her that it's really 'day' time...

Also, adjusting the meals are a bit tricky, but try to make the meals little and often, and to her appetite, but make a big deal of breakfast and lunch...

My experience (three kids plus working with small children) is that you can have much more influence on what happens earlier in the day, than at bedtime.

It's harder in the summer because the sun doesn't go down until very late - my kids aged 11, 9 and 3, are going to bed between 9-10pm at the moment. The older ones make up for it by sleeping in on the weekends, and the youngest one just has a longer nap in the daytime or sleeps much earlier every third day...
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Wear her off during the day, lots of activities where she runs outside, lifts things, passes them on, exercising...I know when I tried to take out naps from our schedule if we were preparing for a long drive forexample and I needed her to sleep through, she took her naps, anyways. Anywhere, any time, on my shoulder, the minute you plop her to the buggie, off they go make up for the nap.

Just take her to the park for a day, with other kids, I bet she will have a goodnight rest after wards. Or water fun, too, works.
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How is the meal time? I watched a program once talking about adjusting body clock. They have this experiment that if you do not eat/drink on the flight at all and eat your meal as usual when you land, your body will adjust to the new timezone much easier.

So are you doing the feeding at the new timezone? Also, a hot bath 1 hour before bed time will also help as the body start to cool down and muscle relaxation will help with sleep.

Also total darkness before bed.. what is the normal bed time routine? story, snuggle etc? is there a special routine when she is unwell? may be try that as well.

Sorry, it is stressful when you move and you being tired as well. Hope she settle down soon.
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Re: Help with baby's jet lag, please?!

Wow! Thank you all for the quick replies!

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Not really (advice-wise re the jet-lag), although a bottle of wine to the neighbours with a note explaining would probably go down well.
Yes, we must do that. I want to start off well with our neighbors for sure.

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This morning, she woke up at 8:30, so we should be able to get in a short afternoon nap at a reasonable time. The afternoon naps were definitely much too late the first few days.

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Wake baby up at 7am, keep baby up , all day, and then let baby crash at 7pm.
Unfortunately, this would turn her into a maniac! She is already whiny and cranky. I can't imagine how she would act without naps!

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Her usual wake-up time is 6 a.m., so 7 a.m. would be a treat for me!

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What time does she wake in the morning ? Get her up at a 'normal' breakfast time and then try to get her out into the sunshine as early as possible in the morning. That will help 're-set' her body clock.

Get out and about. I know the weather's a big gloomy, but it's not particularly cold and there's plenty of space to move your body...

Is she walking yet ? If so, get down to the local park for some exercise and to convince her that it's really 'day' time...

Also, adjusting the meals are a bit tricky, but try to make the meals little and often, and to her appetite, but make a big deal of breakfast and lunch...

My experience (three kids plus working with small children) is that you can have much more influence on what happens earlier in the day, than at bedtime.

It's harder in the summer because the sun doesn't go down until very late - my kids aged 11, 9 and 3, are going to bed between 9-10pm at the moment. The older ones make up for it by sleeping in on the weekends, and the youngest one just has a longer nap in the daytime or sleeps much earlier every third day...
Her normal wake-up time in Chicago was 6 a.m. I would be happy if she would sleep until 7 a.m. so that she can stay up later in the evenings here. She crashed at around 7 p.m. every night at home, which didn't allow for much activity in the evenings for us.

We've been out and about a lot this week, exploring our new town. So she has been exposed to the sunlight, or lack thereof, quite a bit this week.

The meals have been so tricky! She is not eating nearly as much as she did at home. I will absolutely follow your advice on offering smaller meals more often.

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Wear her off during the day, lots of activities where she runs outside, lifts things, passes them on, exercising...I know when I tried to take out naps from our schedule if we were preparing for a long drive forexample and I needed her to sleep through, she took her naps, anyways. Anywhere, any time, on my shoulder, the minute you plop her to the buggie, off they go make up for the nap.

Just take her to the park for a day, with other kids, I bet she will have a goodnight rest after wards. Or water fun, too, works.
We'll let her run around more outside today and see how that works. Maybe we have kept her in the stroller too much while we've been exploring?

And, yes, my daughter needs her naps! She will take them no matter what!

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How is the meal time? I watched a program once talking about adjusting body clock. They have this experiment that if you do not eat/drink on the flight at all and eat your meal as usual when you land, your body will adjust to the new timezone much easier.

So are you doing the feeding at the new timezone? Also, a hot bath 1 hour before bed time will also help as the body start to cool down and muscle relaxation will help with sleep.

Also total darkness before bed.. what is the normal bed time routine? story, snuggle etc? is there a special routine when she is unwell? may be try that as well.

Sorry, it is stressful when you move and you being tired as well. Hope she settle down soon.
Mealtimes have not been so good. She is not eating very much compared to what she ate at home. I hope this begins to change quickly.

She is eating when we eat, according to the new timezone, but she just won't eat very much.

Yes, we are all very tired and that makes it harder to deal with this problem!

Thanks to everyone for your wonderful advice!
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Wow! Thank you all for the quick replies!

Mealtimes have not been so good. She is not eating very much compared to what she ate at home. I hope this begins to change quickly.

She is eating when we eat, according to the new timezone, but she just won't eat very much.
It might sound a bit far fetched but she might not be used to the "water" as our old folks put it. There is too much change in the environment for her to adjust. I know I don't like really hard water, so will have to bring a water filter with me if I know I am going to be in a hard water area. I have a very funny stomach as well, so sometimes I will have local yogurt/honey when I get to a new place (I do mean local like from farmer market). Have a little of that will help with adjusting to the local pollen etc.

hope she settle down soon!
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Re: Help with baby's jet lag, please?!

Hi Julie,
We have been through the same thing with R and we only had 1 hour time difference; not eating much, going to bed really late, waking in the night. It has been a month and things are slowly improving. I didn't realise how much the move would affect her, I just assumed she would adapt to her new room and way of life quite easily. Silly me.

What we did:
- made her new room as similar as possible in layout to her old room and added a night light
- fed her on her favourite meals, stopped trying the new stuff
- tried not to expose her to our worries and stress (it is amazing how they do pick up on it), plus putting on that brave smiley face will make you feel better
- made sure she had as much fresh air as possible in the day
- put the unpacking on hold and spent more time with her having fun

Hang on, it will get better x
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Re: Help with baby's jet lag, please?!

When my son had horrible jet lag at about one year, I finally went to the Apotheke and asked if there was anything safe to give him at that age. I was given a plant derived liquid to put in his milk at night.
Additionally, we kept him up as long as we could during the day and woke him up from napping after about 40 min. I also finally let him 'cry it out', which was difficult, but needed, I guess, because after two days and three nights of the above combo, we were back on track.
I think our biggest mistake was interacting with him too much the first few nights he was awake. He never got the message that it was time to sleep now, and changing from the 'get up and cuddle with mom and dad' message to the 'go to sleep' message was brutal for all of us.
It wasn't easy and I reallfy feel for you. Good luck!
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I think taking her out of the buggie for a day or two, completely, if you can arrange it, will help a lot. For example, if you live in the city, you just walk everywhere. Things will take a lot longer, but letting her walk a lot more, chase a ball, have her push you on the swing instead, and let her safely climb some baby playground things were always a sure proof thing to have a tired baby at bed time.
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Off-topic but should raise a grin to cheer you up a bit.
One of mine used to be awake a lot in the night even without jet-lag. She just didn't seem to need that much sleep. And now her second child is exactly the same and she realises how I suffered.
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One of mine used to be awake a lot in the night even without jet-lag. She just didn't seem to need that much sleep. And now her second child is exactly the same and she realises how I suffered.
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Re: Help with baby's jet lag, please?!

We have done the transatlantic flight about six times now (12x back and forth with a 9 hr difference) and what worked for us was that I just completely got on the schedule of my kids. (Important: I didn't have to work the next day..) After a few frustrating attempts, I just stopped fighting the jetlag and stayed up with them, then slept when they slept. (Of course with two kids, you hope that they sleep at the same time!) This lasted for about 7-9 days and then they naturally got into a more sane rhythm. Fighting it and looking at the clock just made me more miserable. We also live in an apartment complex and I feel sorry for the neighbors but I make sure the windows are shut and I don't allow noisy toys during the wee hours.
And should you be doing this a lot in the next few years, I highly recommend special DVDs when the kids get older. That way, you can doze/drool while snuggling with your kid at 3 am and time goes a lot faster! Good luck, it is really hard... I am certainly not looking forward to our next flight!
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It might sound a bit far fetched but she might not be used to the "water" as our old folks put it. There is too much change in the environment for her to adjust. I know I don't like really hard water, so will have to bring a water filter with me if I know I am going to be in a hard water area. I have a very funny stomach as well, so sometimes I will have local yogurt/honey when I get to a new place (I do mean local like from farmer market). Have a little of that will help with adjusting to the local pollen etc.

hope she settle down soon!
We are going to a farmer's market tomorrow, so I will look for some local yogurt. Thank you for this tip.

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Hi Julie,
We have been through the same thing with R and we only had 1 hour time difference; not eating much, going to bed really late, waking in the night. It has been a month and things are slowly improving. I didn't realise how much the move would affect her, I just assumed she would adapt to her new room and way of life quite easily. Silly me.

What we did:
- made her new room as similar as possible in layout to her old room and added a night light
- fed her on her favourite meals, stopped trying the new stuff
- tried not to expose her to our worries and stress (it is amazing how they do pick up on it), plus putting on that brave smiley face will make you feel better
- made sure she had as much fresh air as possible in the day
- put the unpacking on hold and spent more time with her having fun

Hang on, it will get better x
I followed your advice for dinner tonight and stuck with C's favorites and she ate much better!

I am definitely trying to avoid showing her that I am stressed or worried, but it's so hard!

We were outside a lot today and let her run around quite a bit, so hopefully we tired her out.

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When my son had horrible jet lag at about one year, I finally went to the Apotheke and asked if there was anything safe to give him at that age. I was given a plant derived liquid to put in his milk at night.
Additionally, we kept him up as long as we could during the day and woke him up from napping after about 40 min. I also finally let him 'cry it out', which was difficult, but needed, I guess, because after two days and three nights of the above combo, we were back on track.
I think our biggest mistake was interacting with him too much the first few nights he was awake. He never got the message that it was time to sleep now, and changing from the 'get up and cuddle with mom and dad' message to the 'go to sleep' message was brutal for all of us.
It wasn't easy and I reallfy feel for you. Good luck!
We also made the mistake of interacting with her too much when she woke during the night. That turned her wake-ups into 3 hour wake-ups!

I am going to make an effort to interact very little with her if/when she wakes up tonight.

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I think taking her out of the buggie for a day or two, completely, if you can arrange it, will help a lot. For example, if you live in the city, you just walk everywhere. Things will take a lot longer, but letting her walk a lot more, chase a ball, have her push you on the swing instead, and let her safely climb some baby playground things were always a sure proof thing to have a tired baby at bed time.
I followed this advice and let her walk this evening as we walked along the lake. We didn't even bring the stroller. We definitely tired her out! Thanks!


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Off-topic but should raise a grin to cheer you up a bit.
One of mine used to be awake a lot in the night even without jet-lag. She just didn't seem to need that much sleep. And now her second child is exactly the same and she realises how I suffered.
Haha! Well, then I can hope that my daughter has children like her because my daughter has never been a good sleeper! Well, maybe for the first 5 days of her life, she was!

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We have done the transatlantic flight about six times now (12x back and forth with a 9 hr difference) and what worked for us was that I just completely got on the schedule of my kids. (Important: I didn't have to work the next day..) After a few frustrating attempts, I just stopped fighting the jetlag and stayed up with them, then slept when they slept. (Of course with two kids, you hope that they sleep at the same time!) This lasted for about 7-9 days and then they naturally got into a more sane rhythm. Fighting it and looking at the clock just made me more miserable. We also live in an apartment complex and I feel sorry for the neighbors but I make sure the windows are shut and I don't allow noisy toys during the wee hours.
And should you be doing this a lot in the next few years, I highly recommend special DVDs when the kids get older. That way, you can doze/drool while snuggling with your kid at 3 am and time goes a lot faster! Good luck, it is really hard... I am certainly not looking forward to our next flight!
Thanks for the advice. We do plan to do this a lot in the next few years, and the past 5 days have me scared to death of ever doing it again!

I know that you are right, though. I need to just go with the flow and not try to change the schedule so quickly.

Do you mean to tell me that this child will sit still for more than 2 seconds someday?!
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I forgot to mention that it is 10:30 and my baby is in her bed, asleep!

Thank you all for your wonderful advice!
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