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Re: Should the word "Näggr" be used in Swiss German?

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I'm going to have to disagree with this. There ARE people who find this acceptable. Yes, some are even performing artists. Is it right? Who's to say.

But if they are alright with someone using that word in a private conversation with them, then it IS acceptable to them.

Similarly I know of people who don't find the term "black person" acceptable, and it's their right to that opinion. I won't use it in context with them.

I understand these are strong opinions you hold very close to yourself, but you must also exercise openmindness and respect people who and think differently than yourself.

are you 'black'....or possess a skin tone in the hues of brown?
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are you 'black'....or possess a skin tone in the hues of brown?

As the thread has touched on many times, the colour of one's skin should play no role in the validity or emphasis of their opinions -that my friend is what I consider being racist.

but such petty things don't really bother me. As emphasized many times I am not "black" nobody is "black.

I do have dark skin tone as I am Trinidadian.
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Nàggr was the word used..... which still surprised me that it was deemed important enough to be taught to kindergarten children.

The schools policy on bullying is: If the children cannot sort it out by themselves the an appointment is made for them and the bullies to attend a meeting to agree to stop the bullying. They said: they prefer this approach as apposed to making contact with the parents about the matter, since they believe it may damage their relationship with the parents. If you continue to get bullied, they then ask you to speak to your child about keeping away from the bullies. Interesting we thought!!! Therefore in frustration and having exhausted all avenues through the school, my husband decided to take direct action in visiting the families of the bullies, so they could be embarassed into taking action, and relieve our son of the stress!!! It worked!!!!

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Re: Should the word "Näggr" be used in Swiss German?

There is a lot of scholarly research on the problem of bullying, and a model called the Bully, Victim & Bystander. In this situation the school was being a bystander and your husband and yourself were being upstanders. However, research has shown that the teachers in particular can have a huge positive impact on the climate at the school. There are plenty of books on the topic too, some specifically written for school staff. Maybe the faculty need to receive a "gift".

During my adult french classes here this year we did a unit on appearance and I was also shocked by the worksheets. They were sexist and racist, and it was disturbing (ie: an asiatic type has slanted eyes). I was shocked that this content was being taught in this manner, by relatively progressive-thinking swiss teachers, whom I totally respect.

To me the problem is about labels, which are used to make someone an "other" (ie. not an "us") and therefore, outside my circle of compassion, and the hurtfulness of over-generalizations.
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Re: Should the word "Näggr" be used in Swiss German?

The genius of Tim Minchin on prejudice.....

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Re: Should the word "Näggr" be used in Swiss German?

This brand of racism (and/or stupidity?) alive and well in Volketswil, ZH, by a very busy street. Interesting that they used the High German word and not the Swiss variant.
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This brand of racism (and/or stupidity?) alive and well in Volketswil, ZH, by a very busy street. Interesting that they used the High German word and not the Swiss variant.
I think the only place you won't find racism is where there is only one race of people living together; then they'll find some other "...ism" to discriminate from each other, anyway.
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Re: Should the word "Näggr" be used in Swiss German?

I think the matter in question has really been discussed through and through. Flojo's last post says of the result of her husband's action. And the all too accurate summing up post from Sandgrounder will do nicely as a closure.
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