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Old 25.07.2011, 16:07
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Vegetarian cruelty is no joke, have you seen the conditions that Runner Beans are kept in ???
Sod the runner beans, what about the poor bloody asparagus?
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Old 25.07.2011, 16:10
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Sod the runner beans, what about the poor bloody asparagus?
You guys kidding right? Do you know the abuse honey melons take throughout their lives? People always grabbing, poking and smelling in the melon's private parts, just to check whether they are ripe? People should go to jail for that!
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and you're annoyed for that ?

I need to give my blood away because I have too much Iron in it. I'm around my 25th bleedings now and i will have to do it, less often I hope, all my life.

And all that good blood is destroyed, because of the Iron. Even now, when they are missing blood. (and I'm perfectly healthy, just this Iron problem)
How annoying is this?! And I had such a low iron-in-the-blood count, my GP was surprised I was alive. Was forced to swallow iron pills with the morning citrus juice. Now looking longingly at the iron on the board.

P.S. Is there such a thing as a partial blood exchange, you think?! Blood group A, by the way. ;-)
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Old 25.07.2011, 16:13
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How annoying is this?! And I had such a low iron-in-the-blood count, my GP was surprised I was alive. Was forced to swallow iron pills with the morning citrus juice. Now looking longingly at the iron on the board.


...... he strikes again

Sapping EF members for his own personal "Iron" gain
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Old 25.07.2011, 16:26
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Re: Bloody annoying...

Heaven forbid I'd ever have to have any of your lot's blood in my system....!

But thanks so much for your kind consideration and support of the Swiss peoples, if we can't accept foreign blood, we'll just bleed you dry in our retail outlets and convenience stores. Thanks for dropping on by.
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Old 25.07.2011, 16:48
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...... he strikes again

Sapping EF members for his own personal "Iron" gain

Iron is the new currency for reputation on EF.


Get with the programme.
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:06
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Heaven forbid I'd ever have to have any of your lot's blood in my system....!

But thanks so much for your kind consideration and support of the Swiss peoples, if we can't accept foreign blood, we'll just bleed you dry in our retail outlets and convenience stores. Thanks for dropping on by.

I could just imagine the blood back in CH with "Herkunft des Bluts" stickers on each bag so you KNOW which country your blood is coming from :P

(sorry if the german sucks, I don't do high-german :P )
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:10
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Re: Bloody annoying... [British blood donor offer refused due to CJD risk]

i know guys who were in the uk who have donated blood here. maybe because he had a non-british passport, they didn't notice?
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:23
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The thing is that for diseases caused by viruses and bacteria you can test for them, for prion diseases there is no standardized testing and I am pretty sure the incubation period is very long...
You are right, one thing is research, another one is donation for the red cross
Prions aren't even really alive, so they are pretty much indestructible. My wife tells me that they can't even be reliably destroyed (denatured) by burning.

As far as I am concerned, the problem is the complete misunderstanding and political fallout, from the Mad Cow Disease problem. Which CJD is similar to but not the same as.
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:27
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i know guys who were in the uk who have donated blood here. maybe because he had a non-british passport, they didn't notice?
There's a standard questionnaire that the prospective donor is required to fill out, preferably truthfully, and one of the questions is whether you lived in the UK for a certain amount of time between certain dates -- irrespective of nationality.
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:27
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Re: Bloody annoying... [British blood donor offer refused due to CJD risk]

I was wondering - and have wondered - the same thing.

If I ever go and visit a doctor I'll put it on the list of things I want to ask. Surely a quick blood test - and a certificate to say your "clean" should do the trick
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:39
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Re: Bloody annoying... [British blood donor offer refused due to CJD risk]

My blood is too good for them anyway
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:43
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wow. Interesting though. The US considers all of Europe to be infected with Creuzfeld-Jakobson disease / Mad Cow Disease. I believe the rules in the US are even if you've eaten beef anywhere in Europe that you can't donate blood.

edit: I just checked... here's the rule.
The same thing happened to me in the US some 6-7 years ago. I wanted to donate blood and was refused just because I lived in Europe before.
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:53
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i know guys who were in the uk who have donated blood here. maybe because he had a non-british passport, they didn't notice?
Maybe the guys you know have seen more than 3 weeks of sun per year and have a good set of teeth; you'd never know they were Brits in that case
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Old 25.07.2011, 17:57
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The same thing happens when one put the cross in the section "gay". Your blood goes into the sewage system. I guess they take statistics very, very seriously. Mind you, red cross is very open about it, they dont hang out a big board "Gays s0d 0ff", but it comes quite close to it. (*insert fatalistic smiley here*).
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:02
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Re: Bloody annoying... [British blood donor offer refused due to CJD risk]

Frustrating,I know.

It amuses me to tell them that virtually everyone in Britain is eligible to give blood.

Maybe you could give blood the next time that you're home.
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:05
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Re: Bloody annoying... [British blood donor offer refused due to CJD risk]

My sons have been banned from giving blood although they've never lived in England. Apparently all those dutiful trips home to visit the grandparents add up to enough over the years to put them on the 'black spot' list.
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:07
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It amuses me to tell them that virtually everyone in Britain is eligible to give blood.
Read that: MSM (gay sex) blood donor controversy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSM_blo...or_controversy
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:14
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Prions aren't even really alive, so they are pretty much indestructible. My wife tells me that they can't even be reliably destroyed (denatured) by burning.

As far as I am concerned, the problem is the complete misunderstanding and political fallout, from the Mad Cow Disease problem. Which CJD is similar to but not the same as.
They're not alive at all, prions are molecules, basically misfolded proteins. The fatal thing is that they serve as nucleation points: they force properly folded (functional) proteins to misfold as well. This leads to a chain reaction where more and more of this misfolding occurs, cells die and the brain degenerates.

There was a blood test published by a research group in 2005 but it's not yet on the market. Biopsies of the tonsils or the spleen are used for diagnosis I think.
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Old 25.07.2011, 18:17
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Re: Bloody annoying... [British blood donor offer refused due to CJD risk]

I've been smuggling blood through customs for many years now and I've never been caught yet........

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They're not alive at all, prions are molecules, basically misfolded proteins. The fatal thing is that they serve as nucleation points: they force properly folded (functional) proteins to misfold as well. This leads to a chain reaction where more and more of this misfolding occurs, cells die and the brain degenerates.

There was a blood test published by a research group in 2005 but it's not yet on the market. Biopsies of the tonsils or the spleen are used for diagnosis I think.
I'd have to concur that zymogen clearly knows what she's talking about here. I gave up biology as my first subject.

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