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school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

I've been trying to find something online about Gymnasium-attendance rates by Basel neighborhood, but so far I've been unsuccessful. I heard that some documents exist but have had no luck finding them, searching in German. Of course, I would like to maximize the chances that my child enrolls in a good school, and that might necessitate a move... I'd like some good, solid data beforehand.
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Re: school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

Frankly, if your child has the green light for Gymnasium there is no school to avoid at all cost. Of course, as a teacher, I have my favourite ones too and the one I would decline the job offer from, but my colleagues wouldn't necessarily have the same personal ranking.
As a student, Basel Stadt Gymnasium is really a no problem area on the academic side. The difference is in the student's work ethics, motivation and talents. No doubts that those three main ingredients are present in your child's genes independently of the school it goes to at the end.
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Re: school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

Thank you, Faltrad, that is nice to hear, especially from a teacher!
However, my question was how to know which primary schools were good - I would imagine a measure of that would be what percentage of children attending do end up going to Gymnasium.
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Re: school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

Oh, you are saying primary school now... I have to let others do the talking. But relax, really.
Just a feeling from an insider: isn't this kind of statistics just not available for public? I am pretty sure that I signed something about confidentiality of Matura results... there is probably many other stats that are public in the UK and not here.
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Re: school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

Sorry, now rereading my original post I see that it wasn't at all clear!

From what I hear informally, it seems it's a pretty good place public-schoolwise overall and I'm not worried, it would just be nice to see some stats.
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Re: school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

About a year or two ago there was an article in the Basler Zeitung giving statistics on how many children in the different neighborhoods of Basel Stadt were accepted into gymnasium. Sorry I don't know which issue but maybe you can search their website. The only bit I remember is that the percentage was lower in Kleinbasel (not including Riehen). There were different opinions on the reason for this (e.g., quality of schools vs. number of foreigners).

I called the schools when my daughter started primary school asking for the same info but they acted like I was crazy for even asking and said there are no stats.
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Re: school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

Thank you very much!
I think I found the article, but I can't access it (maybe one has to pay for the archives). I live in Kleinbasel and was wondering how big the differences were; we really like living here, but if the differences in school success are dramatic, we might move sooner rather than later. Our kid is already a foreigner, we'd like to try to minimize other obstacles.
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Re: school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

I think what will mainly matter is the quality of the teachers your child will have, and that is too hard to keep stats on. You can have your child in a school with zero gymnase success and then voila, end up with a sub teacher who will push half of the class into the gymnase system because of the ethics the teacher is doing her/his job. Or you can end up with a class of difficult kids, who are not supposed to go to gymnase at all, and still succeed, just because of the 10th grade deciding they will run a special pilot project of giving some kids more chance than they got before they (or their teachers) blew it in the obligatoire.

I'd actually conctact the person responsible for ecole postobligatoire in your gemeinde and try to get the stats from there. Do not say you are trying to fish out a school that sounds like a good quality. In my experience, it is all about teachers and the attitude kids have. You can tutor your child on your own, prepare for tests together, help your child put together a study group, supervise it, les devoires surveilles, etc. You can also hire a gymnase student for 3x a week tutorial, ask in a local gymnase for the straight A students, or post an ad there, on a message board. I think individual schools will not differ too much on the streaming policy a country has, but some schools might let the good teachers do their magic more than other schools. But nobody would tell you this officially.
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Re: school evaluations Basel-Stadt?

I'm local here and a former student and teacher.
I guess if there are no stats it's because they would be irrelevant about the quality of the school.

The quality of a school here doesn't depend on the number of children sent to the gymnasium. Some secondary schools send large numbers of children to the gymnasium which fail after a year or there is a big drop out rate among them (secondary school not selective enough, too generous with marks), while other secondary schools send only a few and all of them have best marks at the gymnasium. More than that, it's not the purpose of the secondary schools here to send as many children as possible to the gymnasium.
As said here, qualified teachers, a clear and "transparent" structure and school policy can be criteria for quality.
It is also difficult to make schools responsible for failure/success of different children and hence, determin their quality on that.
In Switzerland, rankings and accreditation are matters of tertiary level, that is to say: Universities, ETH, Universities of Applied Sciences....and personnaly I think it's good so.
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