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Old 14.08.2011, 20:24
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If it's a criminal investigation it's a low priority one, the site's been up since November 20, 2009.
if it turns out into a criminal conviction, because the info made parents stay far away from this int. school and therefore negatively influenced the income of the owner of the school, then these families are official criminals and will not be able to travel to other countries anymore and even face problems going back to their own country.

And only because they were whistleblowing trying to warn parents with children at a nursery without a Bewilligung (confirmed by the Gemeinde and from the start of the school for the last eleven years), warning parents with students at Primary and Secondary school jeopardizing the educational future of their children and warning parents with children with special needs that their very vulnarable child does not get the special care they were promised and payed extra for and these children so desperately need.

So before they are criminal convicted they probably will have no choice to have the info taken off the internet
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pls be aware that schools that try flying under the radar could have a reason for that and probably attracts people who do not mind unethical behaviour either
eg it will attract and hire (for a lot less then the usual) teachers that are not native English speakers who will pretend having taught previously at other international or English speaking schools only because they are desperate for a job. I find it unethical to make parents believe they pay for high quality education as in reality they have their kids taught by inexperienced teachers without official qualifications or experience in teaching in English.
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Re: no freedom of information in switzerland

Hi the_clangers,

Just out of curiosity, is your first hand observation from the perspective of a parent or an international school employee?

I ask because I have worked for several international schools in Switzerland and none (that I worked for) set admission of potential students based on their potential impact on academic ranking.

In regards to ranking, I am confused about how these schools would be ranked as there is no common ranking system governing the international schools in Switzerland using different curricula. One can use university acceptances, but in my experience students graduate on to too many vast regions of the world to reasonably rank up all the universities they apply to outside of the US/UK.

You are correct, international schools are businesses indeed. However, having worked for for-profit and not-for-profit international schools, the difference in how the two operate is incredible. The not-for-profit international school I worked for accepted all students provided that any limitation (such as learning, emotional, or medical) could be met by the administration, faculty, and support departments.

Anyhow, I am leading this thread way off course, but felt the need to ask for clarification on your experiences because I am stumped about the situation the OP brings up as I have not heard of it before, and I have been on the Swiss international school circuit for a long time (albeit not at the pre-school/Early Childhood level) and am generally clued in (but I guess not!).

Cheers for any additional insight you can provide,

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Now this statement is true.
I know it for a fact as I was told that any child that is perceived as potentially affecting the academic ranking of an International School will be rejected out of hand. They base the fees they can charge on the academic ranking and the competition is so fierce that they don't feel they can afford to take any chances on children that aren't way above average.

As long as you understand that theses schools are businesses first and the educational aspect comes second you won't be confused or offended.

If your child fits their model then you have a good situation. If not then you have "NO" situation.

This is information that I have observed first hand.

Having said all of that, I wouldn't agree with the "thesis" of the OP. One just has to remember that the law in Switzerland seems to be oriented to protect businesses first. Maybe the direct democracy aspect is a check to balance that.

Don't worry though as many more countries are moving in this direction. After all I just heard a candidate for president in the USA say that corporations are people too.
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pls be aware that schools that try flying under the radar could have a reason for that and probably attracts people who do not mind unethical behaviour either
Eg "uncertified" staff at a nursery.......
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Thanks for the clarification!

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Now this statement is true.
I know it for a fact as I was told that any child that is perceived as potentially affecting the academic ranking of an International School will be rejected out of hand. ...
And I know this statement is not true, as there are definitely some, shall we say, lower performing children in our local international schools. Also, I know some kids with special needs who are getting the support they require.

Of course, it's all paid for.
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Re: no freedom of information in switzerland

My current international school has 10% of the total student population as having learning needs. This is generally consistent with what is found in US public schools.

It is nice to read that some international schools have a nice mix!


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And I know this statement is not true, as there are definitely some, shall we say, lower performing children in our local international schools. Also, I know some kids with special needs who are getting the support they require.

Of course, it's all paid for.
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I just heard a candidate for president in the USA say that corporations are people too.
I don't know the context, but legally they are/can be - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_person (note the differences to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_person)
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Hi thor..
OK, well, if no-one else will do it ... hammerzeit.
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