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Re: [Insect sting] Allergic reaction - Heart failure

Poor you pudy hopefully you will get better, any chance they can give you an epi pen to carry from now on?
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Old 15.08.2011, 20:54
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Re: [Insect sting] Allergic reaction - Heart failure

that is quite an experience. Thank goodness you were in the Bakery and not on the tram. Nevertheless, it says a lot about Swiss society that everyone saw to your well-being.

I'm curious to know if there is any speculation about why this sting was so severe for you. Maybe a higher dose of venom? armpit? I've never been stung in my life. I always avoid those damn things like the plague. But it scares the shit out of me to think what one day might happen.

Nevertheless, glad that you are well, doing good, and that everything turned out alright for you and your child.
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Old 15.08.2011, 21:03
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Yep, have an Epipen, thanks. Thanks for the tip about getting two and changing them regularly as well; I might do that. Does it HAVE to be the right thigh, though? I'm a leftie...
You can even register them on the UK website and they will send a reminder on when you need to change it.

Either thigh is great. They want you to use your dominate hand to inject.

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http://www.epipen.co.uk/patient/how-to-use.html

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As a bit of an aside is this covered under accident insurance?
Yes it resulted from something external, so it's an accident. But the EPI pen might be covered by general health prevention - I'm not sure.
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Yep, have an Epipen, thanks. Thanks for the tip about getting two and changing them regularly as well; I might do that. Does it HAVE to be the right thigh, though? I'm a leftie...
Was trying to figure out why you were talking about your RIGHT thigh. Then I went back and looked at my post.

What I was saying is that you can jab the Epi Pen right through you jeans etc. You do not need to roll up your jeans to inject directly on your skin (since you do not have time in any event). You just take the pen out of the holder, pop the lid then jab it in though the clothes and hit the button to inject the product.

Hope that this is clear.
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Re: [Insect sting] Allergic reaction - Heart failure

Glad you're back ok!

But you didn't mention, did u re-visit the bakery to pay for your daughters "bag of crisps/potato chips"?
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Old 16.08.2011, 14:46
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LOL so true! Though I was stung by a bee at home in New Zealand which affected the local area of skin more adversly than any of the stings I've had from German wasps... At least bees are useful though, huh!

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As a bit of an aside is this covered under accident insurance?
All of it, including emergency pen and meds to carry, was covered by medical insurance for me. I'm pretty well covered I think.

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Yup, same thing happened to my dad when he was driving and a wasp came out of nowhere and stung him. The doctor told him that if he would have not come to the hospital on time, he wouldn't have survived.
It's humbling isn't it? I'm glad your Dad made it through OK too Phew!

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...Nevertheless, it says a lot about Swiss society that everyone saw to your well-being.

I'm curious to know if there is any speculation about why this sting was so severe for you. Maybe a higher dose of venom? armpit? I've never been stung in my life. I always avoid those damn things like the plague.

Nevertheless, glad that you are well, doing good, and that everything turned out alright for you and your child.
Thanks, KeinFränzösisch! Yes, everyone in the shop was very helpful - I was VERY lucky! I'm not sure why this sting in particular was so severe. I've heard that it can happen at any time for no particular reason.

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What I was saying is that you can jab the Epi Pen right through you jeans etc. You do not need to roll up your jeans to inject directly ...
Hope that this is clear.
Yep, that bit was clear from the start... I thought perhaps the right leg was best because you specifically said the right-hand side... It also crossed my mind that one side might be more effective than the other. (Spot the non-med graduate )

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Glad you're back ok!

But you didn't mention, did u re-visit the bakery to pay for your daughters "bag of crisps/potato chips"?
Thanks redEagle Yes, my mission for this morning was to go to the local PYO gardens and get some scented roses, sunflowers and the Coop to buy chocolates to make a big posie. I just got back from dropping it off. I did mention that my daughter had swiped a packet of chips and received a bread roll, but they said not to worry about it. They're such lovely people. So naturally I had to buy a box of choc nut slice and apple strudel as a gesture of gratitude .

It seems this kind of experience is more common than I thought! Amazing how one tiny insect could potentially be lethal to us!

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Old 16.08.2011, 14:54
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Re: [Insect sting] Allergic reaction - Heart failure

Glad you've come through this OK.

The one positive thing is that you can be prepared if you should suffer a repeat sting in future.
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Re: [Insect sting] Allergic reaction - Heart failure

Coudl it be that insect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_predatory_wasp

http://translate.google.com/translat...Vespa_velutina
I read that it was spreading to switzerland...
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Old 16.08.2011, 15:25
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Coudl it be that insect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_predatory_wasp

http://translate.google.com/translat...Vespa_velutina
I read that it was spreading to switzerland...
Thanks for the links. Though to be honest I didn't see what stung me. I only know that there are a lot of german wasps around here at the moment . Hopefully the allergen tests they're running this week will tell me.
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Old 16.08.2011, 21:16
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Re: [Insect sting] Allergic reaction - Heart failure

wow, that sounds scary. glad you went through it ok, hopefully you won't have to deal with anything similar again!

almost 2 years ago while i was perfectly fine at work i started shaking quite intensively. my first thought was to go home, but as i sensed there was something abnormal happening and the hospital it's just next door from the office (and after advice of my colleagues who happen to be doctors) i went to the emergency.

apparently, i was at the first stages of sepsis. an infection that moved to fast and started poisoning my blood. they said that a few hours later and my organs would start to fail. brr...makes you think how fragile everything is and how we really have no idea what tomorrow (or next minute for that matter) brings
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Scary stuff, puddy. Makes you want to stay double-alert when the kids are playing in the garden this time of year.
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almost 2 years ago while i was perfectly fine at work...

apparently, i was at the first stages of sepsis...brr...makes you think how fragile everything is and how we really have no idea what tomorrow (or next minute for that matter) brings
Thanks for the wishes, crimson. That must have been doubly scary, not having had a specific thing to pin it to! Lucky your work colleagues and the hospital were right there for you, too!

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Scary stuff, puddy. Makes you want to stay double-alert when the kids are playing in the garden this time of year.
Absolutely! I asked about this and the nurse said that, because my little one was breastfed for 15 months, she will have better protection. Never-the-less I'll take her to get some allergy tests done.

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...and if the OP wasn't feeling lucky enough already.

A woman has died of a cardiac arrest after being stung by wasps in Essex.
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...and if the OP wasn't feeling lucky enough already.

A woman has died of a cardiac arrest after being stung by wasps in Essex.
Mental note: Don't prod the nest

Shame the poor old lady had to be the victim ... It didn't say if the elderly couple prodded it or it was pre-prodded. It was really bad luck if someone else had prodded it!

Enjoy the weather fellow EFers... and yet another reminder: watch out for those wasps! They're really out in force today

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Mental note: Don't prod the nest

Shame the poor old lady had to be the victim ... It didn't say if the elderly couple prodded it or it was pre-prodded. It was really bad luck if someone else had prodded it!

Enjoy the weather fellow EFers... and yet another reminder: watch out for those wasps! They're really out in force today

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The couple just happened to be passing the house when the nest was disturbed
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A suggestion off the WRS website from a Swiss wasp exterminator if you get stung by a wasp.

Take a small spoon and heat it up with a lighter or under hot water and apply it to the site of the sting. It will neutralize the venom immediately.

The advice is at the end of the audio.

Link. http://worldradio.ch/wrs/news/switze...ps.shtml?26148

It seems that this year is particularly bad since the winter was so mild.
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Classic anaphylactic shock, it must have been awful! As you get older your susceptibility and the effects of allergic reactions increases, it is unlikely that it was a more venomous wasp, it is more probable that your body has become more susceptible.
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Thanks for the links. Though to be honest I didn't see what stung me. I only know that there are a lot of german wasps around here at the moment . Hopefully the allergen tests they're running this week will tell me.
So what where the tests results?


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Coudl it be that insect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_predatory_wasp

http://translate.google.com/translat...Vespa_velutina
I read that it was spreading to switzerland...
Jeez that is one badass looking MOFO oh How I HATE, HATE, HATE these stinging, biting, screw up my entire day bug thingys.
Wasps are very agressive and there are millions of the buggers at this time of the year and it will get worse when the weather
starts to turn nasty in a few weeks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt_Sting_Pain_Index
Just so that you know what to expect.

Not long back I was on the bike just over in France, taking the small roads, I was hit by what must have been a hornet, it dinged off my visor
and fell between my jeans and the bikes petrol tank. I have never been of a bike as fast as on that day, thankfully the thing was facing the other way, however it does tend to double your Vocabulary.
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