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I need to loose some weight and I want to do it properly. I was thinking about dietitian/nutritionist (are they the same here in Switzerland?) but apparently either my German skills are not good enough or I can't use Google properly -- I'm not able to find anyone. I don't want any pills or injections, I just want somebody (a doctor preferably) to go through my daily nutrition routine, discuss it, and probably create a whole new diet for me (well, I'm a chocolate addict ;P).

Do you have any experience in this area? Could you recommend me someone?
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Old 24.08.2011, 22:31
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Re: Dietitian in the Zurich area

I don't mean to be flippant, but actually what do you need from a doctor? Eat lots of non-starchy veg, pulses, chicken, fish, or other protein, fruit and the occasional controlled nibble of chocolate for a treat. And 30 minutes light-medium exercise 3-4 times a week. Where's the secret knowledge in this? Surely everyone knows this ? It's actually DOING IT that's hard, and I surely know that too....
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First of all, I know it's simple, you know it, thousands of fat people know it and what? Nothing, they still try another and another diet and/or they search for help, usually because they need some rules they can obey, because their strong will doesn't exist. That's my case. And I want a *professional* help, to balance a good diet for me. I don't want to make a research in books and internet. I want a professional help, cause I don't want to hurt myself. Period.

Second of all, thanks for writing between lines I'm a lazy cow. Seriously, did you have to write all of this? I asked if anybody knows a doctor, not for opinions about diets and a healthy lifestyle. I'm pretty sensitive about this topic and thanks to you the first thing after I read your post was bursting into tears.
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First of all, I know it's simple, you know it, thousands of fat people know it and what? Nothing, they still try another and another diet and/or they search for help, usually because they need some rules they can obey, because their strong will doesn't exist. That's my case. And I want a *professional* help, to balance a good diet for me. I don't want to make a research in books and internet. I want a professional help, cause I don't want to hurt myself. Period.

Second of all, thanks for writing between lines I'm a lazy cow. Seriously, did you have to write all of this? I asked if anybody knows a doctor, not for opinions about diets and a healthy lifestyle. I'm pretty sensitive about this topic and thanks to you the first thing after I read your post was bursting into tears.
I don't think the previous poster was trying to write anything in between the lines - just asking why you would want to hire a nutritionist for something that is fairly common sense, but hard to execute.

Anyways. Here's a useful thread: Looking for a nutritionist...
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I don't think the previous poster was trying to write anything in between the lines - just asking why you would want to hire a nutritionist for something that is fairly common sense, but hard to execute.

Anyways. Here's a useful thread: Looking for a nutritionist...
I know, I know, but as I wrote, I'm oversensitive about this. Everybody seem to know better, my family, friends, all full of good advises. Sorry if I overreact.

Anyway, I've seen that thread. The search engine at http://www.svde-asdd.ch/ doesn't work .
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Anyway, I've seen that thread. The search engine at http://www.svde-asdd.ch/ doesn't work .
Ah, I see - maybe send an email to what's listed (service@svde-asdd.ch). I'm betting they don't even know it's broken. They definitely seem like the best starting point unless someone has a personal recommendation or your GP has a recommendation.

I'm a good chunk overweight, so I understand Perhaps follow the Swiss diet: smoke cigarettes, can't afford food, walk briskly everywhere?
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Re: Dietitian in the Zurich area

Have you tried going to your normal doctor for a referral - or even just to ask if they have a directory of dietitians/nutrionists?

I mananged to lose weight a few years ago (and keep it off) after a lifetime of being 'chubby'. I did it on my own as I didn't have any other health issues but if you have any concerns you should get professional advice.

In the meantime however I would recommend the book 'Superfoods' by Steven Pratt. It is NOT a diet - its a bit of a cliche now but it is a way of life plan. What I liked about it is that there are no strange fads and it doesn't focus on what you shouldn't do or shouldn't eat but it focuses on simple foods that actually improve your health. It really made me want to eat these foods and by fitting these healthy foods into my daily diet - I didn't have room for the junk.

Being more fit and healthy is such an amazing feeling - please go for it!! Good luck!
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Have you tried going to your normal doctor for a referral - or even just to ask if they have a directory of dietitians/nutrionists?

I mananged to lose weight a few years ago (and keep it off) after a lifetime of being 'chubby'. I did it on my own as I didn't have any other health issues but if you have any concerns you should get professional advice.

In the meantime however I would recommend the book 'Superfoods' by Steven Pratt. It is NOT a diet - its a bit of a cliche now but it is a way of life plan. What I liked about it is that there are no strange fads and it doesn't focus on what you shouldn't do or shouldn't eat but it focuses on simple foods that actually improve your health. It really made me want to eat these foods and by fitting these healthy foods into my daily diet - I didn't have room for the junk.

Being more fit and healthy is such an amazing feeling - please go for it!! Good luck!
Just to clarify 'Dietitian' and 'nutritionist' is not the same thing. The term 'Dietitian' is medically registered term; you must be qualified and certified by the British (or American) Dietetics association, generally through post graduate diploma and NHS / registered health authority accreditation and assessment. The term 'dietitian' is legally protected, a nutritionist is unregistered and un-assessed, and basically anybody can call themselves a nutritionist.
A dietitian is generally involved in a medical capacity assessing the impact and dietary needs of ill people, diet being a major factor in the well being and success of renal dialysis patients and other chronically ill people.

Unless you have a chronic illness I doubt you will be referred to a dietitian.

The best medical advice any dietitian would give a sedentary, normally well, and non-clinically obese individual is to eat a healthy balanced diet with your daily required fruit and vegetable intake, decrease your intake daily by about 500 calories, or increase athletic pursuits accordingly, and you will lose weight.
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Re: Dietitian in the Zurich area

[QUOTE=heksita;1313845]Hi,

I need to loose some weight and I want to do it properly. I was thinking about dietitian/nutritionist (are they the same here in Switzerland?) but apparently either my German skills are not good enough or I can't use Google properly -- I'm not able to find anyone. I don't want any pills or injections, I just want somebody (a doctor preferably) to go through my daily nutrition routine, discuss it, and probably create a whole new diet for me (well, I'm a chocolate addict ;P).

Do you have any experience in this area? Could you recommend me someone?[/QUOTE

I so much want to loose some weight myself. I tried to eat very healthy and mainly vegitables and fruits .I tried to drink a lot of water and green tee. However i also like chocolates and pizza , pasta, not recommende for a diet ( I eat them no more than once per week) . I also restricted the sugar I do not use it anymore I use honey instead. If you feel like eating chocolates, it is allowed but with min 80% cacoa . Now sport is also important - you have to walk, cycle , swim or whatever you enjoy.
BTW I am no satisfied with the way I am progressing at the moment as the effect is not visible so far. hmm have to try harder....
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It's not rocket science.

http://www.bda.uk.com/foodfacts/index.html
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I know a couple of people who have used ParamediForm and have been happy with the approach and the results.
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I so much want to loose some weight myself. I tried to eat very healthy and mainly vegitables and fruits .I tried to drink a lot of water and green tee. However i also like chocolates and pizza , pasta, not recommende for a diet ( I eat them no more than once per week) . I also restricted the sugar I do not use it anymore I use honey instead. If you feel like eating chocolates, it is allowed but with min 80% cacoa . Now sport is also important - you have to walk, cycle , swim or whatever you enjoy.
BTW I am no satisfied with the way I am progressing at the moment as the effect is not visible so far. hmm have to try harder....
A teaspoon of honey has 50% more calories than a teaspoon of sugar.
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A teaspoon of honey has 50% more calories than a teaspoon of sugar.
But since honey is sweeter than sugar, you will probably use less of it + honey probably has other health benefits which sugar does not.

Anyhow, some people make dieting sound simple but the truth is that many people do not know what is good for them and what is not, and there are lots of myths going around. This sugar vs honey discussion is just a small example. A nutritionist can help you create a balanced diet, and support you to make smarter choices. Therefore I believe it is a good idea to find professional help if you seriously want to lose weight (I guess we're not talking christmas pounds here...).

(I have never had any problems with my weight and can not recommend any experts in Switzerland, but my mother is a nutritionist and when I grew up she was keen to share her knowledge...)
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Re: Dietitian in the Zurich area

I was told to have a 'cheat' meal a week when you can have what you like - so it stops the craving - it works - in the end you are not bothered about the 'cheat' meal anymore and just stick with the healthy option!
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Hi,

I need to loose some weight and I want to do it properly. I was thinking about dietitian/nutritionist (are they the same here in Switzerland?) but apparently either my German skills are not good enough or I can't use Google properly -- I'm not able to find anyone. I don't want any pills or injections, I just want somebody (a doctor preferably) to go through my daily nutrition routine, discuss it, and probably create a whole new diet for me (well, I'm a chocolate addict ;P).

Do you have any experience in this area? Could you recommend me someone?
Can't recommend anyone (never used one), but Holmes Place at SeePark (Horgen) has a British nutritionist there. It's expensive at 150.- an hour though and no, you don't need to be a member of the gym as far as I know.
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Thanks for all your tips. I'll see how this is going to work .
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