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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

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Oh my, how things have changed since I was at school.

I remember falling off a climing frame at the school and splitting my head open. A teacher then had to take me to hospital where I received 12 stiches for my injury. I was then taken back and had to do all of the afternoons lessons, then the same teacher called my mother to pick me up. The first thing I recieved from my mother was a clip round the ear for being a prat, and subsequently 200 lines from the teacher which stated "I must not waste teacher's time"

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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

I would also follow up on it.

It's not really important that the school thinks the wound does not warrant to have things explained to the parent. What is important how you feel about the communication between somebody who supervised your child at the moment of accident and you. If you are ok with it, forget it. If you think you did not receive sufficient report, I would go to the director, tell him you saw a pediatrician and you wish to know how the accident happened and how your daughter was taken care of.

In my experience, there is an official procedure prescribed in situations like these, it's pretty rigid, and the procedure was not followed. (we had an accident between the teacher and my kiddo, we asked about it, they had a meeting, they came to conclusion that was communicated to us, it was all very formal and it was obvious there is an algorithm for scenarios like these, I was not happy in terms of the missing report on what actually happened, they only pointed out how the "blame" got sorted, which I was not interested in at all. Next time, I am sure they will rush with explaining to the folks what actually happens at the time of the accidents).

So, I wouldn't be complacent, since it seems you were supposed to get info and didn't get it. I would be pretty peeved if my child came home with some hear injury without the teacher contacting me with a run down on what happened. It's not about anger or emotions, or blame, just mere information and transparency. Chances also are, the teacher wants to inform, just waits for you to contact first, they are busy, too.

Who knows, some symptoms take longer to show up (I certainly hope it's not your case), but knowing what happens with your kiddo in that case puts one's mind at ease, at least a bit.

Next time your child comes home with some obvious sign of injury, call her teacher asap, ask her for tel. number of the swimming guard who took care of it, you can always find a friend or neighbor who will speak for you to him, etc.
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Old 31.08.2011, 21:01
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

I'm very surprised that the school didn't get in touch. They rang us from Kindergarten when one of ours ran into another child and knocked a front tooth askew (she was the only kid in the kindergarten who already had her second teeth - Sod's Law) and the same proceedure, in a different canton, when she broke her nose at school.

I'd have thought they would have contacted a child's parents if only to cover themselves if anything went REALLY wrong later. (The school insurance paid in both above cases by the way).
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

I expect the school would have mentioned something if they felt it was serious, but I understand how you feel.

I would definitely raise it with the school tomorrow - that way you will at least understand how they handle injuries at the school - maybe take a neighbour to help you with translation...?
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

I agree the school should have told you but applaud the fact that you have the confidence to monitor your child and decide further action without running screaming to the nearest A & E department!
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Old 31.08.2011, 21:56
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Oh my, how things have changed since I was at school.

I remember falling off a climing frame at the school and splitting my head open. A teacher then had to take me to hospital where I received 12 stiches for my injury. I was then taken back and had to do all of the afternoons lessons, then the same teacher called my mother to pick me up. The first thing I recieved from my mother was a clip round the ear for being a prat, and then subsequently 200 lines from the teacher which stated "I must not waste teacher's time"

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...but nevertheless, you were given medical attention and your mother was informed.
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...but nevertheless, you were given medical attention and your mother was informed.
Head injury...hmmm, it's all starting to make sense now...
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

I got a phone call during last winter. It was from the school nurse, explaining that she had my son in her office, because he'd received a head injury - she moved swiftly onto explaining that he was fine, not to panic - and had been brought to her for treatment by his friends.

She said again it was probably nothing, but thought it best if he was collected and taken home to rest for the afternoon, if that was convenient and there was someone to look after him.

Turns out he'd been in a snowball fight, and got an ice ball on his forehead, resulting in a large lump. He WAS fine, was chatting excitedly about it one minute, then remembering the next to be subdued to guarantee the afternoon off , no blood or signs of concussion, headaches, etc.

This to me was exactly right. No panic but not ignoring the event, notify the parent, have him taken home (or keep him in her room if no-one available). I was completely happy with the approach.

Earlier that year, he'd come home with cotton stuffed up his nostril, because he got a bad nosebleed in class (hay fever thing). His teacher had taken care of that, and he came home at the usual time. He's also turned up with knees that have been creamed and plastered/ Band-Aided after falls. This is of course fine, but head injury resulting in a large lump or blood? No, I'd want to know about that straight away.
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

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She did say that she had been taken to see someone at the pool - she referred to them as a 'teacher' but could have been the lifeguard - most indignant that they made her stand in a cold shower to clean the blood off her hair before they put whatever the stuff was on.
Good grief! That is no way to be dealing with a bleeding wound. - Not from the point of view of controlling/stopping the bleeding and administering first aid, nor on the procedure that should be used for dealing with blood.
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

Totally agree that school should have informed you re: this. Having worked on a neurosurgical unit so called sillly head injuries Can be very serious...thank goodness your daughter was fine
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Unbelievable.

All head blood injuries should involve a checkup/follow up at the hospital surely ?
Head injuries tend to bleed a lot, which can make them look more serious than they are, but that's up to a medical professional to decide methinks.

I think the school owes you an explanation.
Not necessarily, unless the individual has been K.O.ed or seriously concussed observation over the next 48 hours in a normal environment is the only thing that can be done, no point wasting the hospitals time.
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Not necessarily, unless the individual has been K.O.ed or seriously concussed observation over the next 48 hours in a normal environment is the only thing that can be done, no point wasting the hospitals time.
Nah, disagree with this. Natasha Richardson displayed no signs of injury after her ski accident then died the next day from a head injury.

If you are a parent and don't witness the bang on the head, I would say to assume it's worse than it is. I'd rather waste the time of a doctor for 20 mins than run the risk of complications arising because I assume it's not a serious case.
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

So, Claire, how's your daughter & what did the school have to say?
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

So, daughter is fine - had a bit of a lump on her head for a couple of days and, after some investigation, we found a scab about 2 cm long but no major gaping wounds!

We wrote to her teacher asking for an explanation of how the injury occured and what treatment had been given (he has asked for all communication from us to be in writing as he is not comfortable speaking English) - and his response was:

"Usually we do not inform parents of 'small' injuries - we only inform when a doctor is needed. Yesterday F**** slipped on the wet ground at the swimming pool, she should not be walking on the wet ground at the pool. It is dangerous when the ground is wet and F***** should be more careful, if she is not more careful she will get more injuries from time to time. I hope you will understand that we will not inform you of injuries in the future."

In response I have written a further note confirming that 'whilst we are aware that communication of minor injuries is not a normal procedure at school we would like to be informed when a head injury of any description is involved' but at the moment we are a unsure as to what else to do or whether to do anything at all. We have been told by several Swiss parents whose children have previously had this teacher that, unless an issue is really a life or death one, it is best not to cross him. He has, in the past, made life really difficult for Swiss (ie not just 'foreign') children whose parents decided to confront him over some fairly minor issues. We have this teacher for the next 2 years so can't afford to get in his bad books at this early stage in her school life!

I guess for the moment we should just be thankful that the injury wasn't any more serious than it was and 'keep our heads down' for a while - we have already caused him a 'problem' (his words not ours) by asking for a translator to be present at the first Parents Information Evening when he would be laying out his plans for the year and explaining how he teaches - so quite an important meeting for first time parents at the school.
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

Oh dear. That's quite pathetic on behalf of the teacher. If the head feels the same way... I don't think its a good impression that the school gives.

It's not hard to communicate and it goes a long way.
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Yesterday F**** slipped on the wet ground at the swimming pool, she should not be walking on the wet ground at the pool. It is dangerous when the ground is wet and F***** should be more careful,
Well! Your daughter may be a touch careless, but there's no need to call her a F*****
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

It's a stroke of luck that he has requested everything in writing because that gives you ready-made evidence if he acts like a knob.

I think he's out of order and seems to have been quite successful at creating an air of fear to prevent parents interfering with his substandard methods.

Take it a bit higher, if you can but it's understandable if you don't want to rock the boat so early in your daughter's time at the school-
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OMG sue the school for bringing your child to a pool where water might be!

On a serious note, your child is in the care of a teacher and no matter what the child might do, right or wrong, your child is in the care of that teacher.

But write back stating all that you'd like in future is to be notified immediately if your child has an injury like that.

Language inability on both sides is no F****** excuse.
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Well! Your daughter may be a touch careless, but there's no need to call her a F*****
Tee Hee - yes she can be a bit of a F***** sometimes and I realised what it looked like when I re-read the post! Thankfully the Teacher wasn't that rude - it was just me being unsure as to whether to 'name and shame' the poor child in public! Guess I will have to put the matter straight now otherwise she will be referred to as F***** forever - her name is actually Freya.
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Re: Head Injury received whilst at School

Ah, I was guessing Fiona.

I think yould should forward/take the latter to the head and see what they think of it. I know sometimes that people who are not the best with English can come across as more rude than they intend, but honestly, I think that teacher is a bit of an arse.
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