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Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

Our new apartment is on the 2nd floor, equipped with big windowns. These windows' bottom are only 60cm to the floor, yes, quite low. Our building is old, so each of these windows can only be opened in one way. There is no option to just half open it in a slope. The problem is our daughter is growing fast. It is TERRIBLE if she would someday climb over it while it is open. We can NOT put eyes on her every minute.

Did anyone have the same experience. If so, pls share with us of your solution. Or maybe anyone have an advice on it. Whichever will be highly appreciated.
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Old 15.09.2011, 18:06
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

Dont open the windows?

Ok seriously. How about some iron mesh? It could look a bit ugly but its strong. Or maybe some netting so that the opening is closed.
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

Ikea stock these specifically for windows.

http://www.ikea.com/ch/de/catalog/products/30098967

And all these other security measures:

http://www.ikea.com/ch/de/catalog/ca..._ikea/16249-2/
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

60 cm is so incredibly low, I wonder how that can even be legal. It is dangerous even for adults. Sorry I don't know the legal background, but I think basic safety is to be provided by the owner, not by the tenant. If your German is not abysmally bad, you might consult the Zurich branch of the Mieterschutz Schweiz.

They run what they call a Helpline, which is open also for non-members. The Website is in German only, but you may find someone who can do it for you if you don't trust your language skills. The annual membership fee is CHF 95.00, which may be money well invested if need be.
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60 cm is so incredibly low, I wonder how that can even be legal.
Pretty normal in old houses with "tall" windows. My window sills are at exactly 60 cm from the floor, so maybe there is (or was in the past) some kind of standard there.

I am 5 floors above ground level on one side of my flat, which makes cleaning the windows a bit of an ordeal - especially the top bit for which I need to stand on a chair... vertigo guaranteed!
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

I've had tall window that were low to the ground but they had a decorative (well, and functional!) metal rail outside. Do your window not have this? If not, I'm surprise they rented it to a family with small children.
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

is the window big enough for a baby gate fitted inside the window? if so may be try that.. it is unsightly but that will totally block the lower half of the window..
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

Thank you all above. We are thinking of taking one from all kinds of products(window bar security)plus IKEA's small stuff recommended by Goshiki. Hope it will work. Wish you all a nice night!
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

Is this a stupid question? Are you able to tie the windows closed with some string?
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

I unscrewed the handles off all windows, then moved out when the kids learnt how to use screwdrivers. My advice is number the handles/windows, selotape the screws to the handles. In old houses things need to go back exactly, otherwise apparently identical handles don't cover the old paint exactly.
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Any chance you can move soon? What a shame you didn't notice this before moving in. I'd be a nervous wreck with young kids- and I just can't stand closed windows. Talk to the owner/agent about fitting guards asap.
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Re: Help:apt windows' bottom 60cm to the floor

Railing gates. They're about 1 meter high and they can be bought at babycare

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Is this a stupid question? Are you able to tie the windows closed with some string?
Please don't due to other risks.
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Railing gates. They're about 1 meter high and they can be bought at babycare
But I wonder if this would hold up in the window if the child were to climb up on it and lean out the window? Anyone know? Best to get something installed. I'd call the regie and see if they do it.
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But I wonder if this would hold up in the window if the child were to climb up on it and lean out the window? Anyone know? Best to get something installed. I'd call the regie and see if they do it.
Better to replace the window handles with lockable ones.

My daughter (almost 2 and very tall for her age) pushed over an ikea gate and fell on top of it on the way to bed tonight. Thankfully, her fingers didn't end up underneath it but she got a bump on her head.
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But I wonder if this would hold up in the window if the child were to climb up on it and lean out the window? Anyone know? Best to get something installed. I'd call the regie and see if they do it.
If they are those pressure mounted ones, then I would not take the risk. We got gates screwed into the wall at the top of our stairs because we were not convinced about the robustness of the pressure mounted gate I had initially bought. They become rather flexible the wider the gap that is being spanned.

But I would be surprised if a small child could climb onto the top of such a gate .. but of course they could drag their little play table or chair over to give it a go (speaking again from personal experience ...)
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If they are those pressure mounted ones, then I would not take the risk. We got gates screwed into the wall at the top of our stairs because we were not convinced about the robustness of the pressure mounted gate I had initially bought. They become rather flexible the wider the gap that is being spanned.

But I would be surprised if a small child could climb onto the top of such a gate .. but of course they could drag their little play table or chair over to give it a go (speaking again from personal experience ...)
Oh boy! No kids for me then!
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