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I'm planning to divorce from a swiss woman. Please I need to stop this. We are married since 5 1/2 years without kids. I have C bewilligung since February. Thanks to god the divorce can be initiate by mutual agreement. Do I need a lawyer? My finacial situation is horrible, nonetheless I don't want anything from the house, no furniture, no TV, no a spoon, nothing. I just want to do it at the easiest way possible. She can take it all. I can sign it, I don't want nothing material from this person and from nobody, neither from the swiss state. I don't want money from her, no pension, nothing, I just want to take this person out of my life for ever. I just want peace.

Question: Will the authorities kick me out when I divorce?

My plan is to move to another kanton, start again, and if I still feel as living in a wax bodies museum as I do now then get out of this land. But I would like to take the chance to try improve my life once more time. Without an inspector lady. Without argues, just, alone, free, and independent.

Question: I have to pay for it? If yes, any idea about costs?

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Re: Divorce Advise

Your nationality would help give you sensible answers...
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Ah???

I don't dig it. What my nationality have to do with it?
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I don't dig it. What my nationality have to do with it?
You ask if you will be kicked out. Your nationality will be important, but if you don't realise this you'd better start packing - unless you intend leaving your clothes to your wife too...
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Re: Divorce Advise

If you have a C permit you will not be asked to leave the country. Divorces can go quite quickly if both parties agree on everything. Does your wife know you want a divorce?
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I don't dig it. What my nationality have to do with it?
Good for you! Give her everything and wash your hands of it. I did the same thing with my first frau. Left her back in Sydney with all the shit she could store in her parents garage.

Probably wont cost more that CHF1,500. Figure 300 an hour for five hours of work.

Nationality would help because if you are an American, see you later. If you are an EU citizen then you can re-apply for your C permit. But if you have been married to her for so long then why not get your Swiss citizenship? That makes no sense that you dont have it. You have to of been with a Swiss spouse for 5 years to qualify.
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If you have a C permit you will not be asked to leave the country. Divorces can go quite quickly if both parties agree on everything. Does your wife know you want a divorce?
Yes, she does. She doesn't want, but she accept that. Thanks for reply with education and respect.
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Good for you! Give her everything and wash your hands of it. I did the same thing with my first frau. Left her back in Sydney with all the shit she could store in her parents garage.

Probably wont cost more that CHF1,500. Figure 300 an hour for five hours of work.

Nationality would help because if you are an American, see you later. If you are an EU citizen then you can re-apply for your C permit. But if you have been married to her for so long then why not get your Swiss citizenship? That makes no sense that you dont have it. You have to of been with a Swiss spouse for 5 years to qualify.
Thanks Zuger.

C permit is not as citizenship?
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My OH did apply for Swiss citizenship- about 40 years after we'd been married. They interviewed me to ensure that we have no intention of divorcing! Applying for citizenship could take up to 18months /2 years even- and if there is any sign of divorce, will not be given. Yes, nationality counts if you want to be able to stay here.

Not the first time I come across somebody who wants nothing at all - apart from the right to stay in CH (as happened to 2 Swiss friends recently, 1 m one f.).
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Good for you! Give her everything and wash your hands of it. I did the same thing with my first frau. Left her back in Sydney with all the shit she could store in her parents garage.

Probably wont cost more that CHF1,500. Figure 300 an hour for five hours of work.

Nationality would help because if you are an American, see you later. If you are an EU citizen then you can re-apply for your C permit. But if you have been married to her for so long then why not get your Swiss citizenship? That makes no sense that you dont have it. You have to of been with a Swiss spouse for 5 years to qualify.
I see a few people are saying that nationality makes a difference for a C permit to be withdrawn after a divorce. I was under the impression that this is not true. And why would you say they will necessarily kick out an American with a C permit?

Not everyone wants to apply for Swiss citizenship (like me for example) and others may lose there original nationality if they do.
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Thanks Zuger.

C permit is not as citizenship?
C-permit allows you to live in Switzerland as though you are a citizen, but you dont get a passport or the right to vote etc. If you have been married to her for 5 years and you have spent the last 12 month in Switzerland then you should be entitled to apply for citizenship (unless the rules have changed?????).
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I see a few people are saying that nationality makes a difference for a C permit to be withdrawn after a divorce. I was under the impression that this is not true. And why would you say they will necessarily kick out an American with a C permit?

Not everyone wants to apply for Swiss citizenship (like me for example) and others may lose there original nationality if they do.
If you have a c-permit and an employer, perhaps. But I know of a young guy from NZ who had to go back after his divorce because his B-permit expired and he didnt have a job.
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Re: Divorce Advise

Thanks to everyone for your comments. I appreciate that.

I don't want to get out because I'm not a car, I'm a person. I just want to live in peace, not with a police inside my door. That's all.

I do not blame the country, I.m not interested in passport or money as many others. I just want my job, my place and to have a natural life. I cannot go anywhere without troubles, or have female friends.

I do not want to go at the moment because I like the nature here, and this stable system. That's all. Maybe I'm wrong and perhaps is better to go...

I'm coming distress now...
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Re: Divorce Advise

A B permit is not the same as a C permit. B's are by design temporary resident permits where C's are permanent. They only have an administrative expiration.

Anyway, this is what I found:

http://www.binational.ch/en/fragen/trennung.html
Important aspects for binational couples
Since 1 January 2008, the new Aliens Act has prescribed the new conditions for a residence permit beyond divorce. After dissolution of the marriage, the right to an extension of the residence permit will reamin in effect if the marriage has lasted at least three years and a successful integration exists, or if significant personal reasons make continued residence in Switzerland necessary (Art 50 AuG) an see the section "Separation" above.
The extension of a residence permit may be denied in cases of abuse of law (Art. 51 AuG).
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there should be no kicking out.
everything else will cost and be painful but keep your chin up!

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A B permit is not the same as a C permit. B's are by design temporary resident permits where C's are permanent. They only have an administrative expiration.

Anyway, this is what I found:

http://www.binational.ch/en/fragen/trennung.html
Important aspects for binational couples
Since 1 January 2008, the new Aliens Act has prescribed the new conditions for a residence permit beyond divorce. After dissolution of the marriage, the right to an extension of the residence permit will reamin in effect if the marriage has lasted at least three years and a successful integration exists, or if significant personal reasons make continued residence in Switzerland necessary (Art 50 AuG) an see the section "Separation" above.
The extension of a residence permit may be denied in cases of abuse of law (Art. 51 AuG).
Thanks for that useful info!
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there should be no kicking out.
everything else will cost and be painful but keep your chin up!

where do you work?
Why painful? because of the divorce or any kind of "lash" from the law?

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Why painful? because of the divorce or any kind of "lash" from the law?

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dude, no matter what you feel now, you'll be sad when you get divorced and you'll go through the pain of building up again.

and then things will suddenly be most excellent
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dude, no matter what you feel now, you'll be sad when you get divorced and you'll go through the pain of building up again.

and then things will suddenly be most excellent
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I feel a lot of forces trying to push you out. Not only these coming from the law...
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