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Re: Child home alone - permissible from what age

This subject amazes me every time I stumble into US parenting talk.
Scandic variation: from age 6 or so we traipsed to school and back on our own, fixed a bit of lunch, did homework and played for several hours until parents came home. Much like here, I suppose.
How are kids supposed to stay sane if they don't have time of their own until teenage?
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There are no age limits in Switzerland. As other members said it depends on the children. I left mine alone for a couple of hours when the oldest was about twelve. He was the "deputy head of family" and they got the phone number where they could reach me (pre mobile) and were told to go to the neighbour if there were problems. As far as I know they behaved well or at least the way I didn't notice anything wrong
So are you saying you could leave a six month old baby at home for a few hours without any legal repercussions? I'm not saying you're wrong but I find it hard to believe.

I was told that you could leave a child aged six at home for no longer than two hours but I cannot find a link that backs that up.
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Re: Child home alone - permissible from what age

We were left alone from an early age but we lived in a lovely neighborhood & my grandparents were just down the road if we needed them.
The neighborhood was the kind where you could walk into anyone’s house unannounced and get dinner.
My sisters daughter is 5, I wouldn’t dream of leaving her alone but my sister is happy to leg it to the shop for milk (So gone no more than 10 minutes).
FOr me, its up to the parent to make that judgment call and take it in small steps. 10 minutes here and there. . . and then gradually increase
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lol
There are times in life you better don't know what your children do. Mine are adult and slowly slowly let me know some of their misdeeds. Ignorance can be such a blessing!
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So are you saying you could leave a six month old baby at home for a few hours without any legal repercussions? I'm not saying you're wrong but I find it hard to believe.

I was told that you could leave a child aged six at home for no longer than two hours but I cannot find a link that backs that up.
There would be legal repercussions if something happened to the child.
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There are times in life you better don't know what your children do. Mine are adult and slowly slowly let me know some of their misdeeds. Ignorance can be such a blessing!
HA hahahah, yes. Im 26 & have been slowly telling my parents some of the stories of my wonderful youth.
they usually have a good laugh - - - after they pick their jaws up from the floor & realise its OK, Im an adult now and not that stupid (usually)!
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Re: Child home alone - permissible from what age

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What (if any) is the LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE age when a teenager can be left alone at home for extended periods of a week or two?
Edit: By legally permissible, i mean the age at which no one can take LEGAL ACTION against me as a parent for leaving the child alone.

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What (if any) is the LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE age when a teenager can be left alone at home for extended periods of a week or two?
Edit: By legally permissible, i mean the age at which no one can take LEGAL ACTION against me as a parent for leaving the child alone.
For a week or two? I would say 18.
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What (if any) is the LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE age when a teenager can be left alone at home for extended periods of a week or two?
Edit: By legally permissible, i mean the age at which no one can take LEGAL ACTION against me as a parent for leaving the child alone.
Given that kids can move out at 16 (albeit with a parent's permission) I would say there is little that can be done to reproach a parent leaving a 16 year old at home for a limited time.

I tried to find some legal language for it but it kept pointing me in the direction of the age children can live independently.
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Re: Child home alone - permissible from what age

A 16 year old Teenager is considered"urteilsfähig" (http://www.proinfirmis.ch/de/subseit...aehigkeit.html)
He should be able to differentiate between legal/illegal and can estimate risks and consequences. Therefore I guess he should be able to be alone for one week or so, provided you give him food and money.
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Re: Child home alone - permissible from what age

I've done it since when the elder was 13.

(ok, for one week max, two weeks only from 15)

They survived just fine, elder is now 27.

However, they both knew how to cook from scratch, do laundry, etc.

I don't think that there is a legal minimum here.

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What (if any) is the LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE age when a teenager can be left alone at home for extended periods of a week or two?
Edit: By legally permissible, i mean the age at which no one can take LEGAL ACTION against me as a parent for leaving the child alone.
If, in fact, you fear a legal action against you (which might be a reason why you asked) - I'd in that case really not risk it, also considering what you wrote about wellbeing of your kid before.
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Re: Child home alone - permissible from what age

My parents went away many times - just around the neighborhood or village, to visit friends or relatives - just let us the phone number right by the phone.

I remember I was about eight years old - the oldest of a pack of five - and I used it just once when one of my brothers had a severe ear ache and woke me up. Called my parents at the given number(it was the time before cell-phones) my mom walked back and cared for him.

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5 When I walked to school on my own, why should I not be allowed to be home alone when a parent does some quick shopping.
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Re: Child home alone - permissible from what age

Current poster mentioned a week or two, not a local shopping trip.

That means that the kids must be able to cook, clean, and maybe do laundry.

Mine could do that at ten, but it doesn't mean that someone else's can, and that's what you need to determine.

Also, what do you do if there is a problem and you are far away? I of course arranged with friends/meighbors to be available if required, and is something to consider.

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A 16 year old Teenager is considered"urteilsfähig" (http://www.proinfirmis.ch/de/subseit...aehigkeit.html)
He should be able to differentiate between legal/illegal and can estimate risks and consequences. Therefore I guess he should be able to be alone for one week or so, provided you give him food and money.
16 year old Teenager is normally considered "urteilsfähig". Bellow that age it depends on the circumstances.
https://www.lilli.ch/regeln_urteilsfaehigkeit/

But be aware that the law (Art. 16 Civil Code https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi....html#a16)does not set any hard limits (apart from 18) but simply says:
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A person is capable of judgement within the meaning of the law if he or she does not lack the capacity to act rationally by virtue of being its young age or because of a mental disability, mental disorder, intoxication or similar circumstances.
The original, but non official English translation says "under age" but that does not reflect the German/French/Italian text which use Kindesalters/jeune âge/infantile and does not mean minor in general.

In case something happens Art. 219 Criminal Code https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a219 would apply
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1 Any person who violates or neglects his or her duties of supervision and education towards a minor and thus endangers the minor's physical or mental development, is liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to a monetary penalty.

2 If the person concerned acts through negligence, a fine may be imposed instead of a custodial sentence or a monetary penalty
So even in case of 16 year old you have to apply good judgment and maybe on how well you know and trust your kids a neighbor/friend may pop his head into the house once or twice.
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A 16 year old Teenager is considered"urteilsfähig" (http://www.proinfirmis.ch/de/subseit...aehigkeit.html)
He should be able to differentiate between legal/illegal and can estimate risks and consequences. Therefore I guess he should be able to be alone for one week or so, provided you give him food and money.
Thanks many, Elu, for the link, but it talks about 'infirm' adults.
He is perfectly capable of staying alone since more than a year now. I have left him multiple times in the care of his elder sister (20 YO), and in fact he is the one who takes care of her, in many ways.

Both the kids have enough money, freezer stuffed with home made food to thaw and eat for the duration of my abscence, and of course whatsapp!!

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If, in fact, you fear a legal action against you (which might be a reason why you asked) - I'd in that case really not risk it, also considering what you wrote about wellbeing of your kid before.
I don't fear legal action from the Ex, if that's what you meant, MusicChick. It is simply that i don't want some nosy neighbor (and i do have one - the subject matter perhaps, of an upcoming post) to put me into legal trouble out of spite. Imagine that the 16 year old is making noise, walking around the apartment with his 'elephant feet' - she can complain about the noise, but not about the fact that he's been left alone in the house.
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Imagine that the 16 year old.
16?

Why is this even a question?

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Why is this even a question?

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Re: Child home alone - permissible from what age

Isn't this more a question of maturity and general behaviour than age? The recent thread of the 20 year old stepson left on his own who trashed both property and neighbours' cars while parents were on holiday certainly shows that age is no guarantee of responsible behaviour. A 16 year old may well be able to look after themselves for a couple of weeks while another 16 year wouldn't have a clue.

sva, if you're worried about it can the sister come and stay with him for those weeks - or can he move in with her?
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