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Or it's just a clash of cultures-he might be aware of that 1st-2nd-3rd date rule in the English speaking world, and doesn't know how to behave. In Germany, everything is made clear at the first date. Suggestion: invite him for dinner at your place. Get drunk.
There are just no 1st-2nd-3rd date rules here (sometimes it would make things easier). Your expectations could be plain wrong. In your case it would be really the best thing to invite him as suggested an explain how it works in your country with the dates. This way you can make clear what you feel without saying it directly and if it doesn't ring a bell on his side forget about it.
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:03
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i think this social pressure is one reason why men need to earn more than women for the relationship to work well. otherwise, the man is always put into an awkward position.
Come on.. you know some men enjoy that (!)
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:10
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Re: Fourth Date ...end of the Road?

Phil,

But is a man interested to date a woman in all her natural state? No waxing, no hair done, no nice clothes or a bit of make up, nothing. The very full natural woman at her deepest nature?

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i think this social pressure is one reason why men need to earn more than women for the relationship to work well. otherwise, the man is always put into an awkward position.
A perfect example of "equality when it's convenient for us" from the feminist brigade

I can understand if the lady is swiss, as they still have the mentality of pre equal rights revolution but he's German and she's not Swiss so given that it's the fourth date and we don't know what occured in the last 3 dates, it's fair to assume that said gentlemen (however stingy you might think he might be) felt he was hard done by, and wanted to make a point and share the bill this time
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:12
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Phil,

But is a man interested to date a woman in all her natural state? No waxing, no hair done, no nice clothes or a bit of make up, nothing. The very full natural woman at her deepest nature?
according to one of my ex. g.f's .. this was called winter.
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I had intended splitting the bill 50/50 but he blew that.
And you blew nothing. Lose lose on his side.
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Phil,

But is a man interested to date a woman in all her natural state? No waxing, no hair done, no nice clothes or a bit of make up, nothing. The very full natural woman at her deepest nature?
congratulations you won the non sequitur post award of the month.
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Re: Fourth Date ...end of the Road?

It seems to me that he doesn't like going to restaurants on his own .
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:23
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Re: Fourth Date ...end of the Road?

A man likes to go on a date with a good looking woman, right? Good looking ain't all natural for 99% of the female population. A bit of help is needed. A good wax, haircut, nails, wax, makeup, name it.

So while the guy has a good nice looking girl to go out with, think about how much time, energy and money she spend to make him appreciative of her good looking.

Let's face it, natural hairy woman who use only soap has a beauty product doesn't go that often in a date, right? Believe me, we would love to have nothing to do beside the soap, but the reality is very different.
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:26
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congratulations you won the non sequitur post award of the month.
Actually it does! it is to answer your remark on men who should earn more than a woman. But in reality, prior to a date,a woman may spend even more to get ready for her date.

She could spend less, but like I explain before, the guy might be disapointed.
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:29
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Hie guys!!

Who pays on dates, worse still the fourth date!!!

Need your help on this One. My Date invited me Out for dinner in Zürich last week, is was our fourth meeting! Before we had our dinner he suggested that we share the costs 50:50! I was shocked cause he had invited me, luckily I had some money with me! Is this normal? Does it shows that he's not interested in me? Upto now we never had a kisses apart from hugs which is good for me cause I don't know whether he's feeling the same! Later I called him to find out where I'm standing, only to be told that he needs time to know me, sounded a bit cold! Is this man serious or he's looking for a pal? I don't wanna get hurt!!

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My views (considered terribly old fashioned by some) on who should pay for dates are already well documented on the forum on a number of threads so I won't go into that here.

Haven't read this thread in entirety so my apologies if this has been asked already but who paid for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd dates and who did the inviting? The fact you were "shocked" he asked you to split the 4th date costs implies to me that he's done all the paying so far. Is this right?

Your post gives me the impression you are doing the chasing/leading on this and possibly wanting to move things along perhaps a tad faster than he does...

I agree with those commenters who've basically advised you to go with your own gut feelings and take your own advice as to the way forward. By age 40 both parties should know what they want by now and have an idea by the 4th date if there's a future in it or not...
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So while the guy has a good nice looking girl to go out with, think about how much time, energy and money she spend to make him appreciative of her good looking.

Let's face it, natural hairy woman who use only soap has a beauty product doesn't go that often in a date, right? Believe me, we would love to have nothing to do beside the soap, but the reality is very different.
So by that rational, if the woman stops looking good, can the man ask for his money back?
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Maybe he is just not that into you?
For that she has to wait for the 6th date
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:33
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Hie guys!!

Who pays on dates, worse still the fourth date!!!

Need your help on this One. My Date invited me Out for dinner in Zürich last week, is was our fourth meeting! Before we had our dinner he suggested that we share the costs 50:50! I was shocked cause he had invited me, luckily I had some money with me! Is this normal? Does it shows that he's not interested in me? Upto now we never had a kisses apart from hugs which is good for me cause I don't know whether he's feeling the same! Later I called him to find out where I'm standing, only to be told that he needs time to know me, sounded a bit cold! Is this man serious or he's looking for a pal? I don't wanna get hurt!!

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He isn't interested anymore but was just looking for a quick number. He's annoyed that you didn't give up the "goodies" as yet and thus doesn't feel like having to feed you.
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:34
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A man likes to go on a date with a good looking woman, right? Good looking ain't all natural for 99% of the female population. A bit of help is needed. A good wax, haircut, nails, wax, makeup, name it.
Ok, so lets reduce all that by 50% to begin with because not all of that is for him. The, when you get to the end of the date everyone can pull out their receipts and split the difference. Seems fair and equitable, yes? Oh, wait....you wanted witty, romantic, gallant, and generous as well? That's extra.
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Old 21.02.2012, 17:39
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So by that rational, if the woman stops looking good, can the man ask for his money back?
Nah, you just chip her in for a newer model.
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Nah, you just chip her in for a newer model.
I think it's quite likely that she will take half, and you'll be splitting bills with the new model, who would then be posting on forums to find out if you're into her or not... oh wait!
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Nah, you just chip her in for a newer model.
For some reason or the other, women tend to be by far more acceptable of their partner's changes than men.
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What should I do? Until when?? Help..
In matters of the heart, my learning has been (and I'm happy to have found it out) to say what you feel. No risk, no glory. At least no regrets.
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Phil,

But is a man interested to date a woman in all her natural state? No waxing, no hair done, no nice clothes or a bit of make up, nothing. The very full natural woman at her deepest nature?

Must be out of a Turkish porno magazine
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