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That price is correct for the clinic I went to as well.
damn I need to move to Lausanne too!

Amazing the differences in price - did you have your treatment via a private clinic or through a hospital?

I agree also re trusting your consultant and them doing what s needed to succeed
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I'm not sure what kind of experience you have, Eireann, but I disagree with you... If you scan every three days, you could miss the actual day of ovulation (which is the ultimate objective).

Klausanne... Please don't get caught up on the money... As I've stated before, it was just a number I used in comparison to ivf (which is approximately 10k in zuirch). I'm not looking to take advantage of anyone, but I would also not be looking to provide this as a charity either (except a pro bono case here and there).

Im sure your doctor would offer this if he thought it would help... But this idea is only for certain cases, not everyone who needs fertility assistance.
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I've been pregnant twice with scans every 3 days or so.
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Even is CH scans would not cost 3k that is why we think this figure is quite high also you are a technician, are you certified here in CH? You might be getting into trouble for doing this kind of work
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Eirenn.. I appreciate this was your experience (and really happy for you that it worked!), but i am sure you can appreciate this is not the case for everyone.

Angela... I have already wrote that I am qualified to do this and it is legal for me to do this in ch (says my attorney).

Again with the cost.. I did not say it was set... Just a number.. I appreciate you believe it is high, but you need to take in consideration of the costs... System, medical insurance, possible house call/office space.

Regardless, if the cost were lower, (I.e. The amount of what a gyn charges) would you then see the advantages?
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Hi,

Although you are a medical sonographer, do you have experience in the fertility field?

I have read of other people's infertility experiences, and I have never heard of anyone requiring scans every day to check for follicle growth.

It's also not clear who your target market is. People requiring IVF usually have ovulation or sperm issues. How is your scan going to help them? I don't understand how you can propose it as an alternative to IVF.

My guess is that were you to set up this service you would have a very limited market and may not be worth it (for you) given the expense involved. I think people having trouble conceiving would go first to a gynae and probably follow treatment that is reimbursed by the health insurance.
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Yes, I'm quite experienced in follicle scanning. I've worked for reproductive doctors and participated in fertility studies with major universities in the states.

If you google "follicle tracking", you will see it's not uncommon. It is also performed when patients take fertility drugs (i.e. clomid), but can be done without it. It can also be a great tool to detect any sort of ovulation issues (i.e. one ovary not working, etc.) Again, this is not a replacement for IVF, but perhaps an inbetween step for people who don't have sperm/egg issues (who require IVF)... or even help people understand that IVF would be the best step to take.

I've gotten some great feedback from this thread. It's always good to hear/read the perspective of others. Moving forward, I believe the best way to cater to the people that need this service is to speak to the ob/gyn and get referrals from them directly.

Again, thanks to everyone for their input!
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Re: IVF medical alternative

I wish you luck and hope you are right and can help other couples - I think you realise that pricing is an issue and should be reviewed. I think you have to see yourself competing with the IUI market - which was around 600 to 900 (I can't remember exactly, I think it was more around the 900CHF mark)

Also I was on clomid for a short while and had follicle tracking and it was every other day scans.
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I've gotten some great feedback from this thread. It's always good to hear/read the perspective of others. Moving forward, I believe the best way to cater to the people that need this service is to speak to the ob/gyn and get referrals from them directly.

Again, thanks to everyone for their input!

If you're not already familiar with the ob/gyn system in CH then I think you should discuss whether your service would work here. I don't know whether they would refer their patients to you rather than treat them themselves.

In the UK for example, people are sometimes given Clomid for several months and told to come back in xx months if not pregnant. I know some of these women would be delighted to have such a service to see if they were responding and when they are ovulating. These women also rarely see their consultant - scans are done by a sonographer and they often deal with a nurse. Here I deal with my Gyn and the scans are done by him also and this has been the same in other practices I've been to here.

Good luck - hope it works out for you.
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If you're not already familiar with the ob/gyn system in CH then I think you should discuss whether your service would work here. I don't know whether they would refer their patients to you rather than treat them themselves.

In the UK for example, people are sometimes given Clomid for several months and told to come back in xx months if not pregnant. I know some of these women would be delighted to have such a service to see if they were responding and when they are ovulating. These women also rarely see their consultant - scans are done by a sonographer and they often deal with a nurse. Here I deal with my Gyn and the scans are done by him also and this has been the same in other practices I've been to here.

Good luck - hope it works out for you.
Yes I have had the same experience, my gyne has an ultrasound top of the range in his practice and scans me at almost every appointment and during a cycle of IVF or IUI it can be every other day

So i feel your service would be offered privately without recommendation from a gyne
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