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How can I be confirmed Catholic?

Hello, I have been asked to be a godparent to my nephew who will be baptized Catholic and learned that the Godparent also needs to be confirmed Catholic. I was baptized Catholic but never had confirmation growing up. Does anyone have expereience with this, specifically doing this in Zurich (while not knowing much German)? Any advice is welcomed. Thank you.

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Old 13.03.2012, 22:09
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Re: How can I be confirmed Catholic?

Not sure about the exact procedure, but if you go to your local church the will probably tell you that attendance to a religion class is required. Some details in German here.

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http://www.st-anton-zuerich.ch/cms/w...mes-bernd.html
http://www.st-anton-zuerich.ch/cms/w...hoch-paul.html
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Re: How can I be confirmed Catholic?

The local tax office should be able to confirm it as well.
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The local tax office should be able to confirm it as well.
I hope that was a joke. Because that is not what is needed to be a god parent.
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Hello, I have been asked to be a godparent to my nephew who will be baptized Catholic and learned that the Godparent also needs to be confirmed Catholic. I was baptized Catholic but never had confirmation growing up. Does anyone have expereience with this, specifically doing this in Zurich (while not knowing much German)? Any advice is welcomed. Thank you.

Hestia
Go to your local church and discuss with the priest.

If you prefer to speak English, go to the English-speaking Catholic mission of Zurich and get in touch with an English-speaking priest.

Here is the mission website

http://www.englishmission.ch/

Most Catholics are confirmed as children but there are also confirmation programs for adults and your priest should be able to tell you about these. You basically attend some classes and then get a blessing from the bishop when you're done. I was confirmed on the same day as my father.
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I hope that was a joke. Because that is not what is needed to be a god parent.
It wasn't a joke. People pay church tax in Switzerland. If you pay for the catholic church, then you are catholic.
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It wasn't a joke. People pay church tax in Switzerland. If you pay for the catholic church, then you are catholic.
Well, not really. Confirmation is a sacrament like baptism, first communion or marriage. Usually you are confirmed by the bishop after having taken classes. It has nothing to do with paying taxes or not.

I don't know why anyone would want to but they could pay church tax and not ever be confirmed. No one at the commune actually checks if you've been baptized or not.
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Well, not really. Confirmation is a sacrament like baptism, first communion or marriage. Usually you are confirmed by the bishop after having taken classes. It has nothing to do with paying taxes or not.

I don't know why anyone would want to but they could pay church tax and not ever be confirmed. No one at the commune actually checks if you've been baptized or not.
My children each have a catholic and a protestant godparent and nobody ever asked whether they had had their confirmation or anything. They simply wrote down their names and protestant or Catholic.
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Hello, I have been asked to be a godparent to my nephew who will be baptized Catholic and learned that the Godparent also needs to be confirmed Catholic.
You have been misinformed. My daughter's godfather is protestant and that has never even been raised as a potential problem.
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Re: How can I be confirmed Catholic?

My wife is a godparent of a catholic sprog, and she isn't catholic. IIRC, one of the godparents had to say they were catholic, so the atheist did that. Really... The kids was only christened because one grandparent insisted on it.
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Re: How can I be confirmed Catholic?

It all depends on the priest and how conservative he is. I know a man who wasn't Catholic and needed a "stand-in" at the mass for him.

The governing body of the Catholic church and even those in charge at a local level can be very silly.
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You have been misinformed. My daughter's godfather is protestant and that has never even been raised as a potential problem.
No, she has been informed correctly. According to the Canon Law (Chapter IV, Can 874, link here in Italian) the potential godfather or godmother must be catholic and have had the confirmation and the communion, in addition to "living a life in accordance to the faith and his/her role as godfather/godmother".

Now, this is what the law says in theory. In practice, I have observed that it largely depends on the interpretation and how strict/how flexible the individual priest chooses to be. So there might be cases where the priest is more adherent to and insist upon the letter of the law, and others where he might be more open to discussion (like in your case).
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No, she has been informed correctly. According to the Canon Law (Chapter IV, Can 874, link here in Italian) the potential godfather or godmother must be catholic and have had the confirmation and the communion, in addition to "living a life in accordance to the faith and his/her role as godfather/godmother".

Now, this is what the law says in theory. In practice, I have observed that it largely depends on the interpretation and how strict/how flexible the individual priest chooses to be. So there might be cases where the priest is more adherent to and insist upon the letter of the law, and others where he might be more open to discussion (like in your case).
Yup, that's what I said but you said it more eloquently.
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Re: How can I be confirmed Catholic?

As others have pointed out, there are varying degrees of strictness of interpretation of the requirements of being a godparent. Most priests I have met over the years are happy that you commit to support the child in being raised as a Catholic -- and I would have thought that most priests would be happy enough to accept that commitment from a (non-confirmed) Catholic godparent.

If not, you can either shop around for different priests who view things differently, or you can go down the confirmation path. It depends a little bit on how religious the parents are, and how strong their tie is to a particular parish and/or priest.
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Hello, I have been asked to be a godparent to my nephew who will be baptized Catholic and learned that the Godparent also needs to be confirmed Catholic. I was baptized Catholic but never had confirmation growing up. Does anyone have expereience with this, specifically doing this in Zurich (while not knowing much German)? Any advice is welcomed. Thank you.
While this isn't specific to Switzerland, here is an overview of the process and what's required if you decide to get confirmed. I would imagine that the process would be similar here.
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Re: How can I be confirmed Catholic?

Ok, so I went to the source. The brochure (in German) to be download from this page, describing the rules of baptism in the Canton of Zurich, states:

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Katholischerseits muss einer der Paten katholisch und gefirmt
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Quick and dirty translation: On the catholic side, one of the godparents has to be a catholic and confirmed.

In other words, if the other godparent is confirmed, you're ok. If not, I guess you'll need to talk to the priest, or one of you will have to bite the bullet.
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Re: How can I be confirmed Catholic?

I can also confirm that noncatholics ( and confirmed anything) can become godparents at a catholic baptism, as happened at the most recent family baptism I attended.
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Old 15.03.2012, 23:44
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Re: How can I be confirmed Catholic?

And I can confirm that it's possible to be a godparent (twice) without actually taking part in the ceremony!

Tom

P.S. Despite being "confirmed", I've been an atheist since I was 16.
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