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I am glad your experiences have been positive with daycares. As I said, like you, I am just offering my 2 cents. My kids (the oldest also being 10) never had any antibiotics and have only had 1 sick day (between the 3 of them) since preschool. Some kids are just healthy and some kids just aren't. I am not sure that breastfeeding or exposure to more germs earlier have anything to do with their immune system as much as their genes. Luckily we are blessed with healthy kids.
Back to the original post, I don't see any advantage of english only daycare. My 2 older ones are in the internation school (since we came here when they were older and not planning on being here for more than a few years). The youngest went to an all german playgroup and is fluent now.
No right or wrong in parenting, it's what works best for each individual family.
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I am glad your experiences have been positive with daycares. As I said, like you, I am just offering my 2 cents. My kids (the oldest also being 10) never had any antibiotics and have only had 1 sick day (between the 3 of them) since preschool. Some kids are just healthy and some kids just aren't. I am not sure that breastfeeding or exposure to more germs earlier have anything to do with their immune system as much as their genes. Luckily we are blessed with healthy kids.
Back to the original post, I don't see any advantage of english only daycare. My 2 older ones are in the internation school (since we came here when they were older and not planning on being here for more than a few years). The youngest went to an all german playgroup and is fluent now.
No right or wrong in parenting, it's what works best for each individual family.
Hmm. Actually, I think me and my wife do a lot wrong in our parenting, things that can be considered wrong in all individual families. It is the correction of the things you as a parent did wrong, and the example that you then set for your kids, that makes you a good parent. And trust me, it takes a lot of effort to go back to your kid and say that you were wrong in whatever you did wrong (shouting, etc). Looking back, it is amazing that our children (oldest are eight) are growing up in such a well-behaved manner (most of the time anyway).

Regarding germs. Yes, some kids are more often sick than others. However, child care does have an influence on the immune system and the frequency of illness. This publication (Watamura 2010) suggest that elevated cortisol in children during child care may be related to both lowered antibody levels and greater illness frequency. Whether the downregulatory effect on the immune system of low-quality child care (either in child care on in low grad family care) has long-term consequences on the children's health and development has yet to be established (Vermeer 2011). Assuming that the illnesses experienced in this setting are not life threatening and the pathophysiology from those diseases causes no permanent development impairments, one might speculate that exposure to a broad array of antigens (in child care) early in life enables the immune system to “adjust and fine tune” itself to the future environments the child is likely to encounter.

That would speak for "exposing" your child to child care, or at least to circumstances where your child can get in contact with other children. Furthermore, we found that mastering the German language was important for our children to integrate well. And we want them to integrate well. At the same time we make sure to speak our mothertongue well at home, only switching to German when we have visitors.

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Hmm. Actually, I think me and my wife do a lot wrong in our parenting, things that can be considered wrong in all individual families. It is the correction of the things you as a parent did wrong, and the example that you then set for your kids, that makes you a good parent. And trust me, it takes a lot of effort to go back to your kid and say that you were wrong in whatever you did wrong (shouting, etc). Looking back, it is amazing that our children (oldest are eight) are growing up in such a well-behaved manner (most of the time anyway).
I have made a policy of doing that with our girls. I believe it has helped already in forging trust, as well as showing them that making mistakes is not something to hide from.

As for "doing things wrong", can I suggest a healthy dose of Nigel Latta's Politically Incorrect Parenting. Funny as hell, but highly relevant to parents everywhere. He is a Kiwi clinical psychologist who has dealt with prisoners and children and has a very good take on parenting. His premise is that parents these days are expected to be far too perfect. Basically he says you will do good and bad things as parents and that if the good outweighs the bad then it is a win! Yay!

He did some very good TV shows as well. Very well worth watching if you can find them.

Admittedly his take is from a New Zealand perspective, so probably won't translate to Switzerland 100%, but still. Just throwing that one out there. Even my mum loved watching the show, just to find out what she did wrong with me, way back when!

If you are interested, here is an interview with him on Radio NZ just this last Tuesday, about his latest short book of anecdotes:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/pr...-parenting.asx
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thank you soo much i feel a lot better now making my decision. My German isnt too bad so im sure it will all work out perfectly.

I am a bit concerned with the swiss day care cos i heard they usually only open till 12 noon . Also the parents must pick their kids up at 12 . dont know how true this is tho???? does any one have any info???

well not so sure about where u got this info from. my daughter's daycare's got several options, depending on what the parents need. it could b full day, half a day(mornings or evenings).it's really flexible and good.

plus it's a swiss-german daycare. that's to me is a plus for her to learn the language. was asked to speak just english or french to her at home(my home languages) and let her leran the other form the daycare or outside. was skeptical at the beginning, but happy now as she picks up real quick.it's also interesting to watch her try the languages when trying to make up her mind what language to use and with whom.
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it's also interesting to watch her try the languages when trying to make up her mind what language to use and with whom.
That is the best part!
I love hearing my eldest telling me, "I'm going to get the Iischtee from the Kuhlschrank"!
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well not so sure about where u got this info from. my daughter's daycare's got several options, depending on what the parents need. it could b full day, half a day(mornings or evenings).it's really flexible and good.
I think there maybe confusion the daycare is like nursery in the uk and offers the different sessions but some of the preschools here do not offer lunch and the children have to go home for lunch at 12pm however you could book another session to retun for the afternoon. this is how my sons garderie works.
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