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hi everyone,

I am very guilty of not being on line in a very long while!!!!
I have been busy being a 1st time mom. i would say it hasnt been too bad.

I was hoping i could get some advice from other experienced parents .

I am thinking of going back to work when my baby is a year old which is sometime in summer.

Can any1 please recommend a playgroup or creche in basel that accepts 1 year olds. or is it better to employ a nanny for that age??

I would appreciate all responses ...thanks in advance
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hi everyone,

I am very guilty of not being on line in a very long while!!!!
I have been busy being a 1st time mom. i would say it hasnt been too bad.

I was hoping i could get some advice from other experienced parents .

I am thinking of going back to work when my baby is a year old which is sometime in summer.

Can any1 please recommend a playgroup or creche in basel that accepts 1 year olds. or is it better to employ a nanny for that age??

I would appreciate all responses ...thanks in advance
English or German speaking creche/playgroup?
Personally, I'd either get a nanny or send baby to a Tagesmutter/Tagesfamilie.
Here's a link for Basel: http://www.tagesfamilien.org/
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Re: 1st time mom seeking advice

http://www.kissnordwestschweiz.ch/index_e.php is a really good site
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Re: 1st time mom seeking advice

BUt does not contain all the options available in Basel.

I recommend that you contact the Basel Childbirth Trust (BCT) for a list of known places - you could also talk to other parents involved with the BCT, to hear their impressions of different places, befoe you go and visit places and make your own decision.
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Many thanks for the links. I will have a look
Actually I am looking for an English speaking one.
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Many thanks for the links. I will have a look
Actually I am looking for an English speaking one.
Would you not want a mixed one?
a) It would help with your childs integration
b) The timetables are usually a lot more flexible if you go for the 'native language' options
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With the mixed ones I fear dey might speak more of German than English. My German isn't soo good neither is my husband's .... We both speak English.
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With the mixed ones I fear dey might speak more of German than English. My German isn't soo good neither is my husband's .... We both speak English.
My wife and I are the same, but we'd rather ours grew up with german, even it means she's better at it than us - in the short term at least - our older brains are less adept at sucking up the language!

And she will need german when she gets to school age; if you leave the german until then it'll 'harder' for them to learn, and will hinder her social development.

And not to worry - its perfectly ok to talk 100% english with them. In fact, its essential to ensure they remain bi-lingual, and for their own 'security'.
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Re: 1st time mom seeking advice

I agree with Silverburn if you plan to stay here long term and dont intend on sending your child to international school a mixed or german nursery would be ideal.

I have 3 young children, the oldest is 5 and goes to local school we only arrived a year ago but he has already picked up the language and flicks between the 2 depending on whom he is speaking to. My other son has just begun a french speaking preschool he is 2.5 and he can understand the french instruction and also us when we speak in english as we dont speak french in the home.

Many friends who had bilingual children in the UK, their children had no issue in speaking the different languages.. they would try one and then if there was no response speak the same word in the other language..

Good luck and once you have a list maybe visit some english speaking, mixed or german speaking so you are able to compare.

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Wow nice one!!! I didn't think of it like that
Really appreciate the responses
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Re: 1st time mom seeking advice

My husband and I don't speak much German but we have no problem with our daughter at Swiss German Krippe. You don't really need many words to communicate the baby's preferences or daytime activities, and with anything more complicated (e.g. when she has been ill and has some medication) I write a short note. There are so many more options if you go local and I found them to be slightly cheaper too.
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Re: 1st time mom seeking advice

I'm going to go with the voting for a bilingual one. I went back to work when my daughter was just over a year old and opted for a bilingual day care. She has been there for two years now and she speaks English and German fluently. It means that she has a huge advantage, one I wish I had had too! I don't speak any German (I opted for French, as we live in France), although my husband does (he got the German) but since I am the one doing drop off and pick up, and any of the dealings with the day care, I have found absolutely no issue with not speaking German. Most of the staff speak English (as it is a bilingual day care) and the few who don't speak fluently, know some essential words, and will often get one of the others to translate if they have something in particular they would like to tell me.

I love the flexibility and hours of the 'local' style day care, and with my daughter fluent in German, it is something we will make sure she keeps for the rest of her life.
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Re: 1st time mom seeking advice

thank you soo much i feel a lot better now making my decision. My German isnt too bad so im sure it will all work out perfectly.

I am a bit concerned with the swiss day care cos i heard they usually only open till 12 noon . Also the parents must pick their kids up at 12 . dont know how true this is tho???? does any one have any info???
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Re: 1st time mom seeking advice

I am a stay at home mom, so can't offer too much insight on daycares, but can offer advice as a parent. If you can afford it and do your research, I would prefer a nanny at that age over a daycare. One and only reason is that there are a lot more germs in daycare with other children than in your own home. Your child will probably be sick for a good part of that year and you'll have to take sick days (not to mention run to get him at the exact time at night).
If you do decide to put him in daycare, I think an all german or bilingual one is a better way to go. At this age, there is no harm in learning another language and your child will still be fluent in english (assuming that's what you speak at home).
So, my suggestion is a GOOD nanny for the first year, a german or bilingual daycare after that.
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One and only reason is that there are a lot more germs in daycare with other children than in your own home. Your child will probably be sick for a good part of that year and you'll have to take sick days (not to mention run to get him at the exact time at night).
And then they will have developed a strong immune system and be able to fight off illnesses better later on. I would personally take the kid and rub them on other kids, get them sick, get them better, build up their ability to heal. Dirty kids make for healthy adults. It is a fallacy we have developed that says children should be clean and kept away from germs.

And yes, even a 12 month old. Both of our children had day care for a few days a week from before they turned one, and sure they got sick a few times, but not all that often, and now, even at the ages of 2.5 and nearly 5 they hardly get sick at all.
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And then they will have developed a strong immune system and be able to fight off illnesses better later on. I would personally take the kid and rub them on other kids, get them sick, get them better, build up their ability to heal. Dirty kids make for healthy adults. It is a fallacy we have developed that says children should be clean and kept away from germs.
I agree with you in theory. However, for a mother who is about to go back to work, unless there is a very reliable backup person, that could also mean having to take time off work for staying at home with the sick child.

That can be especially stressful over that first year when one is trying to prove to an employer, that having a baby will not interfer with being at work.

Perhaps the answer, in that case, is to ensure that the baby has actually had lots of contact with other children, adults and places well before beginning at the daycare centre, or have the child begin at the centre well before you actually go back to work.

There are many excellent daycare centres around. However, the other option of having someone in your home, does have advantages including no plan B needed if the child is sick ( but you do need one for if the caregiver is sick) and the child will get more 1:1 interaction, cuddles etc when not competing with several other Little Ones, for attention.
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Many thanks to you all!!!!!!!
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We don't keep a germ free house by any means (especially with 3 kids). But in daycare there are more germs and it hasn't been proven that in the long term they are healthier (my kids are pretty healthy and hardly get sick). I am talking from my friends and family's experience, where it caused a lot more unnecessary stress because someone had to always be there on time to pick up the child and the children were sick pretty often (so one of the parents - usually the mother, had to stay home with the sick child).
She is not set on daycare (if she or you were, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it), she is still debating, so I am offering advice from what I've seen for her to consider.
1) is she prepared to have a sick child for a big part of the first (and maybe even the second year).
2) does she have enough sick days (and flexibility) that she can work from home or call in sick when the child will be.
I am not anti daycare at all, sometimes a family doesn't have a choice. I also think it is better than a nanny at 2-3+. For 1 year old (imo), a nanny is better (and easier). Just my 2 cents.
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And she will need german when she gets to school age; if you leave the german until then it'll 'harder' for them to learn, and will hinder her social development.

And not to worry - its perfectly ok to talk 100% english with them. In fact, its essential to ensure they remain bi-lingual, and for their own 'security'.
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I agree with Silverburn if you plan to stay here long term and dont intend on sending your child to international school a mixed or german nursery would be ideal.
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If you are going to put them through the local system, putting your child with a German tagesmutter will give it a real boost when it comes to kindergarten and school.
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Re: 1st time mom seeking advice

As a mum who has worked full time since her child was 16 weeks old (now 10). and has moved 3 times within Uk and to here, I have never had any back up support from family. I agree with GuyC comments. I strongly believe my child has a healthy immune system as a result of fulltime daycare and exposure to many children and "bugs" Since arriving in Basel 4.5 years ago, my son has only had three days off school, and visited a doctor only 4 times for vaccinations - no illness's. Infact when asked if he is allergic to any medications or antibiotics - my answer is I do not know as he has never had any! He is far healthier than any of friends at school who are frequently missing for "fevers" etc.
My advice is if you want to go back to work - do it, one cannot live in fear of a child being sick, I certainly do not believe in if your child goes to daycare they will spend the majority of their first year being ill, they may have many sniffles and runny noses (without fever, but not necessarily a reason to be at home) Anyother illness's they get will be childhood illness anyway and probably exposed as a result of going to playgroups and other "child places" that they woulod go to if you were a stay at home mum.
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