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Tragetuch / Wrap users in Zürich area ?

Me and my wife we plan to carry our 4-weeks baby (3.8kg) more and more in a Tragetuch / wrap; we have a Dolcino non-elastic + an elastic one .

My question is for the parents that are already using Tragetuchen and if they can underline on what should we pay attention. We already identified two things that we are not certain that we do right, mostly because we found different opinions. So:
- baby legs position - how they should be positioned ? like in a cocoon, under / on our tummy or on a side, in a M-shape like ?
- baby head - how should be positioned ? on a side, deep inside the Tuch, can't be dangerous ?

Here is a 2weeks old picture - http://www.flickr.com/photos/vasile23/6896642354/ - wonder if you already see something wrong.

The Zürich tag in my question, if is any parent there that is willing to advice how to use the Tuch in a face to face session please let me know, Thanks !
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Old 13.04.2012, 23:39
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Re: Tragetuch / Wrap users in Zürich area ?

We carried our daughter all the time in a variety of wraps. But she's seven now, so it's been a long time since I've had to use one!

Have you checked out this? http://www.babywearing.com

It's a great site for information on all the different kinds of wraps and other carriers, as well as information on different positions etc. There is also a great forum where you might find the answers to your questions.

The only problem I had is that the more I read the more I wanted to try out different carriers, which can turn into an expensive habit.
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Re: Tragetuch / Wrap users in Zürich area ?

Hello Cotzo

Great to hear that you decided to carry your baby in a wrap, it's a wonderful way to give your baby what it needs .

The baby's legs should be positioned in a M-shape; legs spread not more than 90°C apart (you can check the angle by placing your hands on its thighs) and the knees should be about on the same height as its belly button. In German this is called "Anhock-Spreiz-Stellung", unfortunately I don't know the name in English. Always wrap with the legs out, as it puts too much strain on the joints if you wrap legs in.

At 4 weeks old, the baby's head should still be supported well. The wrap should reach up to the top of its ears (if it's too low, the head has not got enough support), and the head should "sit" straight on the spine, not tilted backwards. Of course the baby doesn't have to face your chest, it can also lay its cheek on your chest turning the head left or right. If you carry your baby like in the picture linked, there shouldn't be a problem that it won't get enough air.

Such a cute picture! (mini-baby, yay )... You don't need to pull the wrap as high as in the picture, but the back looks nicely supported without any creases in the fabric, well done! Can't see the legs though, so can't comment on that.

There are quite a few baby-carrying parents in and around Zurich, you just have to know where to find them . A good place to start is here: http://tragwiiti.ch/ - they organise regular meetups (either walks or themed events), it's also a good place to look if you live in/around Zurich and are interested in a professional consultation on how to wrap your baby (and what wraps are best for you). I'm sure if you drop them a mail, they have someone speaking English... The Swiss baby-wearing forum is unfortunately in German (I can give you the link if you want), tho there are a few Swiss mums writing on a UK-based forum: http://www.naturalmamas.co.uk/forum/index.php

Hope this helps!
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Re: Tragetuch / Wrap users in Zürich area ?

You can also try seeking out your local parent advice centre (Mütter- und Väterberatung) as they can probably give you face-to-face help. I didn't feel comfortable using my baby carriers (I have a stretchy wrap and an Ergo) because I was worried about positioning, so my Mütterberaterin told me to bring them in and she and a colleague spent a good while showing me what to do with the stretchy wrap and answering my questions until I did feel confident. I had done some reading online and watched demonstration videos on Youtube but it was so helpful to have someone check what I was doing with my actual baby. My son was almost 5 kg at 4 weeks so it was a great relief to my arms to get him into a carrier!

Chances are you have already been sent or given some information about your local centre but if not you can check here.

http://www.muetterberatung.ch/MVB/index.htm
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Re: Tragetuch / Wrap users in Zürich area ?

I have just been recommended this website/forum for English speakers, you have to register first tho before you can access the forum: http://www.thebabywearer.com/forum/index.php
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Re: Tragetuch / Wrap users in Zürich area ?

From the picture, I would agree that there is a bit much fabric above the ears (baby wearer, children are now 1 1/2 and 3). Definitely legs splayed into an M-shape at this age is best.

If you are new at the wrapping thing, I would say that the biggest mistake is to wear the wrap too loosely, such that the spine of your baby is curling into a C-shape. If you can lift your baby into a more upright position when you're already wrapped up, you're probably too loose. This can result in the baby's head tilting forward, chin to chest, which is apparently how problems begin.

When mine were very small, I was very concerned about the scary stories of wraps, and I found that the sling-style was considered especially dangerous, because of the chin to chest position. So, I checked them often, and kept very good posture (since slumping also allowed more space for their heads to slip downward). I also was aware that, because of the extra body heat, they needed very little clothing on the parts that were covered (though in this weather, obviously you'll need a little hat if you only pull the wrap up to the ears, and socks, which are way cute anyways!

Bottom line-stop by a good shop or have a midwife come over to have your wrap positioning checked (I can recommend pink-or-blue near Schaffhauserplatz if that's close by-super good store run by midwives!) and otherwise use your good sense and watch your posture. You want a fairly straight back.

Anyway, both of my daughters loved the wrap, so kudos to you, and don't forget to hold your baby's head up when you're loading the dishwasher (yeah, I had the bouncing baby head a few times, but the baby survived!)
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