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3) the schooling is very different to UK schooling so be ready for this as it can take some getting used to. such as:
- not being allowed to walk your children kiga
- kiga year 1 & 2 doesn't generally involve any direct learning so this can be frustrating if your children have already started to learn to read / write.

Do I understand this correctly...you, as a parent, are not allowed to walk your child to school?
I lived in Switzerland until I was 9 years old....and I actually recall never having a parent walk me to school...always walked to school in a group of kids...thinking back to it, I always assumed it was because that was just the way it was back then (20 something years ago now) I had no idea that parents were actually encouraged/told not to?
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The school bag situation apparently begins with 1st Klasse (after Kindergarten years) where you have to have the correct kind of backpack (which cost about 80fr or you are a social outcast!!) Can't wait to spend that on a school bag for her next year! Kindergarten doesn't seem to have any particular bag code, anything goes!
I so remember my first backpack!!! (pink and white) I definitely would have felt like an outcast without it!
I had no idea they were that expensive though...now I feel a bit guilty !
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Do I understand this correctly...you, as a parent, are not allowed to walk your child to school?
I lived in Switzerland until I was 9 years old....and I actually recall never having a parent walk me to school...always walked to school in a group of kids...thinking back to it, I always assumed it was because that was just the way it was back then (20 something years ago now) I had no idea that parents were actually encouraged/told not to?
Well, it's not illegal for any parent to walk with their child. But, I have read a translated version of the local canton kg curriculum and it certainly mentions independently getting to and from school as one of the goals to be worked towards.

How that is interpreted seems to vary between different kgs. I have seen too many near misses between vehicles and young children here, in the mornings, to feel personally comfortable with the idea. It;s lucky that there are so many defensive drivers about.
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Old 15.04.2012, 08:19
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Where do you buy such kindergarten bag?

We are going to arrive just one week before starting school at the beginning of June so with all the fuss of the moving I won't have much time to go shopping. Anyway we'll do our best.

Also, are trainers allowed for outdoors?

Thank you so much for all the super useful replies!
you can look online for a z'nuni bag (tasche or kindergartentasche) and find a list of quite expensive kit (z'nuni is the Swiss German word for their morning snack...I had to ask staff at a Manor store to tell me what that meant back in August ). My daughter just used a backpack she already had.

We did need to go out and get her some hiking boots and a hiking backpack (the latter wasn't needed as much - and the thing that made it hiking to me was that you can snap the 2 shoulder straps together in the front). We were told by one of her fellow 5 year olds that the light up Sketchers just wouldn't suffice for "Forest" days. But I was able to find some hiking boots at Vögele Shoes for not too much money.

I think as far as the bag goes, at least, you don't need to worry about it. Just wait and see if what you already have will work. If not, then you can worry about it!
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Old 15.04.2012, 09:53
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Re: Kindergarten: what to bring?

By no means an endorsement, and I'm sure you can find similar formats in the UK, but here's the link to the Amazon.de page

Sneakers shouldn't be an issue but as others have said, you'll definitely want to pick up a pair of gumboots for those rainy days outdoors and a proper raincoat helps - not a kagool which probably won't be waterproof enough.
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Re: Kindergarten: what to bring?

Any sort of bag is fine for Kindergarten, there are no rules. It just has to fit their snack in it most days. On days where there is swimming or PE my daughter just takes a slightly bigger bag and puts her snack in there. Don't stress about the bag, you probably already have what you need!
Any kind of shoes are allowed for outdoors, its up to you and what you think is suitable for the weather and activity. Trainers are fine for everyday school but if its the wood in winter you would probably want them to wear winter boots. If its wood day and its pouring down then wellies! There are lots of shoe shops here, that sell lots of boots at all prices. My daughter has never had proper hiking boots or a hiking rucksack. Try Dosenbach in the autumn and you can buy winter boots that reach to about calf level, there are plenty of other shops but the prices in Dosenbach are reasonable (especially for something that is going to get wet, muddy, scuffed......)
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Do I understand this correctly...you, as a parent, are not allowed to walk your child to school?
I lived in Switzerland until I was 9 years old....and I actually recall never having a parent walk me to school...always walked to school in a group of kids...thinking back to it, I always assumed it was because that was just the way it was back then (20 something years ago now) I had no idea that parents were actually encouraged/told not to?
It is set as a "goal" for the kids and some teachers are more vocal than others about the importance. However it is in my opinion down to the parent to decide if your kid is ready to do it and what their route is. In my daughters first Kindergarten, it was a 2km walk through the middle of nowhere, with no pavements, and tractors and other farm machinery speeding up the narrow roads. I decided that at 4 1/2 years old she wasn't walking with two other 4 year olds, and i walked with her there and back. The teacher wasn't happy but tough luck! We then moved to a different town (as opposed to a little village) and her walk is 3-5 minutes, through apartment complexes with one small road to cross - fine that she goes on her own or with other kids. She wanted to walk independently and I'm happy with the route. She is very proud to walk to and from school herself (so I get why they are encouraged to be a little independent at such a young age and I like that!)
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Re: Kindergarten: what to bring?

ha ha... I had this same dilema two years ago... so here is a run down of what we do. Aside from the weather appropriate clothing here are all the extras.

Regular day:
z'nuni bag, my son has one with a "T-Rex" dinosaur (znuni = morning tea)
lunchbox with raw food that varies day to day, but I choose from apple, carrot, capsicum, cherry tomatoes and chuck of cucumber. He refuses to take a vegemite sandwich because the other kids think it is Nutella (ie not allowed)
kinskibandel (sp?) (see picture) plus in the first week the police man teaches the kids about road safety. Something I reinforce constantly.
on sunny days a hat with sunscreen applied before he walks out the door
a kiss on the cheek, a hug and a "see you at lunchtime"

Sport day:
as per regular day, but tracksuit pants instead of jeans, shorts when hot
water bottle (ALU bottle like http://www.sigg.com/ch-shop/ch__de/kids)
gym shoes shoved in bag, but he doesn't wear them anyway

Forest day (aka Waldtag)
as per regular day but add
weather proof jacket, pants and shoes (when super muddy then gum boots)
most kids have a backpack with a clip across the chest but my son never found one that he liked so he just uses his regular bag
the snack changes to a Cervelas cooked over an open fire (by the kids) - they love it (google Coop and Cervelas to see what these are)

I heard that bananas leave sugar on the teeth, so drink water after you eat a banana. I walked my son for the two weeks introducing myself to the other mothers. But they could see me struggling with my morning sickness so offered to watch him. After 2 months they all walked by themselves.
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Re: Kindergarten: what to bring?

Very useful posts!! Thank you so much to all of you for being so helpful.

I have been looking for the bags online so I can buy them now and send them to the hotel. I need 2 with dinosaurs and I have only managed to find some at www.babywalt.ch They are very cute however price is CHF 98 each. Is it there any other Swiss online shop where I could buy them for a more reasonable price?

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I have been looking for the bags online so I can buy them now and send them to the hotel. I need 2 with dinosaurs and I have only managed to find some at www.babywalt.ch They are very cute however price is CHF 98 each. Is it there any other Swiss online shop where I could buy them for a more reasonable price?

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I would say that at my daughter's kindergarten only some of the kids had these bags. Most just had a small rucksack, and, to be honest, having a bag that's big enough to also hold a raincoat isn't a bad idea. So there really is no need to spend so much money on something that has such limited use. Unless you have your heart set on them and can find them for a much cheaper price...
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Re: Kindergarten: what to bring?

Sounds very reasonable. We already have the forest bag that has the front attachments that they can take with them the first days so I will wait and see what the kids in our new school use.
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Very useful posts!! Thank you so much to all of you for being so helpful.

I have been looking for the bags online so I can buy them now and send them to the hotel. I need 2 with dinosaurs and I have only managed to find some at www.babywalt.ch They are very cute however price is CHF 98 each. Is it there any other Swiss online shop where I could buy them for a more reasonable price?

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I also would not bother spending so much money on a bag for kindergarten, the point about having a bigger bag for raincoat/trousers is a very good one. My daughter has used a variety of bags for Kindergarten depending on how much stuff she has that day and none of them were expensive. Her bag for this year came from a market in Italy for about 9euros and before that she had a Dora backpack which cost about $5!
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