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Cycling with kids -- trail-a-bikes and trailer bikes

I couldn't find a thread that discussed children's bikes so I've started this one. If the moderators believe it should be moved to sports/fitness and/or merged with an existing thread, please do so.

We are recreational bicyclers and are trying to decide what to take with us when we move to the Zurich area soon. My husband and I both plan to bring our mountains bikes. Our almost five year old has a little bike with training wheels, but since she's not supposed to be on a public road until she's seven, we're not going to bring it.

The questions I have for the forum concern which of the following bike accessories we should bring.

We have a trail-a-bike http://www.trail-a-bike.com/product/trail-a-bikes/ and a bike trailer http://instep.net/trailers.html.

The first consideration is space. Do we want to use our precious cargo space to move both the trail-a-bike and the bike trailer? We still haven't decided how much if any furniture we're going to bring because we don't know if the house will sell, or if we'll be renting it possibly semi-furnished. Also, I believe most apartments have some sort of cellar space, but do we really want to store both adult bikes, the trail-a-bike, and the bike trailer in the apartment and/or cellar?

I think she likes the trail-a-bike better and it will give more practice actually balancing and pedaling. Does anyone know if trail-a-bikes are commonly used and/or legal in Switzerland?

We're hoping to be car-free in Switzerland, so one benefit of bringing the bike trailer is to use it to haul groceries. Is that practical or not worth the hassle?

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated
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Old 06.11.2007, 00:23
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The first consideration is space. Do we want to use our precious cargo space to move both the trail-a-bike and the bike trailer?
At 5 years old she's not going to be in the trailer for much longer anyway. It's only good if you're going to take her out in all weathers or you need it for hauling the groceries.

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Also, I believe most apartments have some sort of cellar space, but do we really want to store both adult bikes, the trail-a-bike, and the bike trailer in the apartment and/or cellar?
You'll usually have a storage space or cellar and some apartments have a special bike storage. The latter can vary from a roofed space outside to a locked communal bike room. The bike room in my place wouldn't have room for a trailer but then I've seen places with enough space to party in.

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Does anyone know if trail-a-bikes are commonly used and/or legal in Switzerland?
They are used, but they're not seen so often. Yes, they are legal.

I can't say either way about the practicality of hauling groceries in a trailer. If you're in a town then the public transport and a trolley bag might be enough. The Mobility car-sharing scheme is a good alternative for the large/bulky/IKEA shopping.
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Old 06.11.2007, 12:52
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Re: Cycling with kids -- trail-a-bikes and trailer bikes

Your kid can still ride a bike aged under 7. We take ours out on the forrest trails & bike routes with no problem. You also often see under fives riding their bikes on the pavement.
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Your kid can still ride a bike aged under 7. We take ours out on the forrest trails & bike routes with no problem. You also often see under fives riding their bikes on the pavement.
Okay, I was wondering about that. So, if she decides she's ready to ride independently before she's seven, we can find her bike and she can ride "off road".
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Re: Cycling with kids -- trail-a-bikes and trailer bikes

Does anyone have any experience of Leggero bike child trailers? Specifically the Vento? Good points and bad points?

It seems much cheaper than the U.S. imports and is locally made.

It's about 0.5 - 1 Kg heavier than some but these are much more expensive at around CHF1000-CHF1500.

There's a special offer at the moment. Buy 3 and save CHF300.00 in total so each one is CHF399 rather than CHF499. This is direct from the manufacturer.

So, if they any good and I can find two more interested parties in the Zurich area then I'll order three.

We plan to use it mainly on paths and forest tracks. We do currently have a child seat but with that, you can't fit panniers and a rack an it does make stopping a pain as you need to find something to lean the bike against.
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Re: Cycling with kids -- trail-a-bikes and trailer bikes

I havent seen the Leggero in the flesh, but be careful to compare apples to apples. The model you mentioned doesn't have suspension or multiple uses (bike trailer, stroller, jogger etc) like the CHF900+ models. Still it looks a good price for what it is, though I find it hard to believe it is Swiss made at that price!

A good range is here at Veloplus. The "Croozer" looks more the league of the Leggero.

We ended up buying one of the expensive ones for the suspension and that we are using it as the stroller for our newborn, plus we are car-less bike nuts

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Does anyone have any experience ofLeggerobike child trailers? Specifically the Vento? Good points and bad points?

It seems much cheaper than the U.S. imports and is locally made.

It's about 0.5 - 1 Kg heavier than some but these are much more expensive at around CHF1000-CHF1500.

There's a special offer at the moment. Buy 3 and save CHF300.00 in total so each one is CHF399 rather than CHF499. This is direct from the manufacturer.

So, if they any good and I can find two more interested parties in the Zurich area then I'll order three.

We plan to use it mainly on paths and forest tracks. We do currently have a child seat but with that, you can't fit panniers and a rack an it does make stopping a pain as you need to find something to lean the bike against.
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Cycling with kids -- trail-a-bikes and trailer bikes

I'm bumping this post up rather than start a new thread.

We're in the market for a bike trailer (eying the Croozer 2 or Chariot Cougar 2) and something no one mentioned is how does it fare in shopping situations? I have only once seen a very slim style of bike trailer-stroller in the COOP but I wasn't paying attention to the brand.

If you use your kids' bike trailer as a stroller, could you advise as to how it fits through supermarket checkouts? Thanks!

(By the way the average COOP/Migros measures 77-79cm at the checkout, as far as my experience has been. Yes, I measure, and yes, I got stares)
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today we were out with Kid#3 (3 months) in the Bike trailer (chariot), Kid#2 (3yrs) on the Follow-me (he can ride, but doesnt yet have the endurance) and Kid#1 (5 yrs) riding alone. I must say it is nice having a life again
There are lots of cycle paths here, and all types of trailers & cycle additives and preservatives are seen here. As far as you wallet may carry you
These kids are now 2,5 & 7.. I still use the bike trailer 3-5 times a week, and have used it for 7 years now. So the 1000chf+ "investment" for the chariot cougar 2 seater has been well worth it. We bought this one as it had the best safety report at the time. Some tip when going around corners on the road.

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.... (eying the Croozer 2 or Chariot Cougar 2) and something no one mentioned is how does it fare in shopping situations? I have only once seen a very slim style of bike trailer-stroller in the COOP but I wasn't paying attention to the brand.
I go through the wheelchair checkout, as the trailer is as wide as a wheelchair. (Fundamentally i think it is pretty unfair that people in wheelchairs dont fit thru every checkout, but thats a different thread)

Or I pile everything on the conveyor belt, and walk thru the "in" door again.. But hey, thats just me

Or i park the beast near all the old ladies shopping trolley bags, use a normal cart, and load the gear in, at the end.
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These kids are now 2,5 & 7.. I still use the bike trailer 3-5 times a week, and have used it for 7 years now. So the 1000chf+ "investment" for the chariot cougar 2 seater has been well worth it. We bought this one as it had the best safety report at the time. Some tip when going around corners on the road.

I go through the wheelchair checkout, as the trailer is as wide as a wheelchair. (Fundamentally i think it is pretty unfair that people in wheelchairs dont fit thru every checkout, but thats a different thread)

Or I pile everything on the conveyor belt, and walk thru the "in" door again.. But hey, thats just me

Or i park the beast near all the old ladies shopping trolley bags, use a normal cart, and load the gear in, at the end.
That's my thinking-only I wish I'd thought about it before I bought half a dozen other strollers. Just came home with my spanking new chariot a few minutes ago and I'll give it a test-drive for groceries on Monday. Thanks for the advise; I get nervous with these things (going through the "in" door, parking it next to the oldies' bags..) as if someone will arrest me for taking up too much social space!

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.... Just came home with my spanking new chariot a few minutes ago and I'll give it a test-drive for groceries on Monday. Thanks for the advise; I get nervous with these things (going through the "in" door, parking it next to the oldies' bags..) as if someone will arrest me for taking up too much social space!

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Just like spiders, these locals are probably more scared of you, than you are of them..
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Who said that you should do something that scares you every day, just to stay alive...

"Arresting you" made me smile..

If you're blonde, you could always deal them the "dumb blonde" card, else the "silly hausfrau" line if someone gets in your way (but i'm not giving away too many of my little secrets here)

Just like spiders, these locals are probably more scared of you, than you are of them..
Oh, I love this response! If i could thank you twice I would. OT: I'm not blonde but I am much darker than most locals which can help in playing the "civilization is all so new to me" card .

As for the Chariot.. gorgeously smooth ride! We chose it over the Croozer (if anyone reading here is considering the Croozer 2, one should note it has no suspension and makes for a bumpy ride for the kids. Spacious though and a good price at 649chf).

And sorry if this seems obvious to some, but I hadn't thought it would be such a significant workout hauling 2 kids on a slight incline. I've only seen long-legged swiss women gliding by with the trailers and dreamt I'd look just like them. Not a chance. It also didn't help that my son kept saying 'Mummy why are we going SOOOO slow?".
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bring our mountains bikes. Our almost five year old has a little bike with training wheels, but since she's not supposed to be on a public road until she's seven, we're not going to bring it.
My daughter is cycling along with me in town since she was 51/2 and i've never had a problem with it. Sometimes she rides on the pavement and i cycle on the road.
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