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Old 20.06.2012, 13:03
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900 chf. Including first consultation to discuss decision, check that both partners are in agreement, and talk about risks.

Less than 20 minutes for the actual procedure. No problems going home on the tram/bus (while the anaesthetic is still in effect).
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Forget about the male/female thing. Just think about procedure and risks. A full operation with full anesthetics and several days in hospital, or a 20 mins with local anaesthetics and home and walking like John Wayne for a couple of days. No contest
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Old 20.06.2012, 15:30
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Re: Tubal ligation vs. vasectomy

I don't mean to scare anyone away from getting the ol' snippy snip, but...

A good friend of mine's husband had a vasectomy, and for whatever reason, he can't stand having his ____ touched ever since.
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Old 20.06.2012, 15:53
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I don't mean to scare anyone away from getting the ol' snippy snip, but...

A good friend of mine's husband had a vasectomy, and for whatever reason, he can't stand having his ____ touched ever since.
What's ___ ?

There's so many pseudonyms, surely you could have made a little effort

Take your pick...



Meat thermometer
One-eyed monster
One-eyed snake
Energizer bunny
Boomerang
Magic stick
Lincoln log
Anaconda
Trouser snake
Pipecleaner
Seabiscuit
Pleasure pump
Best friend
The dicktator
Tripod
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Little guy
Big guy

just to name a few...
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Old 20.06.2012, 18:25
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Re: Tubal ligation vs. vasectomy

God I wished that was my husband's problem!!


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I don't mean to scare anyone away from getting the ol' snippy snip, but...

A good friend of mine's husband had a vasectomy, and for whatever reason, he can't stand having his ____ touched ever since.
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Old 21.08.2012, 17:00
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My best friend had a vasectomy. He and his wife had two beautiful daughters and they decided to stop there. Other than some painful swelling all went well. Six months later, his wife was killed in a motor vehicle accident. Later he met someone and they started to talk about getting married. She did not have children and wanted one. The reversal procedure did not work. In the end the stress ended their marriage.

So think twice and assume that it is irreversible.
My sister is in the same situation - her (older) husband had a vasectomy after having two children in a previous marraige - now my sister will never have children with the man she loves...
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Old 21.08.2012, 17:59
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IVF using sperm harvested directly from his testicles? It's not as romantic as the traditional way, but possible.
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Old 21.08.2012, 18:22
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IVF using sperm harvested directly from his testicles? It's not as romantic as the traditional way, but possible.
I like how that comment suggests there's even a minuscule amount of romance in harvesting sperm directly from testicles.
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Old 21.08.2012, 19:12
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I like how that comment suggests there's even a minuscule amount of romance in harvesting sperm directly from testicles.
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it!
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Old 21.08.2012, 19:24
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My sister is in the same situation - her (older) husband had a vasectomy after having two children in a previous marraige - now my sister will never have children with the man she loves...
Same for one of my daughters - but what about the other way round. If a woman is sterilised, what if she re-marries??? Why is it always mentioned the other way round. If my OH said to me something like 'I know you've had 2 babies, two difficult births- but you can go and have GA to be sterilised - because, you know, I'm a bit squeamish, if if I leave you, or you die- I might want more kids' - I wouldn't be happy thank goodness I married a real man that I can truly respect.
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Old 21.08.2012, 19:38
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Same for one of my daughters - but what about the other way round. If a woman is sterilised, what if she re-marries??? Why is it always mentioned the other way round. If my OH said to me something like 'I know you've had 2 babies, two difficult births- but you can go and have GA to be sterilised - because, you know, I'm a bit squeamish, if if I leave you, or you die- I might want more kids' - I wouldn't be happy thank goodness I married a real man that I can truly respect.
So just so I understand this straight , is your definition of a "real man" one who is prepared to undergo a vasectomy for you ?

Do women also have to jump through the same hoop to qualify for your "real" seal of approval or is there some other definition you can enlighten us with ?
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Old 21.08.2012, 19:55
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Re: Tubal ligation vs. vasectomy

Somebody who believes that some sort of sharing is the norm in a loving relationship - eg if a woman has gone through a number or pregnancies, including an emergency ceasarian- then it would not be fair to ask her to go through another General Anaesthetic and fairly major op so that the couple can enjoy their sex life for the rest of their lives, without childbearing. A man who would think it is just common sense to have a minor op under a local anaesthetic and go home same day- rather than the alternative. A man who believes contraception is a joint responsibility- not just his wife's. Simple.

Many men just do expect women to have a tubal ligation/sterilisation as per 'normal'.

If neither wants to be sterilised- so then a lifetime of condom use or abstention?! The pill is dangerous over a lifetime- so no sensible husband would expect that- and many women do not want or can't wear a coil.
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Old 21.08.2012, 20:04
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Somebody who believes that some sort of sharing is the norm in a loving relationship - eg if a woman has gone through a number or pregnancies, including an emergency ceasarian- then it would not be fair to ask her to go through another General Anaesthetic and fairly major op so that the couple can enjoy their sex life for the rest of their lives, without childbearing. A man who would think it is just common sense to have a minor op under a local anaesthetic and go home same day- rather than the alternative. A man who believes contraception is a joint responsibility- not just his wife's. Simple.

Many men just do expect women to have a tubal ligation/sterilisation as per 'normal'.

If neither wants to be sterilised- so then a lifetime of condom use or abstention?! The pill is dangerous over a lifetime- so no sensible husband would expect that- and many women do not want or can't wear a coil.
Way to avoid the question...

My parents had 3 children , all planned and used natural contraception their whole lives.

I'm totally with you on sharing the responsibilities in any relationship but on this very same forum we have a case of a man who lost a testicle and has all kinds of medical issues as a result of what you describe as a "minor op".

Almost every woman I've dated used oral hormonal contraception until and during our relationships... I don't see why it should be the automatic choice for the male to undergo the snip rather than to use alternative means until the onset of menopause...

Please notice I did use the word "automatic" - since - as you describe - every relationship is different.

EDIT : I don't expect my wife to automatically undergo tubal litigation - that's plainly abhorrent - she is an independent person - capable of her own thought - it is up to her what she decides to do with her own body.
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OK I see what you mean. But if you look at stats, the risks involved in normal pregnancy and of course emergency ceasarian are large already. The risks of anything going wrong with a GA and tubal ligations, as compared to vasectomy, are way higher than the very rare complications with the latter- however unpleasant they may be.

The Pill is not a lifelong solution, as it has lots of risks attached too. Many women can't stand the coil. There are few if none good contraceptive solutions for a lifetime.
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Can't you just keep having babies and sell them to Madonna or something?
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Forget about the male/female thing. Just think about procedure and risks. A full operation with full anesthetics and several days in hospital, or a 20 mins with local anaesthetics and home and walking like John Wayne for a couple of days. No contest
This is what I said before. Just common sense and risk assessment (adding the fact that those women already went through the risks involved with oral contraception for years followed by several normal or complicated pregnancies/GA's, caesarians, etc. Again, no contest.
I'd expect my partner to be intelligent and caring enough to study and understand the issues - and respect him hugely for this.

A man who puts his intelligence, sensitivity and caring above his 'tackle'

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The Pill is not a lifelong solution, as it has lots of risks attached too. Many women can't stand the coil. There are few if none good contraceptive solutions for a lifetime.
Again I agree with you... I knew girls who destroyed their insides (and the water supply) with the pill but again it's not for a lifetime for a woman - it's from the moment she decides she wishes to forego having children until menopause.

Hey I'd LOVE to take a male contraceptive pill.

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Re: Tubal ligation vs. vasectomy

Well, I started taking the pill at 15 and was menopaused at 52 - take away 2 children - and that is far too long to be on the pill - pulmonary embolism, heart attacks, strokes in over 35s and increasing with age. Just too risky. And so is an IUD- which can cause heavy bleeding, pain and all sorts of other problems.
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Again I agree with you... I knew girls who destroyed their insides (and the water supply) with the pill but again it's not for a lifetime for a woman - it's from the moment she decides she wishes to forego having children until menopause.

Hey I'd LOVE to take a male contraceptive pill.

Thanks once again to Nil for continuing to troll me I knew you wouldn't forget me toots!
I am sorry Dear if you feel I am trolling you, I just couldn't agree less with your statement above! But you did make other great statements that I am always happy to thank!
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I am sorry Dear if you feel I am trolling you, I just couldn't agree less with your statement above! But you did make other great statements that I am always happy to thank!
Yup you don't troll me at all ....

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Anyhoo thanks for the personal info Odile , got to admire sincerity , but hopefully you came off the pill for some periods of time other than to have your kids - not to do that is unhealthy itself.
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