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Old 02.07.2012, 04:36
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Re: Stung by a bee

And yeah, like sashimiso said, another way to die from bee stings, without being allergic, is if you are stung by a whole mess of them.

Humans have a natural threshold of how many bees they can be stung with before they die. I think it's something in the 100s. Which is not outside the realm of possibility if say, your whacking a bee hive with a shovel.
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And yeah, like sashimiso said, another way to die from bee stings, without being allergic, is if you are stung by a whole mess of them.

Humans have a natural threshold of how many bees they can be stung with before they die. I think it's something in the 100s. Which is not outside the realm of possibility if say, your whacking a bee hive with a shovel.
Lol, I was only watering the lavander bushes, where they were eating. I asked them nicely to move somewhere else for a minute, and bitten is what I got.

A while later, it started to rain, so I felt a bit foolish while the back of my neck was hurting.

Still, I'll remember your tip about the shovel, thanks
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Old 02.07.2012, 08:54
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YIKES!

Well, I have been told that if anyone thinks that they MAY be allergic to bees, then they should keep an anti-histamine handy (e.g. something like Benadryl in the U.S.).

Personally, though, I wish people were allowed more access to carry Epi-pens.
On one of the hiking trips with my dogs a few summers ago, my one dog (a Lhasa Apso) started yelping. I looked back on the other side of a stream and he was in a yellow jacket nest. My wife, the other dog, and two of the others who were hiking ran. I went in. I picked him up and took him into the stream, there were maybe 10 or 15 bees on him at that time

(sidebar: yellow jackets keep stinging, they do not lose their stinger).

I probably had 5 or 10 on me hitting me. They were caught in his hair, one in his mouth, I was dunking him under the water, thinking just maybe they would release themselves. The water was deep (maybe a meter). It didn't help. So, I endured about 15 or 20 stings while I got them off of him and then ran further away carrying him.

The one guy who stayed back to help. he took a few hits as well. But, he was carrying Benadryl thankfully, as my dogs face was swelling up.

As I mentioned in my other post, I am not a Dr. nor do I play one on TV, but I put two and two together (ok, i don't remember what that adds up to) and gave him 1/2 of a tablet. I think that saved his life.

Moral of the story? Don't play with the bees, but if you do, bring something like Benadryl for some immediate care.
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Old 02.07.2012, 09:00
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Re: Stung by a bee

actually more people die from bee's than from snakes or scorpions...

http://historylist.wordpress.com/200...ed-by-animals/

http://www.v1news.com/page4/1/odds_o...s_of_dying.htm
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From a worldwide perspective, bee stings fatalities are not are not even a blip on the radar. Moquitos who transmit malaria kill millions every year.
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There does tend to be a hell of a lot more of them around.
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On one of the hiking trips with my dogs a few summers ago, my one dog (a Lhasa Apso) started yelping. I looked back on the other side of a stream and he was in a yellow jacket nest. My wife, the other dog, and two of the others who were hiking ran. I went in. I picked him up and took him into the stream, there were maybe 10 or 15 bees on him at that time

(sidebar: yellow jackets keep stinging, they do not lose their stinger).

I probably had 5 or 10 on me hitting me. They were caught in his hair, one in his mouth, I was dunking him under the water, thinking just maybe they would release themselves. The water was deep (maybe a meter). It didn't help. So, I endured about 15 or 20 stings while I got them off of him and then ran further away carrying him.

The one guy who stayed back to help. he took a few hits as well. But, he was carrying Benadryl thankfully, as my dogs face was swelling up.

As I mentioned in my other post, I am not a Dr. nor do I play one on TV, but I put two and two together (ok, i don't remember what that adds up to) and gave him 1/2 of a tablet. I think that saved his life.

Moral of the story? Don't play with the bees, but if you do, bring something like Benadryl for some immediate care.
Yellow jackets are wasps not bees.
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Old 02.07.2012, 12:29
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Did he look like this?

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Re: Stung by a bee

I heard somewhere it's not possible to be allergic to a bee/wasp sting after only one sting, sure enough it seems this is the case: "Because an allergic reaction involves antibodies formed during a previous exposure to an antigen, it is not possible to have an allergic reaction after the first sting." on this web site: http://www.koppert.com/pollination/b...and-allergies/ So, you need to be even more aware if you're stung a 2nd time
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I heard somewhere it's not possible to be allergic to a bee/wasp sting after only one sting, sure enough it seems this is the case: "Because an allergic reaction involves antibodies formed during a previous exposure to an antigen, it is not possible to have an allergic reaction after the first sting." on this web site: http://www.koppert.com/pollination/b...and-allergies/ So, you need to be even more aware if you're stung a 2nd time
Oh, I didn't know. Something to look forward to....

Thanks for the link , very interesting reading.

I found this particularly helpful:


2. How to prevent bumblebee stings
First of all, it is important to be CALM when working with bumblebees. Do not wave your arms at the bumblebees, bump the hive, etc. Also, be aware that bumblebees can react aggressively to smells such as alcohol, perspiration, perfumes, scented soaps, aftershave, and so on. Moreover, rings, bracelets and watches may cause aggressive behaviour (due to the scent of oxidised material between the skin and the jewellery). Remember, prevention is better than cure!
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If you were allergic you would go into an anaphylactic shock and this usually happens in seconds to minutes:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001847/


Many ppl have swelling, redness, tenderness, heat associated with bee sting. But this is not considered and allergy.

You will be fine I think
I have the feeling that OP was stung by a wasp, not a bee. Bees are rarely aggressive. And exactly my point too, if he was allergic he would go into a shock very soon after...it's probably the venom of a wasp that caused all the swelling and tenderness.
I got stung by a wasp many years ago and at night my arm was swelling and was hard as a rock (it seemed to me). Got fever too and went to the doctor next day, who still said it was OK and only if the fever doesn't go down I'd have to take some antibiotics...at the thought I was still going to survive I was better in no time...
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I have the feeling that OP was stung by a wasp, not a bee. Bees are rarely aggressive. And exactly my point too, if he was allergic he would go into a shock very soon after...it's probably the venom of a wasp that caused all the swelling and tenderness.
I got stung by a wasp many years ago and at night my arm was swelling and was hard as a rock (it seemed to me). Got fever too and went to the doctor next day, who still said it was OK and only if the fever doesn't go down I'd have to take some antibiotics...at the thought I was still going to survive I was better in no time...
I hope they listen to you, as I tried to say ages ago that bees are not aggressive but wasps are
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I have the feeling that OP was stung by a wasp, not a bee. Bees are rarely aggressive. And exactly my point too, if he was allergic he would go into a shock very soon after...it's probably the venom of a wasp that caused all the swelling and tenderness.
I got stung by a wasp many years ago and at night my arm was swelling and was hard as a rock (it seemed to me). Got fever too and went to the doctor next day, who still said it was OK and only if the fever doesn't go down I'd have to take some antibiotics...at the thought I was still going to survive I was better in no time...
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I hope they listen to you, as I tried to say ages ago that bees are not aggressive but wasps are
Guys, you might be right, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the bees I annoyed when I was watering the lavender they were having dinner from (despite the fact I did ask them to move to the next bush for a minute).

Anyhow, all useful tricks to live in peace with both bees and wasp are always welcome
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Guys, you might be right, but I'm pretty sure it was one of the bees I annoyed when I was watering the lavender they were having dinner from (despite the fact I did ask them to move to the next bush for a minute).

Anyhow, all useful tricks to live in peace with both bees and wasp are always welcome
You will never be able to live in peace with a wasp, because they are just evil barstewards
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You will never be able to live in peace with a wasp, because they are just evil barstewards
They must have some redeeming features ...

No, I can't think of any. Let me google it and I'll get back to you
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They must have some redeeming features ...

No, I can't think of any. Let me google it and I'll get back to you
They do have: They die at an early age!!
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Wasps

Wasps vs Bees


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Look what I found. It ain't much, but think about a good bbq without corn on the cob

You would be hard pressed to find many fans of wasps. Unlike their brethren the bee, they are widely reviled. While bees can sting too they also provide honey and there is something innately likeable about the bee and especially the bumblebee. The wasp, on the other hand, seems to have no redeeming features, the wasp comes across as a thoroughly unlikeable creature that is born to sting repetitively. It doesn’t help that most wasps are parasitoids, eating their hosts from the inside out when they are born. Not exactly an endearing trait.
However, its very nastiness is in fact its redeeming quality. Without wasps, humanity would be a in whole world of trouble. The wasp is an awesome predator, able to take down virtually every insect with its powerful sting and we owe it thanks for controlling all the pests that would otherwise destroy most of our crops. Take corn as an example. When certain species of corn become infested with caterpillars they actually emit a chemical concoction that attracts a species of wasp. The wasp comes along and takes out the caterpillar, allowing the corn to survive. Without the wasp, the corn would be done for. Wasps are a vital element of natural pest control themselves.
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That kind of sums it up
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