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Old 19.07.2012, 09:54
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Re: Can't find sunscreen that my child doesn't react to.

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My mother-in-law uses aloe vera before going into the sun instead of sunscreen. I can't vouch for it, but another natural option to try. Worse-case scenario it makes a nice lotion or after-sun.
In our case, Aloe Vera is one of the things that causes the rash
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Old 19.07.2012, 10:05
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In our case, Aloe Vera is one of the things that causes the rash
Direct from the plant or store bought?
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Old 19.07.2012, 10:34
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Re: Can't find sunscreen that my child doesn't react to.

A friend of mine has a daughter with very bad skin since birth. They tried this brand and it is the best! However, it is quite diffcult to buy this brand in Switzerland. I am using the adult version of this and I bought it always across the border.

Maybe the bigger apotheke around Zurich wiil have them



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Old 19.07.2012, 10:55
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Re: Can't find sunscreen that my child doesn't react to.

For those not buying the propaganda from the Sun screen makers I can recommend:

The Healing Sun

by Richard Hobday.

For the rest of you; just take a short moment to consider what putting a thick layer of chemicals on your childrens skin daily will do to your children in the long run....
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Old 19.07.2012, 11:29
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For the rest of you; just take a short moment to consider what putting a thick layer of chemicals on your childrens skin daily will do to your children in the long run....
I would like to point out that I do not advocate children wearing sunscreen every day. Yes, they also need some moderate sun exposure to ensure adequate production of vitamin D.

Actually, the skin is a poor absorber - and an excellent protector. The only thing that I can think of that actually penetrates the outer layers of the skin and is delivered to the blood stream is nicotine and hormone replacement therapy, and even then the dosage is not particularly reliable. I am glad the skin is such a wonderful protector, but if the skin could absorb things more easily, my son would not have to take insulin as injections into his muscle layer every day...

In Australia we have a campaign 'slip-slop-slap-wrap' - slip on a shirt, slop on a hat, slap on some sunscreen, and wrap on the sunglasses. I probably wear sunscreen here in Switzerland 10 times a year...because mostly I'm not outdoors long enough (and it's not high enough UV) to actually get burnt. In Australia I was part of a UV study and we got 'ultra high UV' readings thorughout the year, even in the semi-cloud and middle of winter. Australia has the highest rates of skin cancer in the world. Switzerland also has extremely high rates of skin cancer, but I'm not surprised, given the amount of people I see who severely damage their skin through extreme exposure (they don't call it 'tanning your hide' for nothing)...
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Old 19.07.2012, 11:39
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Re: Can't find sunscreen that my child doesn't react to.

I'm fishbelly white, burn in seconds, have a lot of moles, a family history of skin cancer and have enough ink in me to make any sun exposure uncomfortable... but I rarely wear sunblock.

Not that I have anything against it, I just avoid overexposure. I don't care for the scaremongering from the UV nannies any more than I care for the scaremongering from the granolas - all I care about is what my body is telling me.
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Actually, the skin is a poor absorber - and an excellent protector. The only thing that I can think of that actually penetrates the outer layers of the skin and is delivered to the blood stream is nicotine and hormone replacement therapy, and even then the dosage is not particularly reliable. I am glad the skin is such a wonderful protector, but if the skin could absorb things more easily, my son would not have to take insulin as injections into his muscle layer every day....
In the US some sunscreens (and lotions, shampoos, etc)have nanoparticles in them that allow the product in question to spread more easily, or not be so white like regular Titanium Dioxide, or penetrate the hair, or whatever, but the nano particles do get into the bloodstream, and their safety is being studied. also oxybenzone is an effective sunblock for UVA&UVB and i think it does gets into the bloodstream. it's effects are being studied as well.

please also remember that sunscreen needs to protect against UVA and UVB rays, until 1-2 years ago all sunscreens (in the US, don't know about here?) only intentionally protected against UVB (i think that is the one). you need to fine a 'broad spectrum' sunblock to be completely covered, and even those (again, in the US) are not regulated to make sure the chemicals used work for any significant period of time.
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We use ultrasun products.
http://www.ultrasun.co.uk/products

We have sensitive & fair, Celtic skin in the family and these products all work well. Although the marketing says 'Swiss made' I have never found it here & always buy it in the UK, airports, John Lewis or online.

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I came across this one too- it got some good reviews, but thought I'd try to find something available in Switzerland first if at all possible.
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Old 19.07.2012, 15:11
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I think I've tried practically every sunscreen available from the pharmacy and my 2 year-old gets a terrible skin reaction from all of them.
She also has eczema, so her skin is often pretty itchy and blotchy to start with. Her doctor had no suggestions, the pharmacy just wants to sell me the sunscreens made for sensitive skin (tried them already) and I've done a lot of googling and have only come up with a couple products that aren't available in CH.

Short of keeping her out of the sun at all times (impossible) and wearing longsleeves and pants (still need sunscreen for the face though), I just don't know what to do!

Has anyone ever had the same problem? Maybe there's some kind of sunscreen that I missed that might just be the one?

Thanks for any suggestions!
Chris
Just get her one of these (the hat not the Mexican).

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Old 19.07.2012, 15:13
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A friend of mine has a daughter with very bad skin since birth. They tried this brand and it is the best! However, it is quite diffcult to buy this brand in Switzerland. I am using the adult version of this and I bought it always across the border.

Maybe the bigger apotheke around Zurich wiil have them



This one worked well for us too (available at coop vitality pharmacies) for a while. I still use it on 2 of my kids- it goes on well, is not too thick and sticky, but the other 2 both started to react to it after a few months of use!
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Direct from the plant or store bought?
Both of them.
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Thank-you for the link about eczema. I'm kinda convinced it's related to something she's eating even though the doctor says it only has to do with dry skin and bacteria. It's very hard to figure out the culprit short of eliminating most foods and reintroducing them- very hard to do with a two-year-old!
When my eldest was about 12-18 months she had excema, that I thought was food related and the Dr's said probably wasn't. By watching the foods carefully i worked out what caused the excema to flare up, and eliminated them from her diet for a while.. It is difficult but it's possible. With her it was too much dairy (she could eat one baby sized yogurt in a day but anymore than that was trouble), or any brightly coloured fruit/veg. Things like strawberries, raspberries, cherries, peach, nectarine, tomatoes.......... caused an instant reaction. Everything was re-introduced one at a time, and she never had any excema again. So if you are convinced it is food, you are probably right rather than a Dr who sees her occaisionally.
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When my eldest was about 12-18 months she had excema, that I thought was food related and the Dr's said probably wasn't. By watching the foods carefully i worked out what caused the excema to flare up, and eliminated them from her diet for a while.. It is difficult but it's possible. With her it was too much dairy (she could eat one baby sized yogurt in a day but anymore than that was trouble), or any brightly coloured fruit/veg. Things like strawberries, raspberries, cherries, peach, nectarine, tomatoes.......... caused an instant reaction. Everything was re-introduced one at a time, and she never had any excema again. So if you are convinced it is food, you are probably right rather than a Dr who sees her occaisionally.
Good Luck
Ezcema is so elusive. It can be diet, it could be stress, an immune reaction to something in the environment (detergents), but it is definitely a sign that something is amiss somewhere. Many dr.'s do wave it off as untreatable, undiagnosable, or unpredictable. I disagree completely.

Another weird idea (i am full of them, re: the diaper post from today ), my son had eczema behind his knees, in his crotch, and in his elbows. I gave him extremely diluted bleach baths. It sounds weird but if there is microbial growth in the area (yeast?) bleach can kill it. I am talking a nice full bath with a big splash of bleach. Not even enough to really smell it. Kinda like a swimming pool. Many eczema sufferers will tell you swimming a pool helps them. Of course, my dr thought i was nuts and the fact that it went away when he had the baths and came back when he didn't had to be a coincidence, and many moms judged me as crazy. but it worked. no more itchy bleeding eczema was what was important to me....
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Re: Can't find sunscreen that my child doesn't react to.

Another thing not related to sunscreeen but might help your daughter.... my daughter also has very bad skin and we have bought her clothing made of silk which she wears to bed every night. The silk is supposed to help the skin breathe. My daughter's skin is definitely better since she started wearing this each night, but I honestly can't say if it's from the change in clothing or something else.

The clothing is very expensive, but basic health insurance will pay for 2 "sets" per annum if you have a prescription from your doctor.

http://www.allergycare.ch/
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Re: Can't find sunscreen that my child doesn't react to.

Did you ever try the Weleda products? You can find them in drugstores, are a bit expensive but good and usually safe for children. My kids have a sensitive skin, that was ok for them.
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