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Old 07.08.2012, 17:00
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Viburcol "medicine" for babies

I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with giving Viburcol to their babies.

I asked our pediatrician if he had any suggestions for our upcoming flight to the U.S., and he gave me this product (suppositories -- why do the Swiss like them so much? ). He said that it would help calm him down. I was hesitant to accept it, but figured I would only use it if needed during the flight.

I tried to research it online a bit first, and saw that it received really good reviews on amazon.com for helping with teething pain.

So I decided to do a "test" earlier today and gave it to my baby (almost 10 months old), because he was being unusually very fussy (probably due to teething), and I wanted to know how he would react to it -- rather than possibly using it for the first time during the actual flight. For the first hour or so after I gave it to him, he was very hyper and fussy. I started to worry that he was having an adverse reaction. But, again, he was being fussy even before I gave it to him. So I'm not entirely sure it was from the Viburcol.

Now, he is sound asleep in his crib -- and I keep checking in on him. But I also can't guarantee that he is asleep because of the Viburcol.

I guess this Viburcol stuff is homeopathic (the Swiss seem to be pretty big on that as well, though I myself am not so sure about it). The first few ingredients are: Atropa belladonna D4 1.1mg., Calcium carbonicum Hahnemanni D8 4.4mg, Chamomilla recuitia D4 1.1.mg.

Any shared experiences with this stuff would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 07.08.2012, 20:19
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

If it makes you feel better....

Just don't use the 'homeopathic' throat spray that contains 20% alcohol...
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Old 07.08.2012, 20:26
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Old 07.08.2012, 20:43
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

I can highly recommend you check out Similasan (brand) Homeopathic medicine for teething. You can get it at any pharmacy... Our little guy unfortunately had a realy rough time with teething and we ended up giving him the medicine sometimes every single night. We have also tried the netual green OSA gel, the medicinal red OSA gel, and teething necklaces. The only thing which really helped was the teething medicine (We also tried other brands and this one was the best) The label reads: Homöopathisches Arzneimmittel bei Zahnungsbeschwerden Globuli/Globules... Médicament homéopathiques en cas de Troubles de dentition
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

I wouldn't be using that stuff on a regular basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna
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I wouldn't be using that stuff on a regular basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna

It's homoeopathic therefore perfectly safe as the active ingredients in homoeopathic medicines are extremely diluted.
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

Sorry, but just because something is homeopathic does NOT mean it's perfectly safe.

Arsenic in very diluted doses would also be unhealthy and poisonous over an extended period of time. Hence my comment that I wouldn't use it on a regular basis.
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

Vibrucol is very good! When my baby was kind of 'nervous' (teething, changing environment, airplane...) Vibrucol helped us a lot. Baby is sleeping better, no side effects. Our Doctor and lady from Muterberatung gave us Vibrucol. Still have it!
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I wouldn't be using that stuff on a regular basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna
I don't plan to.

I know belladonna is poisonous in certain amounts, but so are most things. And if doctors really thought there was any risk from this particular product, I'm sure it would be off the shelf. Besides, I was only going to use it for the plane rides (apart from this one test run today).

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I can highly recommend you check out Similasan (brand) Homeopathic medicine for teething. You can get it at any pharmacy... Our little guy unfortunately had a realy rough time with teething and we ended up giving him the medicine sometimes every single night. We have also tried the netual green OSA gel, the medicinal red OSA gel, and teething necklaces. The only thing which really helped was the teething medicine (We also tried other brands and this one was the best) The label reads: Homöopathisches Arzneimmittel bei Zahnungsbeschwerden Globuli/Globules... Médicament homéopathiques en cas de Troubles de dentition
Thanks. Was it you that suggested that to me in a different thread a few weeks ago? I actually did end up buying some (the Apotheke worker even recommended it). We haven't tried it yet though. But I'm sure we will be soon, because his first tooth is starting to come through, so I have a feeling there is quite the "journey" ahead of us.
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...... (suppositories -- why do the Swiss like them so much? ).....
You should know by now, that the Swiss love nothing better, as long as it's a pain in the arse.
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Sorry, but just because something is homeopathic does NOT mean it's perfectly safe.

Arsenic in very diluted doses would also be unhealthy and poisonous over an extended period of time. Hence my comment that I wouldn't use it on a regular basis.
"Homeopathy" medicines are diluted to a point where it's usually impossible to detect any of the (alleged) active ingredient in the preparation - ie from a scientific point of view, all of these globuli are 100% lactose (or whatever filler is used). Many "traditional" western doctors cosider it to be as effective (or not) as a placebo.
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

Yeah, I also wondered that -- about the placebo effect. Seems strange that the placebo effect would work with a baby (though perhaps it could with the parents).

I think any doctor that gives something for a baby with the intent of placebo effect is a bit "off." If that's what my pediatrician was hoping for by giving me this Viburcol stuff, I'd have more respect for him if he had just suggested chamomile tea.
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Yeah, I also wondered that -- about the placebo effect. Seems strange that the placebo effect would work with a baby (though perhaps it could with the parents).

I think any doctor that gives something for a baby with the intent of placebo effect is a bit "off." If that's what my pediatrician was hoping for by giving me this Viburcol stuff, I'd have more respect for him if he had just suggested chamomile tea.
Well that's homeopathy for you. Homeopaths don't think of "their" medication as placebo, and I have ben prescribed homeopathy (with some success may I add, and I don't really care why, or how, I got better). As with acupuncture, nobody really knows.
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Old 07.08.2012, 23:06
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

Well, I definitely believe in "alternative medicine." If it never works, then our species probably would have died out by now since that's mostly what was used for the majority of mankind's existence (or at least there would be no Chinese left if it didn't work, and that certainly isn't the case).

It would be great if homeopathy really does work. I have no idea. But it's probably one of those things where sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, depending on that particular ailment and/or therapy.
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Thanks. Was it you that suggested that to me in a different thread a few weeks ago? I actually did end up buying some (the Apotheke worker even recommended it). We haven't tried it yet though. But I'm sure we will be soon, because his first tooth is starting to come through, so I have a feeling there is quite the "journey" ahead of us.
Yup, that was me I couldn't find the original post so I just posted something similar again. I really hope it helps Starting with 4 months old and ending just a few months after his 2 birthday. I seriously hope you don't have THAT journey as well!!!
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

If someone need Viburcol I have one full box!

http://www.englishforum.ch/sale-want...-5-chf-zh.html
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

oh oh ....... hope we`re not heading into one of those "homeopathic placebo effect" arguments again? Like religion - what works for one doesn`t neccessarily work for another

PS. I like that previous post about the Chinese - very true!

PPS. About the Chamomile. The Swiss take Chamomile for infections/fevers. For calmness/sleep they take Melissa teas.
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Re: Viburcol "medicine" for babies

I would stay away from anything that medicates a baby for flying. It's a passanger, pays his tix, it will be all fine if parents get ready and know what to do. To give a kiddo meds, be it placebo or not, is not fair, but it'st just my take on this..

I think it would be identical if you make a nice bottle of luke warm chamomile tea with a bit of honey, or if you nurse, anything drinking during take off/landing, babies are coping. Bring distractions to show, so baby can "work" and comfy clothes, since it gets chilly on the plane.

It's the ear pressure that hurts and being contrained, without simuli, that makes babies flip. I let my baby crowl around, touch stuff, brough a whole bag of toys, it worked, the best was a nursing neckless, it kept her super busy. Pens are cool, keys, little things. Not noisy stuff, since it is already noisy.
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Well, I definitely believe in "alternative medicine." If it never works, then our species probably would have died out by now since that's mostly what was used for the majority of mankind's existence (or at least there would be no Chinese left if it didn't work, and that certainly isn't the case).

It would be great if homeopathy really does work. I have no idea. But it's probably one of those things where sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, depending on that particular ailment and/or therapy.
Except homeopathy is a relatively new invention...

And doesn't work , but let's not start all that again eh?
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