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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

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Old 19.08.2012, 15:53
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With the limited traffic over there it's easy to find...........
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Old 19.08.2012, 15:57
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

If you had waited for his reply in that thread you would have seen the word BUPA mentioned

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On another forum a mod wrote "I want to go to the UK and do a health check, blood, scans whatever, check for cancer or diabetes"
I replied that I hoped he was not using the NHS as he was not entitled to do so being a Swiss resident except for emergencies.

I was surprised that I got a deleted post reason "Go away"
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Old 19.08.2012, 16:08
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If you had waited for his reply in that thread you would have seen the word BUPA mentioned
So why not just reply to my question, that he was going privately? Perhaps that brainwave to mention BUPA came after deleting my post, who knows!

Obviousely if he had answered my question rather than said 'Go away', I would not have started this thread.
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Old 19.08.2012, 16:12
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

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With the limited traffic over there it's easy to find...........
Apparently it's not coming up in a google search. Can someone pm the link
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Old 19.08.2012, 16:20
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Apparently it's not coming up in a google search. Can someone pm the link
i found it and would advise you not to waste your time. neither interesting, nor fun.
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

As the person mentioned is intending to use BUPA privately- it is not an issue imho. Pots, kettles and black come to mind though- about deleting a question + go away- but a different issue.

Nothing wrong however about discussing the basic question in the thread title. Brits resident in CH (or elsewhere) for tax purposes are not entitled to free NHS- irrespective of age, nationality, ownership of property in the UK, etc. Neither are they entitled to a free OAP bus pass - I applied last year and the conditions were absolutely clear (ie must be permanent resident in the Uk for tax purposes).
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Old 19.08.2012, 16:59
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

Maybe I am wrong, but I understood that BUPA were complementary to the NHS, and not 100% private, but they pay for additional "luxuries" like choice of surgeon and choice of bed. I also understood that BUPA only insure British residents, but maybe I am mistaken.

Maybe the famous Mod is not entitled to either?

ADDED Referenced to: https://www.bupa.co.uk/individuals/h...ess?getQuote=1

You should be resident in UK for past 6 months

Living in the UK - You (and your dependants) have been resident in the UK for more than 6 months and you all reside at the address provided.
Registration with a UK GP - You (and your dependants) have been registered with a UK GP for more than 6 months.

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Old 19.08.2012, 17:06
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

If you can pay BUPA don't care where you are from or what insurance you may or may not have, it's called BUPA on Demand. They also run fully private hospitals within the UK.

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Maybe I am wrong, but I understood that BUPA were complementary to the NHS, and not 100% private, but they pay for additional "luxuries" like choice of surgeon and choice of bed. I also understood that BUPA only insure British residents, but maybe I am mistaken.

Maybe the famous Mod is not entitled to either?
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Old 19.08.2012, 17:37
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If you can pay BUPA don't care where you are from or what insurance you may or may not have, it's called BUPA on Demand. They also run fully private hospitals within the UK.
Of course that's true. It still seems strange to me that the 'Mod' chose not to answer the question, but rather delete the question. Reminds me of the 'ministry of truth'
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

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This is what I received, cropped so the sender identy is hidden... You have not been banned there for reavealing the truth either!

power certainly goes to some peoples heads.
Its nothing to do with anyone if you get it done on NHS
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

Sorry Swans, don't understand your second line? Could you elaborate, please?
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Old 19.08.2012, 18:36
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

Not sure why there's so much anger against some tourists using the NHS. The UK gives billions of pounds in aid to countries around the world. What's a bit more in free healthcare to non British citizens?

It's not as if people in the UK are now starving to death and taxed to the hilt. They're not. The UK can afford it. Some people take the piss - some people also steal, kill and don't pay the right amount of taxes. That's life.

Surprised at the right wing views coming from some here. Non-UK tax payers, as well, most likely.
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

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He clearly thinks it's fine to illegally get treatment done in the UK for free, I am sure many people living in Spain have been doing exactly that with the purchasing power of the GBP droppining over the last 5 years.

Interesting thread Odile! now remind me what business did Swains work in....
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Old 19.08.2012, 18:51
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Not sure why there's so much anger against some tourists using the NHS. The UK gives billions of pounds in aid to countries around the world. What's a bit more in free healthcare to non British citizens?

It's not as if people in the UK are now starving to death and taxed to the hilt. They're not. The UK can afford it. Some people take the piss - some people also steal, kill and don't pay the right amount of taxes. That's life.

Surprised at the right wing views coming from some here. Non-UK tax payers, as well, most likely.
I suspect over my lifetime I will pay more tax in the UK than anywhere else, when I started working basic rate was 34% with a top rate of 83%, Geoffery How then reduced the basic rate to 30% & a top rate of 60% in 1979.
I am still on the hook for IHT at death, not sure I really want my taxes wasted.
The UK can't afford it, they are spending more than their income from tax.
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Adrian- that went straight through to the heart- right-wing indeed?

Come on - the NHS is for people who contribute to that system- and cannot treat the whole world. No other health system allows all and sundry to come and avail itself of its services without any contributions whatsoever. And in the meantime the services are being stream lined to the bone for those who have contributed all their lives. We did btw, and in more ways than one I can tell you - but we are still no longer allowed to use the NHS ourselves neither, despite this. So many people are not getting the treatment they need because the system is so stretched. Treating people who are not entitled to treatment under the NHS is costing millions (billions over the past 20 years- edited) which is taken straight out of the NHS pot, and not by extra funds. That is fact, not 'right-wing'. Sorry Adrian- I have huge respect for you, but this is *******ks.

may non British nationals are indeed entilted to NHS treatment, if they are ordinarily resident in the UK, for all sorts of reasons, and I've no problem with that. But health tourism in the UK is rife, with people giving relatives' addresses, etc, or attending casualty with severe pre-conditions already diagnosed in their own country. Most of the people who avail themselves of these services, including very expensive surgery and treatment, are not poor immigrants, but often rich ones exploiting the service. Fortunately most hospitals are now trying to cut down on this. It is after all a National Health Service, not an International one. If you nearest and dearest cannot access good treatment because the money in the pot has gone, despite contributing for decades- it hurts, and more. We have contributed all our lives and yet we are no longer entitled to NHS treatment unless it is an emergency - quite rightly, as we are now residents abroad. And yet others who have never contributed feel it is OK to abuse the service, and it si wrong. Switzerland could afford it a lot more, but try and do that here without health insurance!

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Billions of what? What type of research are you quoting? http://fullfact.org/factchecks/healt...hs_reform-2805
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

What was the question you asked?

It seems fine to me if someone is paying health insurance here and chooses to pay for other insurances and treatment elsewhere, that's their choice. It's hard to get out of paying insurance here.

I had my wisdom teeth removed in Holland, for example. But I never posted about it on a forum.....

Much Ado About Nothing, I say.
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I had my wisdom teeth removed in Holland, for example. But I never posted about it on a forum.....
Until now

I still have a UK dentist, but it's a private dentist so I don't see any problem with that...
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Until now

I still have a UK dentist, but it's a private dentist so I don't see any problem with that...
I paid in Gulden too!! Might have been before Internet!!
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