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Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

On another forum a mod wrote "I want to go to the UK and do a health check, blood, scans whatever, check for cancer or diabetes"
I replied that I hoped he was not using the NHS as he was not entitled to do so being a Swiss resident except for emergencies.

I was surprised that I got a deleted post reason "Go away"
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Old 19.08.2012, 13:21
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

Yes, 100000s of people take the NHS for a ride, and it makes my blood boil However, he said he was going to Bupa - so not the same as the NHS.

WE both have NHS exemption cards valid for many many more years, but wouldn't dream of using them to get free prescriptions. And we have paid into the system for 40+ years each. It is costing the NHS millions every year.
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Old 19.08.2012, 13:27
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

With luck the HM revenue will start to cross check people who claim to be 'non resident' & reassses them for UK taxes.
The person also offered to 'help me with a pension' by PM, another financial advisor on the prowl me thinks!
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

Doesn't say he is using NHS.

Without seeing your post and his pm reply it's hard to comment on either.
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Doesn't say he is using NHS.

Without seeing your post and his reply it's hard to comment on either.
He deleted my post without answering the question, not a good sign, it's not as if they have been 'scam free' forum now is it!

The response was the standard post deletion, as go away is written, seems reasonable to discuss it here.
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Old 19.08.2012, 13:38
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

Well, going back to the original point of this thread and without casting any aspersions to anyone here or there...

Whilst the blatant abuse of any country's health/welfare/eduation etc systems is annoying, it's down to the relevant governmental agencies and other responsible authorities to do all they can to prevent it.

Whilst loopholes exist, there are those who will always seek to exploit and take advantage of them and more fool that Government for allowing this to happen by not acting to stop it and F.A.S.T!

Just my 2 cents/rappen/pence...
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Agreed, at face value (without having seen your post) he would have been better to just do a reply in the thread.

Um, Is quite annoying when mods delete stuff for no reason... I've never been told to 'go away' whilst having a post deleted though...
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Well, going back to the original point of this thread and without casting any aspersions to anyone here or there...

Whilst the blatant abuse of any country's health/welfare/eduation etc systems is annoying, it's down to the relevant governmental agencies and other responsible authorities to do all they can to prevent it.

Whilst loopholes exist, there are those who will always seek to exploit and take advantage of them and more fool that Government for allowing this to happen by not acting to stop it and F.A.S.T!

Just my 2 cents/rappen/pence...


BTW your supposed to return your NHS card when you leave the UK, sure most people never did, or even know where their NHS card is!
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Whilst the blatant abuse of any country's health/welfare/eduation etc systems is annoying, it's down to the relevant governmental agencies and other responsible authorities to do all they can to prevent it.
Unfortunately in the UK most of them (bankers/politicians) are too interested in screwing the system for their own ends to care
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Agreed, at face value (without having seen your post) he would have been better to just do a reply in the thread.

Um, Is quite annoying when mods delete stuff for no reason... I've never been told to 'go away' whilst having a post deleted though...
This is what I received, cropped so the sender identy is hidden... You have not been banned there for reavealing the truth either!
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

You are also supposed to de-register with your GP.

So our super Mod must be Health Insured in CH- so why not get the battery of tests here? Because he has a high franchise, or because he does not trust the CH system? Or just being a bit 'Eco-nomical'?

Isha - so you are saying that stealing, robbing or driving at 200km per hour on normal road is OK, as long as you get away with it. I know many GPs who were regularly offered large bribes to get them to put foreign patients on their list and then refer for surgery on the NHS- jumping the queue ahead of locals who had waited many long months for their op. Scandalous, and some of you have no idea what goes on (: and I really hope the NHS will begin to put an end to this shame.
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

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So our super Mod must be Health Insured in CH- so why not get the battery of tests here? Because he has a high franchise, or because he does not trust the CH system?
Clearly he does not want to pay the franchise, seems very odd as he is not short of a penny!
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Old 19.08.2012, 13:53
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

I wonder what you object to more, the possible abuse of NHS or the way you feel you were treated by the mod. If the former, I wonder how you feel about those who scam (read take undue advantage of) the unemployment insurance year after year....
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This is what I received, cropped
Don't you mean cap'd?

I thought 'Go Away' was going to be something else...
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

In May of this year I was with my whole family in Stratford-upon-Avon for a long weekend visiting a niece and her husband. Unfortunately I (as an old man) had some trouble with my waterworks and had to find an sos doctor. My niece, who did the telephoning for me, just said 'my uncle, he's English, from Switzerland' and the whole wheel was set in motion. I went to a local hospital - no charge, and then to a chemist's - no charge - surprise, surprise. Apparently all British people over sixty (not foreigners) have all this 'free'. As I receive an old-age-pension from the UK I assume that I am OK with this, but I was astounded to learn that all this is at no cost. Just like in London as I saw later where buses and the tube are free for the over 60s.

By the way- I was very impressed with the NHS.
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Old 19.08.2012, 14:15
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

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Isha - so you are saying that stealing, robbing or driving at 200km per hour on normal road is OK, as long as you get away with it. I know many GPs who were regularly offered large bribes to get them to put foreign patients on their list and then refer for surgery on the NHS- jumping the queue ahead of locals who had waited many long months for their op. Scandalous, and some of you have no idea what goes on (: and I really hope the NHS will begin to put an end to this shame.
Kindly re-read my post and please do not attempt to put words into my virtual forum mouth!

I am on the side of closing whatever legal loopholes exist for such abuses to happen and that's in any country. F.A.S.T! It's not like the relevant agencies have no clue as to what's going on and, if they chose not to do anything about things for whatever reasons, then it serves them right when such loopholes get exploited. Just because I believe it serves them right does not equate for one milli-second to my believing it is right. OK?

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So our super Mod must be Health Insured in CH- so why not get the battery of tests here? Because he has a high franchise, or because he does not trust the CH system? Or just being a bit 'Eco-nomical'?
Instead of speculating as to the whys and what nots of said other forum Mod's situation, why not pose your questions directly to him? I believe you are a member of that forum too...

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In May of this year I was with my whole family in Stratford-upon-Avon for a long weekend visiting a niece and her husband. Unfortunately I (as an old man) had some trouble with my waterworks and had to find an sos doctor. My niece, who did the telephoning for me, just said 'my uncle, he's English, from Switzerland' and the whole wheel was set in motion. I went to a local hospital - no charge, and then to a chemist's - no charge - surprise, surprise. Apparently all British people over sixty (not foreigners) have all this 'free'. As I receive an old-age-pension from the UK I assume that I am OK with this, but I was astounded to learn that all this is at no cost. Just like in London as I saw later where buses and the tube are free for the over 60s.

By the way- I was very impressed with the NHS.
Being English has nothing to do with it. if you are resident in another country for tax purposes, you are not entitled to free NHS treatment and prescriptions- even if you still have property over there or if you receive a UK pension. Neither are you entitled to a free OAP bus pass. You are covered for emergencies as part of EHIC in Europe. You can't however use the NHS for a battery of tests or other non-emergency treatment. No problem though if you use BUPA and pay for it- as seems to be the case with the poster mentioned.

If FMF was told to 'go away' and post deleted, I am not sure it would be worth my while asking, would it? I have no problem with someone travelling to UK to use Private health services.
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Old 19.08.2012, 14:32
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I wonder what you object to more, the possible abuse of NHS or the way you feel you were treated by the mod. If the former, I wonder how you feel about those who scam (read take undue advantage of) the unemployment insurance year after year....
Abuse of the NHS, I hardly ever get any unemployment pay as most months I earn 100% of insured salary.
Most people on unemployment just sit & wait for a full time job, I do any work offered even if it's just 1 day 300km away from home. I still pay for unemployment insurance every month I work, just like you.
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Re: Swiss Resident Using NHS thoughts?

Sounds like a nice, polite forum. Any normal mod would have called you an ungrateful asshole(sic).
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This is what I received, cropped so the sender identy is hidden... You have not been banned there for reavealing the truth either!
what's the fun in not revealing the identity? do tell!
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