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Totally evil, I'd never give my daughter a Barbie. 19 29.23%
Meh. Who cares. 28 43.08%
No way, she's awesome! 18 27.69%
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Is Barbie evil? A poll...

Hi fellow EF members:

Please help me settle a quarrel with my husband. One of us thinks that Barbie, with her perpetually high-heel-molded feet and vapidly pink/purple accessories teaches girls to be shallow and limits their imagination to the world of wardrobe. One of us thinks that Barbie can be used as imaginatively as any other toy and that it is counterproductive to label "girly" toys as less suitable for play.

What do you think? Is Barbie an evil witch or just a girl looking for adventure?
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Hi fellow EF members:

Please help me settle a quarrel with my husband. One of us thinks that Barbie, with her perpetually high-heel-molded feet and vapidly pink/purple accessories teaches girls to be shallow and limits their imagination to the world of wardrobe. One of us thinks that Barbie can be used as imaginatively as any other toy and that it is counterproductive to label "girly" toys as less suitable for play.

What do you think? Is Barbie an evil witch or just a girl looking for adventure?
Its a bloody doll!! A toy Give me Chuckie anytime

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When I was a kid, GI Joe toys were the same size as Barbie. Ken never had a chance....
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I think you probably need to get out more and loosen husband Ken's lead a little too in the process ....
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I'm with the husband whatever he thinks!
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Mattel is based in El Segundo, (effectively LA), Ca.

It's not hard to see where the design inspiration came from.

Blame the shallow, mass appeal of real-life Californian Barbie bimbos.
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If I had a daughter, I'd give her a set of miniature tools, so she could learn to do something useful around the house, not a miniature blond bimbo
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If I had a daughter, I'd give her a set of miniature tools, so she could learn to do something useful around the house, not a miniature blond bimbo
I had barbie s when I was a little girl. I got my tool box from my dad when I left home and I am the one who fix things in the house.

I blame the fashion magazine for my great insatisfaction toward my body image, not a doll.
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Barbie has had so many personas. From Vet to Airline pilot. She is a great inspiration to young people the world over that you can achieve anything you put your mind to. Even in high heels.
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When I was a kid, GI Joe toys were the same size as Barbie. Ken never had a chance....
I had GI Joe as a kid, but I think he was quite a bit smaller than Barbie. He did love bombing the dream house, though...
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I never had a barbie,but i always thought she had ugly feet. Like anything, it can be good or bad, but, if young girls focus on Barbie as an appearance ideal, it's a big problem. I think a real Barbie would be more than 6 feet tall with a bmi around 16. Plus those feet...can't balance those boobs on those tiny feet.

If you balance out the toys, legos, games, tools, art then Barbie's ok, as long as your kid realizes she's not a realistic representation of a person, and your kid shouldn't compare her looks to barbie.
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I never had a barbie,but i always thought she had ugly feet. Like anything, it can be good or bad, but, if young girls focus on Barbie as an appearance ideal, it's a big problem. I think a real Barbie would be more than 6 feet tall with a bmi around 16. Plus those feet...can't balance those boobs on those tiny feet.

If you balance out the toys, legos, games, tools, art then Barbie's ok, as long as your kid realizes she's not a realistic representation of a person, and your kid shouldn't compare her looks to barbie.
I'm not sure her BMI would be too tiny, I imagine those jugs are pretty heavy.
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I'm not sure her BMI would be too tiny, I imagine those jugs are pretty heavy.
Nope.

If Barbie were 69 inches tall, she'd weight 110 lbs, BMI less than 17.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the...body-image.htm

I've seen other stats where she's taller too.
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On the surface we see this...




But scratch the surface and the true Barbie reveals herself...

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Now, back to reality...

A man walks into the toy store to get a Barbie doll for his daughter. So he asks the assistant, as you would, "How much is Barbie?"

"Well," she says, "we have Barbie Goes to the Gym for $19.95, Barbie Goes to the Ball for $19.95, Barbie Goes Shopping for $19.95, Barbie Goes to the Beach for $19.95, Barbie Goes Nightclubbing for $19.95, and Divorced Barbie for $265.00."

"Hey, hang on," the guy asks, "why is Divorced Barbie $265.00 when all the others are only $19.95?"

"Yeah, well, it's like this ... Divorced Barbie comes with Ken's house, Ken's car, Ken's boat, Ken's furniture ..."

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The problem is you cannot keep your household barbie free if you have a daugther of a certain age. The friends have them, and there is always a grandmother or godmother who thinks it would be wonderful to have barbies to play with.
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The one Barbie I had, I spent years making miniature historical outfits from images I got from history books and castles we went to. Mom rippin my inaccuracies apart made me good at sewing and needlecraft, so yeah, you can learn some useful stuff with Barbies, come on.

Give a Barbie to a kid in 3rd world, they will love to play with it, without having some major body image and self esteem problems. It's the culture and society, that makes the kiddo fall for wrong priorities, not the doll itself.

My kid got one Barbie, and it was a gift. I always pushed for her having only one toy of one sort, so she gets attached and treats it well, like a mommy. And then there came a giant bag of old Barbies from cousins, half of them naked..Forget it. Controlling something like that will make your child go and buy it for her first pocket money and obsess even more. Just play with your kiddo, pay attention, role play, make some comments about waste line, if you wish, but it's just a piece of plastic, after all. No need to panic. Your kid will remember you playing with her, not the Barbie itself.
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Ah, yes, the Barbie dilema...

When one of my young nieces begged for a Barbie, my determination to promote healthy female role models seriously clashed with my need to indulge the child.

So I debated between the various 'acceptable' dolls: Doctor Barbie, Paratrooper Barbie, US President Barbie, Vet Barbie, Firefighter Barbie, Astronaut Barbie, Sign Language Teacher Barbie... ultimately settling on Paleontologist Barbie, visions of my niece the renown scientist dancing in my head...

But the road to hell is paved with good intentions. By the next day Barbie had ditched her field gear and was to be found sporting a sparkly gown waiting for Prince Ken to call and ask her to the ball.

The same child is now looking at universities, trying to decide between physics, engineering and... media studies. I fear the latter is her first choice.

I blame Barbie, and I blame myself. Give 'em an inch...
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The one Barbie I had, I spent years making miniature historical outfits from images I got from history books and castles we went to. Mom rippin my inaccuracies apart made me good at sewing and needlecraft, so yeah, you can learn some useful stuff with Barbies, come on.

Give a Barbie to a kid in 3rd world, they will love to play with it, without having some major body image and self esteem problems. It's the culture and society, that makes the kiddo fall for wrong priorities, not the doll itself.

My kid got one Barbie, and it was a gift. I always pushed for her having only one toy of one sort, so she gets attached and treats it well, like a mommy. And then there came a giant bag of old Barbies from cousins, half of them naked..Forget it. Controlling something like that will make your child go and buy it for her first pocket money and obsess even more. Just play with your kiddo, pay attention, role play, make some comments about waste line, if you wish, but it's just a piece of plastic, after all. No need to panic. Your kid will remember you playing with her, not the Barbie itself.

Fair enough, when you put it that way.

When I was a kid, I wanted a train set, not some silly dolls, but never got one.

I'm still dealing with the trauma
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