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Legal Advice needed

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I have been living in switzerland for 6 months now, when I moved here I moved in with my husband to his fathers block. The man has been quite rude to me and at times has even made sexual advances at me, so when I recently put him in his place he decided to be even more spiteful then before and has told my husband that he wants to sue me for unpaid rent and a part of a deposit which he verbally agreed we did not have to pay. He told my husband that he wants to sue me only though the apartment contract is in both of our names, I desperately need advice weather he could do this and what my rights are or if i could counter sue him for discrimination or whatever to protect myself.


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Re: Legal Advice needed

There was a very, very, similar story on the Forum about 12 months ago.

The best advice I can give you, is to persuade your husband to move out with you. He can't sue just yourself can he?
He sounds like an ill-informed bully. Get away from him as soon as possible.
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We are in the process of moving and I think that this is another reason why he is threatening to sue. He will no longer have any control. at the same time can he just sue me and make me go through this hell?
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Hello,
I have been living in switzerland for 6 months now, when I moved here I moved in with my husband to his fathers block. The man has been quite rude to me and at times has even made sexual advances at me, so when I recently put him in his place he decided to be even more spiteful then before and has told my husband that he wants to sue me for unpaid rent and a part of a deposit which he verbally agreed we did not have to pay. He told my husband that he wants to sue me only though the apartment contract is in both of our names, I desperately need advice weather he could do this and what my rights are or if i could counter sue him for discrimination or whatever to protect myself.


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How is your husband reacting to all of this? What is his view on his father's behaviour?
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We are in the process of moving and I think that this is another reason why he is threatening to sue. He will no longer have any control. at the same time can he just sue me and make me go through this hell?
Did you not pay the rent? Or what exactly is the problem? What a bully!
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Re: Legal Advice needed

He is very upset about the situation though he is not surprised, his father hasn't been there for him much his whole life so he was very happy when his dad offered to help us when we moved. you can imagine his disappointment now.


We did pay the rent except for one moth he offered as a gift for Christmas.
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How is your husband reacting to all of this? What is his view on his father's behaviour?
Yes, that would make the story a bit clearer. Anyway, your husband is co-responsible for any debts you cannot pay. Is the old guy going to sue his son? Sounds insane.

Personally, I rather think the old guy is just one of those "I`m going to sue you" sorts, and doesn`t have any inkling of what is involved.
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Re: Legal Advice needed

He is quite a spiteful person so I wouldn't put it passed him to go through with the threat.
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Re: Legal Advice needed

I am quite sure it cannot work against you - if he wanted a deposit paid, and you didn't pay it, he should never have given you the keys

You could go to the tenant advice service, to check your rights (is there a written lease ?) - but don't worry, and get out of there ASAP.

Assuming you have a written lease that is to all intents and purposes legal, then he has very little power.

As others have said - what is your husband doing to stick up for you - and how quickly can you get out of there ?

I'm sure once you are out of his reach, it will calm down. Once you are in your own space again, you will probably be quite angry with yourself about what you tolerated and experienced in such a crappy situation - but be kind to yourself and hopefully your husband comes good with supporting you and putting some protective boundaries in place.

And yes, I also seem to remember an almost identical story on the forum a while back....
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He is very upset about the situation though he is not surprised, his father hasn't been there for him much his whole life so he was very happy when his dad offered to help us when we moved. you can imagine his disappointment now.


We did pay the rent except for one moth he offered as a gift for Christmas.
Maybe it really was a gift? (Because "gift" in German means poison)
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Re: Legal Advice needed

Thanks for that, I haven't laughed all day.
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Re: Legal Advice needed

Does your husband have an opinion about the improper behaviour point you made in your OP? How did your husband respond, when his father said he wanted to sue you? Does your husband's father know you are leaving? How soon can you leave?
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Re: Legal Advice needed

He is was really pissed off and is still pissed off. when his dad told him this he apparently told him he would end all relationship with him for good.
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also, yes he knows we are leaving he has known since a week after the confrontation and just a few days after was when he started threatening a lawsuit.
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Re: Legal Advice needed

It may be a little late, but if you don't have legal insurance, asap might be the best time to get some. I say it's late, because most policies disallow legal controversies that pre-exist the policy, and in fact have a 90-day 'probationary period' during which coverage is very limited and narrowly defined.

Even so, it could behoove you to have it, as getting it now may pay off later.
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Re: Legal Advice needed

It's been about 1 day since I found out, my husband did not tell me about this until today. Apparently he has been trying to spare me the stress, so I guess the question is how late is late to get Legal Insurance and does my apartment insurance maybe include this?
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I am quite sure it cannot work against you - if he wanted a deposit paid, and you didn't pay it, he should never have given you the keys

You could go to the tenant advice service, to check your rights (is there a written lease ?) - but don't worry, and get out of there ASAP.

Assuming you have a written lease that is to all intents and purposes legal, then he has very little power.

As others have said - what is your husband doing to stick up for you - and how quickly can you get out of there ?

I'm sure once you are out of his reach, it will calm down. Once you are in your own space again, you will probably be quite angry with yourself about what you tolerated and experienced in such a crappy situation - but be kind to yourself and hopefully your husband comes good with supporting you and putting some protective boundaries in place.

And yes, I also seem to remember an almost identical story on the forum a while back....
Sweetpea, My Husband is being very supportive and protective. As you can imagine this is a very difficult situation for him to be in since it's his father and I am his wife. He supports me 100% and is backs me up, he is the one that suggested to move and found us a place within a week of the altercation, but unfortunately our move is not till the end of this month. Thank you for the advice!!!!
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...so I guess the question is how late is late to get Legal Insurance and does my apartment insurance maybe include this?
Apartment insurance does not include legal insurance.

In my opinion, buying legal insurance now would: 1) potentially provide assistance/protection, should future legal conflicts arise, and 2) be available to you if your father-in-law waits more than 90 days after you bought the insurance to register his lawsuit. In that case, if he does not have legal insurance and you do, the risk on his side is huge, but yours is nominal. So it could be a deterrent.
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Re: Legal Advice needed

What a horrible situation.. But sounds like, without seeing any legal contracts etc that you just need to lie low for a little while, ignore the old boy and try forget about the threats and then get out. They probably are just spiteful threats because he doesn't like you for whatever reason.

I know you say you husband is doing everything he can to protect you.. But if I was a psychologist and not a computer guy, I'd say the old boy has some kind of jealousy against you because you've taken his boy.. Maybe a quiet word from son to father stating quite clearly that unless he plays ball, they will never see each other again would help. Or a showdown with all of you saying the same.

Whatever, I doubt very much there is anything legal he can do against you individually or jointly.
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