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before i sit in the germy aluminum tube.
The aircraft may be the least risky place to sit on your journey. Many people get sick when the travel, and blame the airplane. But you are more likely to catch a bug while standing in endless queues or on public transport to/from the airport.

When travelling be aware of what you are touching (like that barrier in the security queue) and remember to wash your hands repeatedly. Try and avoid touching your face with your hands (nearly impossible). Use alcohol based hand cleaners (No, don't drink it.) and carry towelettes to clean your tray.

On the aircraft they use high quality HEPA filters that are fine enough to filter viruses. The air movement is lateral, from the centre of the aircraft to the windows. This means that you are susceptible to the viruses of the lady beside you, that guy with a sneezing fit 10 rows back will not affect you. About +/- two rows is your danger area.

Oh, and if you have a cold or the flu wear a mask. (Available in Migros, Coop and pharmacies). The rest of us will thank you.
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The aircraft may be the least risky place to sit on your journey. Many people get sick when the travel, and blame the airplane. But you are more likely to catch a bug while standing in endless queues or on public transport to/from the airport.

When travelling be aware of what you are touching (like that barrier in the security queue) and remember to wash your hands repeatedly. Try and avoid touching your face with your hands (nearly impossible). Use alcohol based hand cleaners (No, don't drink it.) and carry towelettes to clean your tray.

On the aircraft they use high quality HEPA filters that are fine enough to filter viruses. The air movement is lateral, from the centre of the aircraft to the windows. This means that you are susceptible to the viruses of the lady beside you, that guy with a sneezing fit 10 rows back will not affect you. About +/- two rows is your danger area.

Oh, and if you have a cold or the flu wear a mask. (Available in Migros, Coop and pharmacies). The rest of us will thank you.
Disagree. It's not the airborne stuff that's high risk on a plane, it's the things you touch still. The armrests and seat backs you touch are the germ fears, just like on public transport. That's why they focus on the seating plan when something nasty might have been transmitted on a plane, will only go a few seats or rows
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National Flu Vaccination Day 2014

Flu Vaccination Day is on 7 November 2014.

Link: http://www.vaccinateagainsttheflu.ch...ftag-2014.html
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Re: Flu shots?

Are flu shots that effective for travelling abroad, especially on other continent? I was under the impression that flu shots were aimed at the 'local' flu type. Could anyone clarify, thanks?
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Are flu shots that effective for travelling abroad, especially on other continent? I was under the impression that flu shots were aimed at the 'local' flu type. Could anyone clarify, thanks?
The shots differ slightly for the northern and southern hemisphere, since there is a timeline shift in administration of the shots, but other than that it is pretty much global.
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Re: Flu shots?

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For those that have had a flu jab in the past, did you experience any side effects? If so, would you still recommend the jab? Or how severe were the side effects?
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Old 16.10.2014, 10:36
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Re: Flu shots?

http://zug4you.ch/federal_office_of_...injection.html

Here is a link to the zug4you web site that translated local news. 7th Nov is the official date in Switzerland to turn up at your doctors office and for a flat rate of 30chf you can receive the vaccine.

Reactions - for me having the jab via work for the past 5 years, a slightly sore arm the next day. otherwise all good and no flu over the winter months.
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Old 16.10.2014, 10:44
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Hi Folks,
For those that have had a flu jab in the past, did you experience any side effects? If so, would you still recommend the jab? Or how severe were the side effects?
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I have the flu jab regularly as my employer provides it free of charge. I have never experienced any side-effects, not even pain or swelling at the injection site.
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My experience is the same as PaddyG - no side effects, no discomfort or pain. And (touch wood) no flu!
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The shots differ slightly for the northern and southern hemisphere, since there is a timeline shift in administration of the shots, but other than that it is pretty much global.
This is more or less correct.
The WHO meets every year to decide the influenza shot composition for the forthcoming year. It is always a trivalent vaccine to protect against the most prevalent expected strains for the northern and southern hemispheres (an A H1N1, an A H3N2 and a B strain). They might vary slightly or could be identical. For example, the A H1N1 strain is the same for N and S hemispheres, but the A H3N2 and B strains are different.
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Re: Flu shots?

I had the nasal spray shot last October and it is a live but attenuated virus. My sinuses felt like I had the virus for a week. It was horrible... And in january I caught the real flu so it was all for nothing.

The best thing to do is to eat healthy, take immunity support vitamins and reduce instances that weaken your immune system like exposure to the cold, alcohol etc...
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Re: Flu shots?

Last time I had a flu jab a few years back the symptoms were minor, bit of a fever, aches and soreness, redness where the shot was given.
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Re: Flu shots?

this case always travels via email around the office at the time of the annual flu shot

http://articles.mcall.com/2014-06-10...urers-flu-shot
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i had the nasal spray shot last october and it is a live but attenuated virus. My sinuses felt like i had the virus for a week. It was horrible... And in january i caught the real flu so it was all for nothing.

The best thing to do is to take the available tri-valent flu jab.
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I had the nasal spray shot last October and it is a live but attenuated virus. My sinuses felt like I had the virus for a week. It was horrible... And in january I caught the real flu so it was all for nothing.

The best thing to do is to eat healthy, take immunity support vitamins and reduce instances that weaken your immune system like exposure to the cold, alcohol etc...
Keep in mind, we don't all do it for ourselves. If you happen to live with someone that is in a high risk group, it's best to get the vaccine for their sake because the effectiveness of the vaccine is lower for those at high risk due to immune suppression.
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Keep in mind, we don't all do it for ourselves. If you happen to live with someone that is in a high risk group, it's best to get the vaccine for their sake because the effectiveness of the vaccine is lower for those at high risk due to immune suppression.

Actually, if you live with someone who is high risk you probably shouldn't get the flu shot as it sheds.
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Actually, if you live with someone who is high risk you probably shouldn't get the flu shot as it sheds.
Could you clarify that please. Links???
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Actually, if you live with someone who is high risk you probably shouldn't get the flu shot as it sheds.
JanerMacP means that people who are high risk (or those who are in close contact with high-risk people) should not have the nasal flu spray version of the vaccine, which contains live, attenuated (weakened) virus. These people are absolutely encouraged to be vaccinated, but using the traditional flu shot. The traditional flu shot is not made of attenuated virus, but from killed virus, which cannot reproduce or shed.

Here is one source that discusses this:

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/whosh...tm#nasal-spray
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Re: Flu shots?

The only time I got the flu in the past 10 years was the only season I got vaccinated. Go figure.


Some key facts about vaccine:

- Very few Swiss get vaccinated. Decreasing trend
- AFAIK vaccination (any vaccine) is not mandatory in most Swiss cantons
- In France, the number of people who get vaccinated is in free fall
- It's recommended to get the flu shot if you are 65 or older or if you have a chronic medical condition
- Flu vaccine is nowhere near 100% effective (effectiveness: less than 70%):

Influenza Outbreak in a Vaccinated Population — USS Ardent, February 2014

In Feb 2014, there was an outbreak of influenza-like illness among American sailors despite the fact that 99% of American servicemen had gotten the flu shot.
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JanerMacP means that people who are high risk (or those who are in close contact with high-risk people) should not have the nasal flu spray version of the vaccine, which contains live, attenuated (weakened) virus. These people are absolutely encouraged to be vaccinated, but using the traditional flu shot. The traditional flu shot is not made of attenuated virus, but from killed virus, which cannot reproduce or shed.

Here is one source that discusses this:

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/whosh...tm#nasal-spray
Rest assured, the attenuated nasal vaccine is not available in Switzerland.

And yes, it sucks to feel lousy for a few days.. the cost/benefit ratio is worth it for me.
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