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Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

Does anyone know where can I find all-organic hair products and what brands really do natural products?

I have spent a lot of time at the Reform houses and Drogeries nearby & have tried a couple of products so far by Weleda, Lagona and Sante. It's surprising how many 'natural' brands' have all the nasty toxic chemicals in them as well. I read about a brand called John Masters but haven't seen it here, so wondering where to find it.

If anyone has any knowledge about this, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old 18.10.2013, 14:03
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

Lush in Zürich probably do them.
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

Thanks. I just had a look at the Lush website. The shampoos are full of chemicals but there are natural henna hair colours. Unfortunately they need to be made up from blocks. Looks very messy...
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

What chemicals are you trying to avoid?
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

Anything SLS or SLES, 1'4 dioxane, paraben, Laureth, Lauryl, sulphate, silicone related.
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

It is really difficult to find any product without them all. You can find some without SLS or some without paraben but not easy to find without both. You may have to do a lot of label reading or pick which of the nasties you most want to go without and put up with the others. Some mainstream brands like L'Oreal are now producing sulphate free lines so hopefully it will become easier to find the kind of products you are looking for in the future.

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Does anyone know where can I find all-organic hair products and what brands really do natural products?

I have spent a lot of time at the Reform houses and Drogeries nearby & have tried a couple of products so far by Weleda, Lagona and Sante. It's surprising how many 'natural' brands' have all the nasty toxic chemicals in them as well. I read about a brand called John Masters but haven't seen it here, so wondering where to find it.

If anyone has any knowledge about this, I would greatly appreciate it.
Naturismo.com is great ,they are in uk but delivery is totally free.They also sell John Masters ,which i use ,i can also recommend other chemical free stuff if you need ,like make up .Been researching for the past year .
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

I just looked on the John Masters website and they have the products in Germany. I also noticed that they're also not entirely chemical free - the shampoo I looked at contains sodium benzoate which I thought was a nasty that the organic users liked to avoid?
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i can also recommend other chemical free stuff if you need ,like make up .
That would be great! It also interests me as to which makeups are the most natural, however I just thought I'd look at hair products first.
Are they products available here?

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Yes some seem to be more natural than others.
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That would be great! It also interests me as to which makeups are the most natural, however I just thought I'd look at hair products first.
Are they products available here?
As far as hair conditioner ,the best thing i have tried is organic cold pressed coconut oil .You can buy this here in health food stores ,altho i ordered that from uk too,because for a huge jar it works out about 15 pounds cheeper,and it last you forever .I use it instead of body cream too,and as make up remover .Dr hauschka and Caudalie are great for face creams. I think you can get those here easy .And as far as make up .the purest there is is RMS beauty and Zuii organics ,made from flowers .Zuii is Australian brand ,but will ship you samples if you want to test out shades.
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

Check out Osme. These are cosmetics certified by Ecocert.
On this website you'll find description in German and, at its bottom, a brochure for download. It's in English, German, French and Italian.
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Naturismo.com is great ,they are in uk but delivery is totally free.They also sell John Masters ,which i use ,i can also recommend other chemical free stuff if you need ,like make up .Been researching for the past year .
I use naturisimo.co.uk too. Such a big choise of everything.
Faith in Nature shampoos are classically favoured by people who choose organics. They quite ok for me. Almost everybody I know love John Masters. And even if they use that chemical you mentioned, this is much softer than SLS, because their policy, as far as I know to do as natural products, as possible.
Also tried A'kin, not impressed.
Dr.Haushka does shampoos too, I think. You can find it anywhere.
But generally I was surprised how little organic cosmetics Switzeland, at least its french part, has with all their love for bio.
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Does anyone know where can I find all-organic hair products and what brands really do natural products?.
I don't think the following are totally organic, but I use products by Aveda and Korres - both of whom claim to be rather conscious about this.
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

I just found out that there are also Weleda hair products:
http://www.weleda.ch/de/kosmetik/neu-haarpflege/
I don't know about them but usually I like Weleda products.

For cosmetics I can recommend http://www.dr.hauschka.com/de_CH/produkte/
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

The last time I looked, The Body Shop hair products aren't bad. Though I wonder what the takeover by L'Oreal has done to their ingredients...
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Anything SLS or SLES, 1'4 dioxane, paraben, Laureth, Lauryl, sulphate, silicone related.
Why do you object to these, in particular? The Weleda products that I just checked contain sugar esters, which may sound more natural, but they are made in a chemical factory just like SLS (= sodium lauryl sulphate) and SLES (= sodium laureth sulphate).
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

Have you considered making your own shampoo?

According to natural product gurus, mixing coconut milk, fine quality olive/coconut oil, lemon zest, egg yolk and vinegar is what most "supernatural" product manufacturers do anyways. And then sell you triple price.

This mixture can go bad quickly. Therefore they either have to put conservatives or extra amount of vinegar in which will make it smell, ehm, less attractive - or then again, substances you dislike.

Some "chemicals" though, like sulfath can be derived from plants and that is why you will find them on the labels of even organic products. (It will be indicated it comes from a plant.) You will really need to make up your mind on how organic you want to be, because you cannot expect a good smelling "shampoo feeling"' product with 0 chemistry in it - a completely natural shampoo will always be like a sticky mixture of oils and eggs and fruits. Which is something again that you can do yourselves.
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Re: Where can I find All Organic Hair products?

It is indeed difficult to find a shampoo that is all natural even from well knows brands that claim this.
I use different shampoos as I have a weird scalp and hair but for the moment I am using a hair powder- shikakai.
It suds up just a bit and cleans the hair very well.
But I have dry hair and oily scalp and it dries the hair. So I have to moisturise my hair. I use this powder just from time to time.
I hate Olive oil in my hair, hands, salads so i don't use it for my hair. I do put a bit of Macadamia oil in my hair and my hair is so nice and soft.
I 've also noticed the EverPure from L'Oreal but didn't try because I don't think it is going to deliver for my weird hair. The reviews are not so good. Plus it has other chemicals in it so why bother?
LUSH is just terrible honestly. The stink when you pass by a LUSH store is not natural. I did try some products a while ago but luckily I soon realised they are cr@p.
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Have you considered making your own shampoo?

According to natural product gurus, mixing coconut milk, fine quality olive/coconut oil, lemon zest, egg yolk and vinegar is what most "supernatural" product manufacturers do anyways. And then sell you triple price.

This mixture can go bad quickly. Therefore they either have to put conservatives or extra amount of vinegar in which will make it smell, ehm, less attractive - or then again, substances you dislike.

Some "chemicals" though, like sulfath can be derived from plants and that is why you will find them on the labels of even organic products. (It will be indicated it comes from a plant.) You will really need to make up your mind on how organic you want to be, because you cannot expect a good smelling "shampoo feeling"' product with 0 chemistry in it - a completely natural shampoo will always be like a sticky mixture of oils and eggs and fruits. Which is something again that you can do yourselves.
If you want advice on how to do this, I'm the right person to help. Your version uses egg yolk because it contains the emulsifier lecithin. However, egg is not plant-derived, so it would be better if you used soya lecithin (non-GMO, of course); but don't expect much foam. Vinegar can be replaced by any fruit acid, e.g. tartaric or citric - no bad smell with these. As you say, the aim is to make the product acid enough to prevent bacteria growing. Other things can still grow under acid conditions, so keep your shampoo in the fridge. Adding glycerol as a preservative (15%) is another possibility, but that is usually derived from animal sources, I believe.

The cleaning performance of this product will be poor, because lecithin is not a good emulsifier under these conditions. All the oil will make the hair shiny, but it might leave the hair greasy.

So, it's a fascinating challenge. Tell me how it goes .

By "sulfath" do you mean laureth sulfate = SLES? I'm surprised that the "eth" (= ethylene oxide = CH2CH2O) can be plant derived. Never underestimate the marketing skills of cosmetic companies .
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