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Hello Kitty 14.01.2014 20:54

Excellent counselling in Zurich (psychotherapy)
 
This is an experience I would like to share:
I have been looking for a good english-speaking counsellor for me and my husband (we have been going through rough times and were facing serious relationship problems). It was almost impossible to find qualified english-speaking therapists!
A friend told me about the Klaus-Grawe-Institute in Zurich. They have english-speaking excellent counsellors specialized in cognitive-behavioral therapy, also for individuals and families. We felt extremely well taken care of and could finally get support in solving our marital problems.
Excellent service, highly qualified and experienced therapists!!

Sean Connery 14.01.2014 20:55

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nice first post.

IzabelaInZug 15.01.2014 01:25

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Originally Posted by Sean Connery (Post 2063002)
nice first post.

Not everyone knows they should make official introduction first. I didn't know until someone from the forum told me this is what I should do. People just want to contribute something but I agree, a bit too personal for the first post.

IzabelaInZug 15.01.2014 02:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello Kitty (Post 2062999)
This is an experience I would like to share:
I have been looking for a good english-speaking counsellor for me and my husband (we have been going through rough times and were facing serious relationship problems). It was almost impossible to find qualified english-speaking therapists!
A friend told me about the Klaus-Grawe-Institute in Zurich. They have english-speaking excellent counsellors specialized in cognitive-behavioral therapy, also for individuals and families. We felt extremely well taken care of and could finally get support in solving our marital problems.
Excellent service, highly qualified and experienced therapists!!

I understand you very well. I was also looking for relationship counsellor and I agree this is almost impossible to find but it also depends where you want to go. There are two different approaches in sexual therapy today. While the traditional one is based on talking with clients and some exercises clients should do at home, the new approach is controversial for some and might not be for everyone. It does take some courage but if you are going through difficulties I strongly recommend to give it a try. It takes time to establish trust and intimacy again but healing is possible if both partners agree to work on the problem and see the therapist.

It is easier to find good sex and intimacy coach here and I recommend visiting Didi Liebold from www.sexologicalbodywork.ch

As I said this is sexology and somatic sex education so you are learning by doing. Counsellors are not allowed to touch their clients and in this approach it is strongly unethical but sometimes lovers need to be shown what and how to do, how to communicate their needs. Lots of marriage problems comes from this miscommunication.

I think this is fantastic approach and the results are rather fast although some would say traditional therapy gives same or similar results. Of course the problem you are facing in your relationship can be caused by something very different but it is a fact that couples who enjoy good quality sex life very rarely end up divorcing and lack of communication in sex is also the major problem today. If you are going through difficult times with your partner this might be interesting for you. If you need any other addresses, links or a bit of advice I am happy to talk. I did quite a lot of research on this. Good luck.

Sean Connery 15.01.2014 08:04

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Originally Posted by IzabelaInZug (Post 2063145)
Not everyone knows they should make official introduction first. I didn't know until someone from the forum told me this is what I should do. People just want to contribute something but I agree, a bit too personal for the first post.

Oh I do agree.

But I'd say this is astroturfing.

IzabelaInZug 15.01.2014 10:08

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Hmm I didn't think it might be but let's see. I think we will all know it soon:)

Hello Kitty 15.01.2014 11:14

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Thank you for your inputs. Why should this be astroturfing? Isn't it ok to share a personal experience?

Sean Connery 15.01.2014 11:18

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Originally Posted by Hello Kitty (Post 2063312)
Thank you for your inputs. Why should this be astroturfing? Isn't it ok to share a personal experience?

Oh yes. But to join just to share that experience tingles the old Spidey Sense :)

Chuff 15.01.2014 11:28

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Originally Posted by IzabelaInZug (Post 2063151)
As I said this is sexology and somatic sex education so you are learning by doing. Counsellors are not allowed to touch their clients and in this approach it is strongly unethical but sometimes lovers need to be shown what and how to do, how to communicate their needs. Lots of marriage problems comes from this miscommunication.

I take it you meant counsellors ARE allowed to touch. Either way, I guess you have to be at a verryyy low point to allow that to happen. Ugh (unless the counselor is by some small chance a hot woman, in which case not ugh).

TidakApa 15.01.2014 11:42

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Originally Posted by Hello Kitty (Post 2063312)
Thank you for your inputs. Why should this be astroturfing? Isn't it ok to share a personal experience?

Hi
Welcome to the forum

Thanks for being open and helpful with your first post.


This being said, there are two things you need to know as a newbie:
1) Think of this place as an open invitation down at the 'local pub' that you brought your grandmother along to.
You wouldn't just walk up to a group of people you don't know and dump all personal feelings, or act in any manner that people would find offensive.
The "introduction" section is just that. Hi, I'm such and such and this is who I am....... hence the introduction section. (N.B. "New Thread" button at the top)
This way you also don't look 'weird'. Imagine having a conversation and someone random interupts and says "I want this" or "This is my problem".... it's just kinda awkward.
As a newbie, I equally don't blame you for missing this, but now you know.
2) SPAM
We get shit loads of spam here (yes, I swear in front of my grandmother) and it's kinda hard to control.
Someone who just pops up recommending a commercial business is going to raise eyebrows.
...... as a newbie, I also understand you won't know this, but if you see it from our perspective, it will help you understand why you are attracting heat.
It's nothing personal (if your intentions are good).


All this being said....... you are not alone with a "Baptism of Fire" onto this forum, so stick around.
(Unless you're spam, then you'll be booted in no time)

IzabelaInZug 15.01.2014 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 2063325)
I take it you meant counsellors ARE allowed to touch. Either way, I guess you have to be at a verryyy low point to allow that to happen. Ugh (unless the counselor is by some small chance a hot woman, in which case not ugh).

Yes good point. Thank you. I didn't notice it.
I ment in traditional approach they are not allowed but there are two different approaches today. You can't solve all problems by only talking with your clients. And yes, you have to be very unhappy with either your sexual performance, overwhelming shyness or body image to do that but in some cases this kind if therapy works wonders. Many people do have problem with sex nowadays and this is where professional somatic sex education can be of help.

Most of counsellor don't know enough or know nothing about yoni healing or how therapeutic yoni massages can be. Once we realize how much emotions (often negative) can be stored in female genital area it all makes sense. Even when we think of something as controversial as sexual surrogacy it is important to be aware that the client must be referred to such therapy by his doctor or therapist. There are strict rules and a number of session is always fixed to avoid problems such as bonding and falling in love for example. It is not just about sleeping with somebody's husband for money but that's how many people prefer to see it.
They don't know what this really is so they are frightened. This is why it is easier to judge negatively or discredit this approach but I strongly support this approach if the boundaries are clear and therapist is professionally trained to do this.
I don't know why we underestimate the value and importance of sex today. Lots of people don't even know what they want or like because they never had a chance to really experience good touch and being taken care of by their lovers. How can a woman communicate her needs if she finds no joy in having sex? if we were told by our mothers that sex is somehow sinful, leads to troubles such as unwanted pregnancy, being "used" by a man or catching STD?
Of course our mothers want to warn us because they love us and want us to be safe and protected. This is natural and very important but we also should learn that sex is good, it feels good and makes us happy and Sex should be also seen as a cheery on the cake called Life.
it is important to learn how to give and receive pleasure especially for those in long-term relationships.
Sexological bodywork can help with these and other problems.

We are surrounded by lots of porn an aggressive commercials full of nudity. It seems like sex is an easy subject today, be is it true? Is this the quality of intimacy we really need?

Chuff 15.01.2014 15:07

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Originally Posted by IzabelaInZug (Post 2063521)
Yes good point. Thank you. I didn't notice it.
I ment in traditional approach they are not allowed but there are two different approaches today. You can't solve all problems by only talking with your clients. And yes, you have to be very unhappy with either your sexual performance, overwhelming shyness or body image to do that but in some cases this kind if therapy works wonders. Many people do have problem with sex nowadays and this is where professional somatic sex education can be of help.

Most of counsellor don't know enough or know nothing about yoni healing or how therapeutic yoni massages can be. Once we realize how much emotions (often negative) can be stored in female genital area it all makes sense. Even when we think of something as controversial as sexual surrogacy it is important to be aware that the client must be referred to such therapy by his doctor or therapist. There are strict rules and a number of session is always fixed to avoid problems such as bonding and falling in love for example. It is not just about sleeping with somebody's husband for money but that's how many people prefer to see it.
They don't know what this really is so they are frightened. This is why it is easier to judge negatively or discredit this approach but I strongly support this approach if the boundaries are clear and therapist is professionally trained to do this.
I don't know why we underestimate the value and importance of sex today. Lots of people don't even know what they want or like because they never had a chance to really experience good touch and being taken care of by their lovers. How can a woman communicate her needs if she finds no joy in having sex? if we were told by our mothers that sex is somehow sinful, leads to troubles such as unwanted pregnancy, being "used" by a man or catching STD?
Of course our mothers want to warn us because they love us and want us to be safe and protected. This is natural and very important but we also should learn that sex is good, it feels good and makes us happy and Sex should be also seen as a cheery on the cake called Life.
it is important to learn how to give and receive pleasure especially for those in long-term relationships.
Sexological bodywork can help with these and other problems.

We are surrounded by lots of porn an aggressive commercials full of nudity. It seems like sex is an easy subject today, be is it true? Is this the quality of intimacy we really need?

*coughbullshitcough*

Sorry, frog in my throat... :msnblush:

cricketer 15.01.2014 17:25

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"Sexological bodywork..."
Boy I could do with some of that:)

logo123 15.01.2014 17:54

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On a serious note.

You touch upon a lot of important messages.
While I don't agree fully with all your points, there are clearly some points which are quite valid and relevant.

It is quite an interesting connudrum. We are surrounded by sexualised images, porn is much more accessible and mainstream, social mores are more relaxed and liberal and yet somehow people feel the lack of true intimacy and connection.

3Wishes 15.01.2014 18:55

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I guess I missed the part where OP said she and her partner needed sexual therapy. :confused:

IzabelaInZug 16.01.2014 00:06

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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 2063563)
*coughbullshitcough*

Sorry, frog in my throat... :msnblush:

Are you serious ? You must be FBI - Female body instructor to say that?
Search for Joseph Kramer, Padma Deva or see what Didi Liebold in Zurich is offering. He is actually working as sex educator in high schools in Zurich... If you think this is bullshit this is your problem. I don't have to convince you. I think this approach is really interesting. There is nothing wrong in learning to be better in sex, improving communication with your partner, finding more time for intimacy. Some think this is bullshit and they are missing out but let them... If I wanted coaching on sex and intimacy I would visit sex and intimacy coach, not a regular counsellor.

You were not born knowing where female g point is. You had to learn it and I hope you did but imagine 50 years old woman who never had an orgasm. Thank to the genital massage/yoni massage she can experience it for the first time in her life and see how it is to live normally. This is the real case but never mind. There are women who feel so disconnected from their bodies their vaginas go into the state of numbness... Read about yoni healing. Not that much is needed to cause this damage.

IzabelaInZug 16.01.2014 00:27

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Originally Posted by cricketer (Post 2063684)
"Sexological bodywork..."
Boy I could do with some of that:)

In what way you think you could use that?

ximix 16.01.2014 01:10

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@IzabelaInZug: Curiosity got the better of me as to what exactly an "FBI" was or did but Google has not been helpful at all on this occasion.

Typical! :rolleyes:;)

Tantra-Vanessa 16.01.2014 02:53

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Well the thread opener did not say what the specific problems with her husband are, but as Izabela said, Sex is one of the big issues in couples lives and should not be under estimated. And sexualbodywork or counselling can be of great help. So, depending on the problem you choose a different counsellor. I often hear from my male Massage-Clients that lacking Sex in their relationship is the biggest problem in their marital life, but both have not the courage to speak about it openly. Often it ends with cheating on the partner with another man or women. Secret affairs are very frequent! Well my clients admit that to me at any rate. Talking before an finding solutions would be a better way... But when it comes to Sextalk most of the people fall silent...


However, good luck and talking it through for your marriage!


Vanessa

Chuff 16.01.2014 08:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IzabelaInZug (Post 2063971)
Are you serious ? You must be FBI - Female body instructor to say that?
Search for Joseph Kramer, Padma Deva or see what Didi Liebold in Zurich is offering. He is actually working as sex educator in high schools in Zurich... If you think this is bullshit this is your problem. I don't have to convince you. I think this approach is really interesting. There is nothing wrong in learning to be better in sex, improving communication with your partner, finding more time for intimacy. Some think this is bullshit and they are missing out but let them... If I wanted coaching on sex and intimacy I would visit sex and intimacy coach, not a regular counsellor.

You were not born knowing where female g point is. You had to learn it and I hope you did but imagine 50 years old woman who never had an orgasm. Thank to the genital massage/yoni massage she can experience it for the first time in her life and see how it is to live normally. This is the real case but never mind. There are women who feel so disconnected from their bodies their vaginas go into the state of numbness... Read about yoni healing. Not that much is needed to cause this damage.

Yes, I must be a FBI (Female Body Instructor in order to say that the new-age nonsense you posted was crap. What a fantastic and accurate deduction. You absolute loon. :eek:

No-one would ever say sex isn't important to a relationship, and couples can of course need guidance there, but that doesn't mean that all of the absolute mumbo-jumbo you are surrounding it with is anything other than pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. You come across like someone who had big and messed up problems in your own relationship, had them fixed in this way by someone who clearly preached all of the aforementioned pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo surrounding sexual therapy, and are now a fanatical convert trying to convince everyone else.

Sexual therapy, good. The other nonsense you are spouting, not good.

Connor MacLeod 16.01.2014 08:57

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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 2064051)
Yes, I must be a FBI (Female Body Instructor in order to say that the new-age nonsense you posted was crap. What a fantastic and accurate deduction. You absolute loon. :eek:

No-one would ever say sex isn't important to a relationship, and couples can of course need guidance there, but that doesn't mean that all of the absolute mumbo-jumbo you are surrounding it with is anything other than absolute garbage. You come across like someone who had big and messed up problems in your own relationship, had them fixed in this way by someone who clearly preached all of the aforementioned garbage surrounding sexual therapy, and are now a fanatical convert trying to convince everyone else.

Sexual therapy, good. The other crap you are spouting, not good.

Or she is a sexual therapist.

Guest 16.01.2014 09:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IzabelaInZug (Post 2063521)
We are surrounded by lots of porn an aggressive commercials full of nudity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by logo123 (Post 2063721)
We are surrounded by sexualised images


I sometimes wonder what people are watching and reading to be seeing all this porn and sexual stuff everywhere.


:confused:

Treverus 16.01.2014 10:09

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I sometimes wonder what people are watching and reading to be seeing all this porn and sexual stuff everywhere

It's just in their heads...


http://s.websiteplanet.com/wp-conten...albumparty.jpg

IzabelaInZug 16.01.2014 19:22

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I said there are other options available depending what the problem is. I did not even once mention any new-age approaches. Now, go back to watching your porn or tell your wife to close her eyes and think of England because that's probably the best you can do.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 2064051)
Yes, I must be a FBI (Female Body Instructor in order to say that the new-age nonsense you posted was crap. What a fantastic and accurate deduction. You absolute loon. :eek:

No-one would ever say sex isn't important to a relationship, and couples can of course need guidance there, but that doesn't mean that all of the absolute mumbo-jumbo you are surrounding it with is anything other than pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. You come across like someone who had big and messed up problems in your own relationship, had them fixed in this way by someone who clearly preached all of the aforementioned pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo surrounding sexual therapy, and are now a fanatical convert trying to convince everyone else.

Sexual therapy, good. The other nonsense you are spouting, not good.


IzabelaInZug 16.01.2014 19:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 2064051)
.Sexual therapy, good. The other nonsense you are spouting, not good.


Sorry but you didn't get my point at all. I said there are many ways to help people today. Some people lack skills and confidence and they simply need to be shown. There are therapists who provide treatments seen as controversial and I mentioned that. I said it is available but controversial and not for everyone. Read it again. It depends on the problem of the person /couple. The teaching offered by intimacy coaches can be done by talking, having people practice in privacy or can be shown on fantoms. Sometimes techniques need to be shown and it doesn't have to involve new-age practices, far from it.

It usually does not involve touching the client but there are some people who work like that and often these people have great results... I don't think this is necessary but I am not against it. I am not judging it but want to learn more about it. I would appreciate if you stay away from making comments about my personal life or my relationship. It has nothing to do with this subject.

IzabelaInZug 16.01.2014 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 2064051)
Yes, I must be a FBI (Female Body Instructor in order to say that the new-age nonsense you posted was crap.

I already know you are not. If you think of sexual techniques, bonding practices, breathing exercises, learning how to read your partner's body, couple massage, genital massage techniques, learning aimless touch as of nonsense then I feel really sorry for your partner. It is physiology + skills and patience if you prefer to see it this way. Read about karezza or get some videos. I see you obviously have your opinion about the subject although you probably never tried any of that. You really think it is so obvious for every couple how important sex is in the relationship? Knowing the importance while you are horny and knowing how to improve the quality of your sex life are two very different things. There are talented lovers for whom these things are easy but if someone is not this will usually lead to marriage/relationship break up.

IzabelaInZug 16.01.2014 20:32

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Originally Posted by cricketer (Post 2063684)
"Sexological bodywork..."
Boy I could do with some of that:)


Yes, this name makes me smile too... but I am not the one who invented it. It all started with Annie Sprinkle and Joseph Kramer in California :)

Tom1234 17.01.2014 09:23

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Originally Posted by IzabelaInZug (Post 2064718)
Yes, this name makes me smile too... but I am not the one who invented it. It all started with Annie Sprinkle and Joseph Kramer in California :)

In California? Who would have thought it, eh?

Guest 17.01.2014 09:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IzabelaInZug (Post 2063521)
Yes good point. Thank you. I didn't notice it.
I ment in traditional approach they are not allowed but there are two different approaches today. You can't solve all problems by only talking with your clients. And yes, you have to be very unhappy with either your sexual performance, overwhelming shyness or body image to do that but in some cases this kind if therapy works wonders. Many people do have problem with sex nowadays and this is where professional somatic sex education can be of help.

Most of counsellor don't know enough or know nothing about yoni healing or how therapeutic yoni massages can be. Once we realize how much emotions (often negative) can be stored in female genital area it all makes sense. Even when we think of something as controversial as sexual surrogacy it is important to be aware that the client must be referred to such therapy by his doctor or therapist. There are strict rules and a number of session is always fixed to avoid problems such as bonding and falling in love for example. It is not just about sleeping with somebody's husband for money but that's how many people prefer to see it.
They don't know what this really is so they are frightened. This is why it is easier to judge negatively or discredit this approach but I strongly support this approach if the boundaries are clear and therapist is professionally trained to do this.
I don't know why we underestimate the value and importance of sex today. Lots of people don't even know what they want or like because they never had a chance to really experience good touch and being taken care of by their lovers. How can a woman communicate her needs if she finds no joy in having sex? if we were told by our mothers that sex is somehow sinful, leads to troubles such as unwanted pregnancy, being "used" by a man or catching STD?
Of course our mothers want to warn us because they love us and want us to be safe and protected. This is natural and very important but we also should learn that sex is good, it feels good and makes us happy and Sex should be also seen as a cheery on the cake called Life.
it is important to learn how to give and receive pleasure especially for those in long-term relationships.
Sexological bodywork can help with these and other problems.

We are surrounded by lots of porn an aggressive commercials full of nudity. It seems like sex is an easy subject today, be is it true? Is this the quality of intimacy we really need?

HAHAHAHA! You neg repped me once when I made a joke about getting a happy ending after a massage, and now you come out and spout this shower of shite??!

What's that nonsense about "Genital Massage Techniques"?! You sure you're not offering happy endings?

Hello Kitty 17.01.2014 12:05

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I was a bit surprised to read the replies on my initial post... My Intention was to share a positive experience I had, because I made the experience that it is difficult finding professional psychotherapy/counselling in english. I really appreciated the posts I received with other good suggestions because that was what I had intended: that we can share positive experiences and give eachother good addresses for counselling in Switzerland.
Concerning my ow experience with the Klaus-Grawe-Institute: I found it extremely helpful to find a place that offers highly professional, evidence-based Treatment (based on current psychotherapy research). This made me feel good and safe since I have an accademic background myself. Also, I think that the cognitive-behavioral approach helped me and my husband very much because it is very hands-on and practically useful in everyday life. We had an excellent, warm-hearted, professional counsellor. In the sessions we could clarify many of our distructive patterns, discuss subjects that we couldn't discuss on our own anymore, and we also did a communication. In the intervals between the sessions we could practise what we learned in real-life.
Other therapy modalities like sexual therapy or others might be right for many, for us it was definitely good to have a professional with a good educational and research background, and to proceed with clear goals and a problem-solving attitude. I would really appreciate if we could share more inputs on other positive experiences instead of drifting off. Have a great day everybody!

Karl 17.01.2014 12:58

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I find your personal attack on a fellow poster completely out of line. If I were a mod I would have you banned for this unnecessary post and your crude choice of words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 2064051)
Yes, I must be a FBI (Female Body Instructor in order to say that the new-age nonsense you posted was crap. What a fantastic and accurate deduction. You absolute loon. :eek:

No-one would ever say sex isn't important to a relationship, and couples can of course need guidance there, but that doesn't mean that all of the absolute mumbo-jumbo you are surrounding it with is anything other than pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. You come across like someone who had big and messed up problems in your own relationship, had them fixed in this way by someone who clearly preached all of the aforementioned pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo surrounding sexual therapy, and are now a fanatical convert trying to convince everyone else.

Sexual therapy, good. The other nonsense you are spouting, not good.


Treverus 17.01.2014 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello Kitty (Post 2065075)
I was a bit surprised to read the replies on my initial post... My Intention was to share a positive experience I had, because I made the experience that it is difficult finding professional psychotherapy/counselling in english. I really appreciated the posts I received with other good suggestions because that was what I had intended: that we can share positive experiences and give eachother good addresses for counselling in Switzerland.
Concerning my ow experience with the Klaus-Grawe-Institute: I found it extremely helpful to find a place that offers highly professional, evidence-based Treatment (based on current psychotherapy research). This made me feel good and safe since I have an accademic background myself. Also, I think that the cognitive-behavioral approach helped me and my husband very much because it is very hands-on and practically useful in everyday life. We had an excellent, warm-hearted, professional counsellor. In the sessions we could clarify many of our distructive patterns, discuss subjects that we couldn't discuss on our own anymore, and we also did a communication. In the intervals between the sessions we could practise what we learned in real-life.
Other therapy modalities like sexual therapy or others might be right for many, for us it was definitely good to have a professional with a good educational and research background, and to proceed with clear goals and a problem-solving attitude. I would really appreciate if we could share more inputs on other positive experiences instead of drifting off. Have a great day everybody!

So you come to this website with the sole intention to share your awesome experience with those guys. Then you receive some negative feedback explaining you that your post really reads like unethical advertisement and that you should probably introduce yourself a bit before you post nothing but recommendations for one specific institute... after reading this you decide that it is time to make another post saying nothing else as your first one repeating over and over again how awesome that psychotherapy was?

I am sorry, but it is hard to take your posts seriously now...

Chuff 17.01.2014 13:14

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Originally Posted by Karl (Post 2065122)
I find your personal attack on a fellow poster completely out of line. If I were a mod I would have you banned for this unnecessary post and your crude choice of words.

Thanks, I'm flattered. :msnblush:

Upthehatters2008 17.01.2014 13:28

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I sometimes wonder what people are watching and reading to be seeing all this porn and sexual stuff everywhere.


:confused:
You need to get out of that hotbed of underground sexual deviancy they call Glarus...

Upthehatters2008 17.01.2014 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 2065122)
I find your personal attack on a fellow poster completely out of line. If I were a mod I would have you banned for this unnecessary post and your crude choice of words.

He has been a bit andropausal and tetchy lately I agree...

mirfield 17.01.2014 13:32

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I sometimes wonder what people are watching and reading to be seeing all this porn and sexual stuff everywhere.
Just Redtube and Razzle. That filth is everywhere I look.

Chuff 17.01.2014 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Upthehatters2008 (Post 2065142)
He has been a bit andropausal and tetchy lately I agree...

I fill in during your quiet times. :D

IzabelaInZug 17.01.2014 17:24

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Originally Posted by Loz1983 (Post 2064917)
What's that nonsense about "Genital Massage Techniques"?! You sure you're not offering happy endings?

It is not nonsense. Think of it as of science;). if you already think this is nonsense we have nothing to talk about. I was thinking of techqniques and practices partners can share to establish intimacy if it has been lost. Tricks and exercises for couples not for me and my clients... What did you think?

Yes i am interested in human sexuality and I choose to speak about it openly. I am not against open relationships, tantric practices, sexual surrogacy or sex workers offering services to disabled people or their parents booking and paying for such services as for these people it is sometimes the only way to be intimate with another human being.

I would love to teach couples about sensual massage. The problem is you have to be certified to do this and I am not qualified. I would love to do post-graduate studies in sex therapy but this is not going to happen... I'm afraid a rude prude like you would be killed on the spot.
I hope to assist during tantric workshops for couples who consider divorce soon and i am really looking forward to it. A lot can be taught and lernt there.

I see you immediately made a link between me and happy ending massages. Is this is the only sexual experience you can think of? This must be something you know very well yourself if you dare to speak about it so openly. If that's the case I am sorry for you... but please tell us more, we are open-minded society and we can talk about sex without getting upset or judgemental, without shame or making silly childish or vulgar jokes. Can't we?

Chuff 17.01.2014 17:43

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Originally Posted by IzabelaInZug (Post 2065332)
It is not nonsense. Think of it as of science;). if you already think this is nonsense we have nothing to talk about. I was thinking of techqniques and practices partners can share to establish intimacy if it has been lost. Tricks and exercises for couples not for me and my clients... What did you think?

Yes i am interested in human sexuality and I choose to speak about it openly. I am not against open relationships, tantric practices, sexual surrogacy or sex workers offering services to disabled people or their parents booking and paying for such services as for these people it is sometimes the only way to be intimate with another human being.

I would love to teach couples about sensual massage. The problem is you have to be certified to do this and I am not qualified. I would love to do post-graduate studies in sex therapy but this is not going to happen... I'm afraid a rude prude like you would be killed on the spot.
I hope to assist during tantric workshops for couples who consider divorce soon and i am really looking forward to it. A lot can be taught and lernt there.

I see you immediately made a link between me and happy ending massages. Is this is the only sexual experience you can think of? This must be something you know very well yourself if you dare to speak about it so openly. If that's the case I am sorry for you... but please tell us more, we are open-minded society and we can talk about sex without getting upset or judgemental, without shame or making silly childish or vulgar jokes. Can't we?

Izabela, I know that in your mind everyone who doesn't take your ramblings on this subject 100% seriously is a prudish, sexually incompetent shrew... but in reality we are just a selection of people who think that you are taking the sound principles of marriage, relationship and sexual counselling, and then adding a high dose of verbose guff to go with it.

You seem to be confusing the above sentiments for us not being able to openly talk about sex, which is absolutely not the case.

IzabelaInZug 17.01.2014 18:21

Re: Excellent counselling in Zurich (psychotherapy)
 
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Originally Posted by Loz1983 (Post 2064917)
HAHAHAHA! You neg repped me once when I made a joke about getting a happy ending after a massage, and now you come out and spout this shower of shite??!

What's that nonsense about "Genital Massage Techniques"?! You sure you're not offering happy endings?

Oh did I give you some nasty red blobs for your comment? You probably deserved it.
If IGNORANCE is BLISS you must be ORGASMIC.


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