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This is an experience I would like to share:
I have been looking for a good english-speaking counsellor for me and my husband (we have been going through rough times and were facing serious relationship problems). It was almost impossible to find qualified english-speaking therapists!
A friend told me about the Klaus-Grawe-Institute in Zurich. They have english-speaking excellent counsellors specialized in cognitive-behavioral therapy, also for individuals and families. We felt extremely well taken care of and could finally get support in solving our marital problems.
Excellent service, highly qualified and experienced therapists!!
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nice first post.
Not everyone knows they should make official introduction first. I didn't know until someone from the forum told me this is what I should do. People just want to contribute something but I agree, a bit too personal for the first post.
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This is an experience I would like to share:
I have been looking for a good english-speaking counsellor for me and my husband (we have been going through rough times and were facing serious relationship problems). It was almost impossible to find qualified english-speaking therapists!
A friend told me about the Klaus-Grawe-Institute in Zurich. They have english-speaking excellent counsellors specialized in cognitive-behavioral therapy, also for individuals and families. We felt extremely well taken care of and could finally get support in solving our marital problems.
Excellent service, highly qualified and experienced therapists!!
I understand you very well. I was also looking for relationship counsellor and I agree this is almost impossible to find but it also depends where you want to go. There are two different approaches in sexual therapy today. While the traditional one is based on talking with clients and some exercises clients should do at home, the new approach is controversial for some and might not be for everyone. It does take some courage but if you are going through difficulties I strongly recommend to give it a try. It takes time to establish trust and intimacy again but healing is possible if both partners agree to work on the problem and see the therapist.

It is easier to find good sex and intimacy coach here and I recommend visiting Didi Liebold from www.sexologicalbodywork.ch

As I said this is sexology and somatic sex education so you are learning by doing. Counsellors are not allowed to touch their clients and in this approach it is strongly unethical but sometimes lovers need to be shown what and how to do, how to communicate their needs. Lots of marriage problems comes from this miscommunication.

I think this is fantastic approach and the results are rather fast although some would say traditional therapy gives same or similar results. Of course the problem you are facing in your relationship can be caused by something very different but it is a fact that couples who enjoy good quality sex life very rarely end up divorcing and lack of communication in sex is also the major problem today. If you are going through difficult times with your partner this might be interesting for you. If you need any other addresses, links or a bit of advice I am happy to talk. I did quite a lot of research on this. Good luck.
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Not everyone knows they should make official introduction first. I didn't know until someone from the forum told me this is what I should do. People just want to contribute something but I agree, a bit too personal for the first post.
Oh I do agree.

But I'd say this is astroturfing.
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Hmm I didn't think it might be but let's see. I think we will all know it soon
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Thank you for your inputs. Why should this be astroturfing? Isn't it ok to share a personal experience?
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Thank you for your inputs. Why should this be astroturfing? Isn't it ok to share a personal experience?
Oh yes. But to join just to share that experience tingles the old Spidey Sense
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As I said this is sexology and somatic sex education so you are learning by doing. Counsellors are not allowed to touch their clients and in this approach it is strongly unethical but sometimes lovers need to be shown what and how to do, how to communicate their needs. Lots of marriage problems comes from this miscommunication.
I take it you meant counsellors ARE allowed to touch. Either way, I guess you have to be at a verryyy low point to allow that to happen. Ugh (unless the counselor is by some small chance a hot woman, in which case not ugh).
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Thank you for your inputs. Why should this be astroturfing? Isn't it ok to share a personal experience?
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Welcome to the forum

Thanks for being open and helpful with your first post.


This being said, there are two things you need to know as a newbie:
1) Think of this place as an open invitation down at the 'local pub' that you brought your grandmother along to.
You wouldn't just walk up to a group of people you don't know and dump all personal feelings, or act in any manner that people would find offensive.
The "introduction" section is just that. Hi, I'm such and such and this is who I am....... hence the introduction section. (N.B. "New Thread" button at the top)
This way you also don't look 'weird'. Imagine having a conversation and someone random interupts and says "I want this" or "This is my problem".... it's just kinda awkward.
As a newbie, I equally don't blame you for missing this, but now you know.
2) SPAM
We get shit loads of spam here (yes, I swear in front of my grandmother) and it's kinda hard to control.
Someone who just pops up recommending a commercial business is going to raise eyebrows.
...... as a newbie, I also understand you won't know this, but if you see it from our perspective, it will help you understand why you are attracting heat.
It's nothing personal (if your intentions are good).


All this being said....... you are not alone with a "Baptism of Fire" onto this forum, so stick around.
(Unless you're spam, then you'll be booted in no time)
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I take it you meant counsellors ARE allowed to touch. Either way, I guess you have to be at a verryyy low point to allow that to happen. Ugh (unless the counselor is by some small chance a hot woman, in which case not ugh).
Yes good point. Thank you. I didn't notice it.
I ment in traditional approach they are not allowed but there are two different approaches today. You can't solve all problems by only talking with your clients. And yes, you have to be very unhappy with either your sexual performance, overwhelming shyness or body image to do that but in some cases this kind if therapy works wonders. Many people do have problem with sex nowadays and this is where professional somatic sex education can be of help.

Most of counsellor don't know enough or know nothing about yoni healing or how therapeutic yoni massages can be. Once we realize how much emotions (often negative) can be stored in female genital area it all makes sense. Even when we think of something as controversial as sexual surrogacy it is important to be aware that the client must be referred to such therapy by his doctor or therapist. There are strict rules and a number of session is always fixed to avoid problems such as bonding and falling in love for example. It is not just about sleeping with somebody's husband for money but that's how many people prefer to see it.
They don't know what this really is so they are frightened. This is why it is easier to judge negatively or discredit this approach but I strongly support this approach if the boundaries are clear and therapist is professionally trained to do this.
I don't know why we underestimate the value and importance of sex today. Lots of people don't even know what they want or like because they never had a chance to really experience good touch and being taken care of by their lovers. How can a woman communicate her needs if she finds no joy in having sex? if we were told by our mothers that sex is somehow sinful, leads to troubles such as unwanted pregnancy, being "used" by a man or catching STD?
Of course our mothers want to warn us because they love us and want us to be safe and protected. This is natural and very important but we also should learn that sex is good, it feels good and makes us happy and Sex should be also seen as a cheery on the cake called Life.
it is important to learn how to give and receive pleasure especially for those in long-term relationships.
Sexological bodywork can help with these and other problems.

We are surrounded by lots of porn an aggressive commercials full of nudity. It seems like sex is an easy subject today, be is it true? Is this the quality of intimacy we really need?
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Yes good point. Thank you. I didn't notice it.
I ment in traditional approach they are not allowed but there are two different approaches today. You can't solve all problems by only talking with your clients. And yes, you have to be very unhappy with either your sexual performance, overwhelming shyness or body image to do that but in some cases this kind if therapy works wonders. Many people do have problem with sex nowadays and this is where professional somatic sex education can be of help.

Most of counsellor don't know enough or know nothing about yoni healing or how therapeutic yoni massages can be. Once we realize how much emotions (often negative) can be stored in female genital area it all makes sense. Even when we think of something as controversial as sexual surrogacy it is important to be aware that the client must be referred to such therapy by his doctor or therapist. There are strict rules and a number of session is always fixed to avoid problems such as bonding and falling in love for example. It is not just about sleeping with somebody's husband for money but that's how many people prefer to see it.
They don't know what this really is so they are frightened. This is why it is easier to judge negatively or discredit this approach but I strongly support this approach if the boundaries are clear and therapist is professionally trained to do this.
I don't know why we underestimate the value and importance of sex today. Lots of people don't even know what they want or like because they never had a chance to really experience good touch and being taken care of by their lovers. How can a woman communicate her needs if she finds no joy in having sex? if we were told by our mothers that sex is somehow sinful, leads to troubles such as unwanted pregnancy, being "used" by a man or catching STD?
Of course our mothers want to warn us because they love us and want us to be safe and protected. This is natural and very important but we also should learn that sex is good, it feels good and makes us happy and Sex should be also seen as a cheery on the cake called Life.
it is important to learn how to give and receive pleasure especially for those in long-term relationships.
Sexological bodywork can help with these and other problems.

We are surrounded by lots of porn an aggressive commercials full of nudity. It seems like sex is an easy subject today, be is it true? Is this the quality of intimacy we really need?
*coughbullshitcough*

Sorry, frog in my throat...

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Re: Excellent counselling in Zurich (psychotherapy)

"Sexological bodywork..."
Boy I could do with some of that
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On a serious note.

You touch upon a lot of important messages.
While I don't agree fully with all your points, there are clearly some points which are quite valid and relevant.

It is quite an interesting connudrum. We are surrounded by sexualised images, porn is much more accessible and mainstream, social mores are more relaxed and liberal and yet somehow people feel the lack of true intimacy and connection.
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I guess I missed the part where OP said she and her partner needed sexual therapy.
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*coughbullshitcough*

Sorry, frog in my throat...
Are you serious ? You must be FBI - Female body instructor to say that?
Search for Joseph Kramer, Padma Deva or see what Didi Liebold in Zurich is offering. He is actually working as sex educator in high schools in Zurich... If you think this is bullshit this is your problem. I don't have to convince you. I think this approach is really interesting. There is nothing wrong in learning to be better in sex, improving communication with your partner, finding more time for intimacy. Some think this is bullshit and they are missing out but let them... If I wanted coaching on sex and intimacy I would visit sex and intimacy coach, not a regular counsellor.

You were not born knowing where female g point is. You had to learn it and I hope you did but imagine 50 years old woman who never had an orgasm. Thank to the genital massage/yoni massage she can experience it for the first time in her life and see how it is to live normally. This is the real case but never mind. There are women who feel so disconnected from their bodies their vaginas go into the state of numbness... Read about yoni healing. Not that much is needed to cause this damage.

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Boy I could do with some of that
In what way you think you could use that?
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@IzabelaInZug: Curiosity got the better of me as to what exactly an "FBI" was or did but Google has not been helpful at all on this occasion.

Typical!
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Well the thread opener did not say what the specific problems with her husband are, but as Izabela said, Sex is one of the big issues in couples lives and should not be under estimated. And sexualbodywork or counselling can be of great help. So, depending on the problem you choose a different counsellor. I often hear from my male Massage-Clients that lacking Sex in their relationship is the biggest problem in their marital life, but both have not the courage to speak about it openly. Often it ends with cheating on the partner with another man or women. Secret affairs are very frequent! Well my clients admit that to me at any rate. Talking before an finding solutions would be a better way... But when it comes to Sextalk most of the people fall silent...


However, good luck and talking it through for your marriage!


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Are you serious ? You must be FBI - Female body instructor to say that?
Search for Joseph Kramer, Padma Deva or see what Didi Liebold in Zurich is offering. He is actually working as sex educator in high schools in Zurich... If you think this is bullshit this is your problem. I don't have to convince you. I think this approach is really interesting. There is nothing wrong in learning to be better in sex, improving communication with your partner, finding more time for intimacy. Some think this is bullshit and they are missing out but let them... If I wanted coaching on sex and intimacy I would visit sex and intimacy coach, not a regular counsellor.

You were not born knowing where female g point is. You had to learn it and I hope you did but imagine 50 years old woman who never had an orgasm. Thank to the genital massage/yoni massage she can experience it for the first time in her life and see how it is to live normally. This is the real case but never mind. There are women who feel so disconnected from their bodies their vaginas go into the state of numbness... Read about yoni healing. Not that much is needed to cause this damage.
Yes, I must be a FBI (Female Body Instructor in order to say that the new-age nonsense you posted was crap. What a fantastic and accurate deduction. You absolute loon.

No-one would ever say sex isn't important to a relationship, and couples can of course need guidance there, but that doesn't mean that all of the absolute mumbo-jumbo you are surrounding it with is anything other than pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo. You come across like someone who had big and messed up problems in your own relationship, had them fixed in this way by someone who clearly preached all of the aforementioned pseudo-scientific mumbo-jumbo surrounding sexual therapy, and are now a fanatical convert trying to convince everyone else.

Sexual therapy, good. The other nonsense you are spouting, not good.

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