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Unispital Zurich Issues

This might be a rant, but I'd also appreciate some advice, so here goes...

I am 38 (+2) weeks pregnant with kid 3 and it seems as though things are getting more complicated by the day. First, I was diagnosed with ICP, which supposedly meant induction at 38 weeks. At 37 weeks, I went in and the baby had turned breech, so breech vaginal birth became the top priority. At 38 weeks, the baby turned in the hospital exam room back to head down. I mentioned that she was moving a lot and that this amount of movement happened nearly every day. This is known as unstable lie, and normally necessitates more monitoring at the very least...

I was sent home and haven't been called back. So, if this pregnancy complication was so important, what's the deal? They're not monitoring it at all, even though it supposedly has a high rate of stillbirth. If I have an unstable lie, why was I not at least warned about the risks?

I get the feeling that Unispital hasn't looked at the aggregate risks, and since I'm not emergent, probably won't. As mentioned, third kid, so I'm hardly a nervous nellie, but this is starting to seem negligent.

Advice? Should I go all crazy mom-to-be? Blindly trust the system? Anyone navigated Unispital with a high risk pregnancy?
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Have you called them?

I would say in the situation you are in, it's not worth worrying about who is to blame. Get on the phone to them and nag them to death.

Chuck blame and accusations around AFTER the safe arrival of your baby.
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I would say in the situation you are in, it's not worth worrying about who is to blame. Get on the phone to them and nag them to death.

Chuck blame and accusations around AFTER the safe arrival of your baby.
We are calling them, but they keep putting us off. No room, apparently!

We even asked if changing hospitals is an option, but can't get a clear answer!
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Old 04.04.2014, 14:29
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

Do you have an gynecologist that you can go & see for advice? If you don't are are worried in any way at all turn up at the hospital and demand to be seen. Pregnancies with complications need extra monitoring.
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

Unfortunately, my gynecologist made it clear that she doesn't deal with high risk pregnancies.

Update- we got an appointment for 4:00 today, after some complaining by my husband to the front desk. I am not sure if it will do any good, but at least a doctor will need to review the file...
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

She may not deal with high risks but she knows people who do and she has the clout to get you seen when needed.

Good luck with your appointment today, I hope all goes well.

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Update- we got an appointment for 4:00 today, after some complaining by my husband to the front desk. I am not sure if it will do any good, but at least a doctor will need to review the file...
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

You could ask for a house-call from a midwife. She'd be able to answer your questions and refer you to the proper place, if need be.

If a midwife calls the hospital to say you should be seen, they'll find a place for you, which might not be the case if you call yourself.
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

So, we have been here for nearly three hours but no doctor...
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So, we have been here for nearly three hours but no doctor...
Poor you

You're still in the waiting room, or at least the midwives put you on monitoring???
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

At least the monitoring was done...
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

I just want to wish you all the best with the birth!

If you need the baby to move, ask the nurses or midwives about the "Chinese magnet thing."

Apparently, they put a magnet to your big toe and it sends energy that makes the baby move. The nurses at Uster Spital told me about it. They said: "We don't know exactly how or why it works, but it often does."

Again, wishing you and your little one all the best!
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

Not much more to add to the comments already made, other than encouragement to make sure they recognise your concern and anxiety. You are so far along (and it isn't child 1!) I find it worrying if they are dismissing your instinctual worry as pre-delivery nerves (probably enough of those w/o the extra "help") Much better to get too much medical attention too early, than require it too late.

Thinking of you - and hoping it isn't long until you can report a safe delivery.
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Old 04.04.2014, 20:54
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

If they don't trust you, try to have your partner lobby, I have experienced this blaze treatment, too, while a male partner complaining was immediately noticed and listened to, addressed. Good luck, mama, and keep voicing your concerns.
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

The Paracelsus in Richterswil have specialists that are trained to turn breech babies (or attempt to at least) and do breech births. I had my first baby there and it was a great experience.

If you are trying to get an appt with the Frauenklinik and they are ignoring you I think the only way is to go via the ER. I was seriously dehydrated and begged the FK in Baden to see me (daily morning sickness for 5 months at this point, lost over 10 kilos) and they would not make an appt. Told me to go see my regular Dr. I insisted this was pregnancy related and she told me I had to go via the ER, which I did, and I was admitted with an IV in my arm within 15 mins. I think there is such an influx of Drs with these clinics and so many patients "in need" that real necessity slips through the cracks.

And it's not too late to change hospitals. Baden didn't send my file over for my first birth (unbeknownst to us) and I showed up at 2:30 am in labor at 9 cm dialated. They took me no questions asked even after never seeing me or knowing I was coming. It is a basic insurance hospital.

All you can do I guess is insist that the Uni see you and insist on weekly appointments. If they don't it would be a horrific situation if it turned sour. I'm sorry that you are dealing with this stress just as you are ready to give birth.

If you feel that your baby isn't head down and you can't get an appt to confirm, the website Spinning Babies has exercises to encourage your little one to flip in a head down position.
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

not very helpful from my end but wish you all the best. I hope both you and the child are healthy, happy and safe..
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Re: Unispital Zurich Issues

Hi everyone-I wanted to give an update to last week's misadventure...

We sat in the exam room for four and a half hours, with about 15 minutes of doctor face time. By then, I was really unhappy-hungry, bored, and generally hormonally p#ssed off .

The doctors' "bedside manners" were pretty abysmal.

I know Unispital deals with a lot of emergency cases, but I personally found it disconcerting to be told that I wasn't high risk enough to be a priority. From their perspective (the population perspective), it is true, but that didn't change my personal risk-a concept that they seemed unable to acknowledge.

My husband tried to be reasonable yet firm with the doctor. I suggested that they transfer my records to a different hospital. Suddenly, they found space for us...that night.

So, we went home and returned 3 hours later to be induced. Fortunately, baby 3 stayed head down. Unfortunately, labor was a very long 51 hours...

I'm glad we're both here, safe and sound, but she's definitely the last of my children!

Thanks everyone for your support and kind words!
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Congratulations and I'm glad you're both fine.
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Glad to hear that your little one has arrived safe and sound.

Wishing you and the whole family all the very best.
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Congratulation!!
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Congratulations and OMG 51 hours????
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