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Re: Odd question from a female pharmacist

I guess on another flip side of being over cautious, I've been given prescription only drugs in the pharmacies here, more than once. All I had was the empty pack from a UK pharmacy which had a sticker with my name on it.
They were happy enough to accept that - well i must have had a prescription at some point. And I was happy to avoid a 100.- doctor visit!
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Probably takes an adjustment..People always read the paper, read the active agent and dosage, no? Don't they teach this in school eveywhere? I don't really mind the ott quiz on primitive stuff so much, I mind the "are you really sure, let me all you this useless magic thing as well, while we are at it" that follows quickly.

I do not know why but I have yet to meet a male pharmacist here pushing expensive woodoo magic on me. Might be my stern face I put on, hahahah..I should leave it at work.

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I guess on another flip side of being over cautious, I've been given prescription only drugs in the pharmacies here, more than once. All I had was the empty pack from a UK pharmacy which had a sticker with my name on it.
They were happy enough to accept that - well i must have had a prescription at some point. And I was happy to avoid a 100.- doctor visit!
I have done the same, that really is great, works elsewhere, too. I usually have it in latin, works fine with the chef d'equipe, he asks no questions, either.
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Old 16.05.2014, 13:39
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Re: Odd question from a female pharmacist

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If you have a hangover you should avoid paracetamol. Alcohol and paracetamol are metabolised the same way in the liver, and cause similar irritation. Of course, if you've got a hangover and you take ibuprofen, then that can irritate your stomach.

I used to think paracetamol did little. Then I had it for post-op pain; when I stopped taking it, I could really feel it!

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Never mind what happened, 35 chuffs for paracetamol??! Holy sweet jumping Jesus, a pack can be had for 35 pence back home!
If I recall correctly, it's 3.50 CHF.

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You'd be surprised how many people don't know this basic stuff....
Friend of mine, with a PhD in biology, was taking ibuprofen for joint pain. Since it was really quite bad, he doubled the dose. Only trouble was, he was taking 800mg (prescribed) tables. So each dose was 1600mg... 4x the OTC limit and double to medically indicated limit.

He didn't know what he was taking, the effects it would have on him, the permitted dosage or anything. He hadn't bothered to read the leaflet. So many even highly educated people are incredibly ignorant when it comes to medicine, thinking that if one is good, two is going to be better.
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Me: ah yes.... Well, as many times as I have a headache, now, for example, is starting to look like a good time, by the way.

Her: My God, NO! You could really hurt yourself!
When you said that you got what you deserved because in the pharmacists eyes you demonstrated zero knowledge of how much is safe, had you added "and no more than than 8 500mg in a 24 hour period" you would have been fine.
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Old 16.05.2014, 13:46
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Re: Odd question from a female pharmacist

Here a blog from a Swiss Pharmacist and Mother: http://pharmama.ch

Alltough in German, she has nice gems and stories about doctors, customers, insurance companies, and different medications. Also a collection of photos of different pharmacies all around the world which readers have sent her in.
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Re: Odd question from a female pharmacist

When I first moved here from the U.S., I found it rather obnoxious and strange that I had to ask the pharmacist for medications that could just easily be grabbed off a shelf back in the States.

Now, though, I have really come to appreciate the fact that, here in CH, I can so easily get advice (even when not asked for) from the pharmacists about drug interactions, max. amount per day, etc. -- especially considering the fact that I often cannot read the labels or instructions on the medications themselves (my German isn't that good yet).

I have a feeling that there would be a lot less accidental overdoses and problems with bad drug interactions in the US if there was a system in place there as there is here in CH.
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Re: Odd question from a female pharmacist

Just a little side note here...

I've read that the majority of headaches are actually due to mild dehydration. So whenever I get a headache, I always drink a big glass of water and wait to see how I feel afterward, before taking a pain med.
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Re: Odd question from a female pharmacist

My first time in a Swiss pharmacy I asked for paracetamol tablets. She gave me a box with 6. I asked if she did not have a glass with 200 or so, like I usualy buy in my home country. Pure panic spread across her face, she looked if she would consider calling the police or just run away. However, she decided to lecture me about teenagers and the dangers. I am no teenager. She said the max limit was 12 pills pr expedition. I asked her if I could step out of the shop and come back it to buy 12 more. The face went from panic to contempt. I left. Now I buy painkillers when I am abroad and bring into Switzerland.
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Just a little side note here...

I've read that the majority of headaches are actually due to mild dehydration.
In British people, the majority of headaches are actually due to hang-overs.
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My first time in a Swiss pharmacy I asked for paracetamol tablets. She gave me a box with 6. I asked if she did not have a glass with 200 or so, like I usualy buy in my home country. Pure panic spread across her face, she looked if she would consider calling the police or just run away. However, she decided to lecture me about teenagers and the dangers. I am no teenager. She said the max limit was 12 pills pr expedition. I asked her if I could step out of the shop and come back it to buy 12 more. The face went from panic to contempt. I left. Now I buy painkillers when I am abroad and bring into Switzerland.
I used to stock up on paracetamol / ibuprofen when I went back to the UK but found that I don't use them all up before the end date on the pack. I will happily still use them up to about 2 months past the end date because there are likely to be safety buffers in place but after that I have to chuck half or more of the pack so it's still a waste.

Maybe I'm just not a headache-y person but I just can't seem to get through big packs of them. Now I just buy the generic brands here which aren't really that much more expensive than the UK.
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In British people, the majority of headaches are actually due to hang-overs.
If that is so, I do undrerstand the nannying attitude of that female pharmacist.

btw - meds should be always tossed away at a special bin available at pharmacies. They have a poster there, we will dispose your meds safely for free. Which reminds me, I need to clean up our med cabinet.
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It seems to me that everyone knows this.
I think the OP demonstrated that not everyone knows this.

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then swiftly trying to sell you some 50fr tube of magic apricot ointment or homeopathy stuff.
There is an exception to every rule.
In this case - Cosmetics and Homeopathy... neither of them actually do jack shit so the dose is irrelevant.
The mark up value is huge and only justified by those who need to believe in the impossible. It's therfore perfectly OK for a Pharmacist to sell as much of that as possible to whoever is willing to believe it.
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If I recall correctly, it's 3.50.
Nope, its 19p. This mean's someone, somewhere is making a hell of a lot of money. I'm heading back next weekend, I should return with a suitcase full of mild painkillers, could make a fortune. The only shitty thing would be having to buy the packets one at a time in the UK.

http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/tesco...aplets_16.html
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some 50fr tube of magic apricot ointment or homeopathy stuff.
Why, it works.

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Nope, its 19p. This mean's someone, somewhere is making a hell of a lot of money. I'm heading back next weekend, I should return with a suitcase full of mild painkillers, could make a fortune. The only shitty thing would be having to buy the packets one at a time in the UK.

http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/tesco...aplets_16.html
You know this constitutes as drug smuggling don't you? It's the same kind of "problem" in the US as well.
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btw - meds should be always tossed away at a special bin available at pharmacies. They have a poster there, we will dispose your meds safely for free. Which reminds me, I need to clean up our med cabinet.
Our pharmacy will only take returned prescription meds. OTC stuff you have to dispose of yourself. Or, if you were feeling mischievous, you could just dump it on the counter when they're not looking and dart out of the door chanting "Na-na-ni-na-na!"
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Probably takes an adjustment..People always read the paper, read the active agent and dosage, no? Don't they teach this in school eveywhere? I don't really mind the ott quiz on primitive stuff so much, I mind the "are you really sure, let me all you this useless magic thing as well, while we are at it" that follows quickly.

I do not know why but I have yet to meet a male pharmacist here pushing expensive woodoo magic on me. Might be my stern face I put on, hahahah..I should leave it at work.


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I think the OP demonstrated that not everyone knows this.


There is an exception to every rule.
In this case - Cosmetics and Homeopathy... neither of them actually do jack shit so the dose is irrelevant.
The mark up value is huge and only justified by those who need to believe in the impossible. It's therfore perfectly OK for a Pharmacist to sell as much of that as possible to whoever is willing to believe it.
It's the "be really careful with the mild painkiller drink", swift transfer to "why don't you try this tiger balm, instead" for a lot more cash. I don't think it's done out of concern for my liver. It's in a higher danger of being Switzerlanded and drained of cash than intoxicated by meds ignorance.

Anyways, the people who nag about pharmacies the most are docs, all mine (2) have the biggest gripe against swiss pharma and difficult import lobby. When they prescribe, they give me details on how to avoid getting a lot more expensive identical fancy product, but stick to generic, even if I go to another pharmacy.
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In British people, the majority of headaches are actually due to hang-overs.
And one of the main reasons people get hangovers is due to dehydration.

"You get a hangover because the ethanol in the drink caused increase urine production, leading to dehydration. "

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