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Old 28.09.2016, 13:23
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Re: Seeking tips and inspiration for quitting smoking...

Hate to say this, but here's one reason to smoke (or take nicotine):

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/...insons/2175396
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Old 28.09.2016, 14:24
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Yeah, the last semi-decent advice on the topic is almost 3 years old. Figured some new stories might have arisen---although I guess I could have resurrected one of those threads instead.
I recently bought a new e-cigarette from Werners Head Shop. They have branches near Rathaus, Zurich and at the Limmatplatz end of Langstrasse.

https://www.wernersheadshop.ch/

I gave up once 20yrs ago for 6mths, complete cold turkey job, and found the hardest time was immediately after dinner in the evening. What killed my craving was silverskin pickles dunked in mustard.

The last time, about 3 yrs ago, I used an e-cigarette with a juice that was a close as possible to my brand of cigarettes. I didn't want the disconnect of having some fruit flavoured juice.

The only reason I start smoking again is upheaval. Once was planning my wedding, and another was moving down south. The last one was silly because I arrived in Godalming as the floods of Christmas 2013 began and we had no power for 5days. I had to drive 30miles just to charge my phone nevermind my e-cig battery.
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Hate to say this, but here's one reason to smoke (or take nicotine):

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/...insons/2175396
Not sure that article is worth any attention as the picture's legend goes:
"Nicotine, by itself a nonaddictive drug, shows promise in a study."
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Old 29.09.2016, 10:18
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Has anyone in CH vaped their way off of cigarettes?
I tried for a while, but it didn't do it for me.

Neither did Allen Carr (read it twice).

But at the end of the day, it's simply cause deep down, I don't really want to quit at the moment. Yes that sounds bad, I know, and rationally, I'm well aware it's a really bad habit (every smoker is, we don't need reminders). But I'm convinced something in your head has to click for quitting to work. No amount of book-reading or nicotine replacement or vaping will help if you don't REALLY REALLY want to quit.

Of the people I know that quit, all did so cold turkey. Some started again, often years later. Cause no, just because you managed to quit once doesn't mean you're off it forever - but to quit, even if just for a while, none needed any help other than something inside of them telling them "ok, you're done with this now".
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Old 29.09.2016, 10:27
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I tried for a while, but it didn't do it for me.

Neither did Allen Carr (read it twice).

But at the end of the day, it's simply cause deep down, I don't really want to quit at the moment. Yes that sounds bad, I know, and rationally, I'm well aware it's a really bad habit (every smoker is, we don't need reminders). But I'm convinced something in your head has to click for quitting to work. No amount of book-reading or nicotine replacement or vaping will help if you don't REALLY REALLY want to quit.

Of the people I know that quit, all did so cold turkey. Some started again, often years later. Cause no, just because you managed to quit once doesn't mean you're off it forever - but to quit, even if just for a while, none needed any help other than something inside of them telling them "ok, you're done with this now".
The only way to give up is to hate every cigarette and yourself with every cigarette you smoke, thats simply it, it helps when your lungs ache and you wheeze and cough at 7am trying find a match.
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Old 29.09.2016, 11:39
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The only way to give up is to hate every cigarette and yourself with every cigarette you smoke, thats simply it, it helps when your lungs ache and you wheeze and cough at 7am trying find a match.
Not really. While physical symptoms may help in the sense that they strengthen your determination, nothing's of any use unless you're determined in the first place.

For me it simply was the right point in time when I ran out of fags and delayed buying new ones until it became clear I had already taken the first steps without really being aware. And yet I still like the smell of pipes and cigs, I think hating the smell is very much a self-induced reaction to protect oneself from temptation.

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Old 29.09.2016, 11:51
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I had my last smoke last night and tossed the rest of the pack.


I had downloaded the Allen Carr "Easy Way" audible book and am now following his instructions. I keep thinking about have a smoke, but not craving one per se.


Fingers crossed - I never want to have another one!
If you threw away a half-finished pack, it shows you have resolution. I've stopped loads of times, but start again in times of stress. You're on the right path though, keep us posted as to how it goes ...
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Old 29.09.2016, 12:09
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If you threw away a half-finished pack, it shows you have resolution.
I've thrown away several full packs over the years and then lasted a few days or sometimes a week or two before marching off to buy new ones

I suck

I hope it works for Laempefescht though!
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Old 29.09.2016, 12:38
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And yet I still like the smell of pipes and cigs, I think hating the smell is very much a self-induced reaction to protect oneself from temptation.
I guess the French must like the smell of piss and excrement in their public toilets and the Swiss don't to protect themselves from temptation?

I think people just get used to something. I thought, before catalytic converters, that the vehicle traffic fumes didn't smell too bad.

But, go to a country where they don't have these commonly and the fumes are disgusting to breath and plainly unpleasant.

I smoked when I was much younger but like almost all smokers, I was just a drug addict. Even then the smoke was unpleasant - it made my eyes water and my clothes and hair stank.

But it was everywhere and I was used to it.

I'm under no delusions that it was then, and is now, an unpleasant smell, especially when eating.
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Old 30.09.2016, 10:19
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I've thrown away several full packs over the years and then lasted a few days or sometimes a week or two before marching off to buy new ones

I suck

I hope it works for Laempefescht though!
I'd tried that as well but it never worked for more than a day. I guess it was a matter of catching the right time, and then avoid the tempting situations for a few months.

And yes, good luck Laempefescht.
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No amount of book-reading or nicotine replacement or vaping will help if you don't REALLY REALLY want to quit.

Of the people I know that quit, all did so cold turkey.
I'm sorry but I disagree with the first statement and have a different experience with the second.

I know of two people who, in their late fifties and sixties who were life-long confirmed, and heavy smokers who didn't really want to give up and had no plans to do so.

However, routine doctor appointments, a stern talk from the doctor and doctor-prescribed anti-smoking drugs (varenicline I believe) meant they stopped straight away and never started again - for nearly ten years.

The sample group is only two as everyone else I know who was of that age and a heavy smoker is now dead through lung cancer or heart disease.
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Old 30.09.2016, 13:06
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I'd tried that as well but it never worked for more than a day. I guess it was a matter of catching the right time, and then avoid the tempting situations for a few months.

And yes, good luck Laempefescht.


Thanks, Urs!


I'm almost at 72 hours. There have been a few moments when I've really wanted a smoke, but so far so good.


Tomorrow's card night - we'll see how I do with that temptation.
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Old 30.09.2016, 13:45
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Re: Seeking tips and inspiration for quitting smoking...

My FIL gave up, cold turkey, after his friend went blind in one eye, somehow caused by/blamed on smoking.
That was 10 years ago, pretty sure he'd be gone by now, 67, as he could hardly walk up a hill without constantly stopping.
Probably blocked arteries.
He started eating Trebor mints instead.

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Thanks, Urs!


I'm almost at 72 hours. There have been a few moments when I've really wanted a smoke, but so far so good.


Tomorrow's card night - we'll see how I do with that temptation.
Congrats

This was one of the occasions I avoided, no way would I have withstood the temptation during a Jass, let alone with others smoking.

Once I decided I was actually trying to quit (on day two IIRC) I defined restaurants and bars of all sorts off limits for perhaps half a year, as well as all avoidable situations that usually had me smoke (heavily). Afterwards it was smokefree restaurants only for perhaps two more years plus continued avoidance of tempting situations.

I had also bought nicotine chewing gums but never used them. Chewing an ordinary one whenever I got the craving did help me.
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Re: Seeking tips and inspiration for quitting smoking...

I have friends, their cat died of mouth cancer because of their smoking, his master stopped smoking right after that
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Old 30.09.2016, 15:37
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I have friends, their cat died of mouth cancer because of their smoking, his master stopped smoking right after that


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It is a true story, nicotine sticks to the fur of animals then they lick it, a known fact, specially with an indoor cat
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Re: Seeking tips and inspiration for quitting smoking...

I also stopped smoking after have started very soon, the best advice: an american blog, "there is no good moment to stop smoking, the death of...will not be easier because you smoke, the fact that you have problems with..will not be easer because you smoke"


The good news: YOU WILL NOT MISS SMOKING, once your nerves will have calmed down two years down the line, you will... BREATHE


Feet are made for walking, lungs for breathing... full stop
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Orange juice helps too in the first few weeks, it brings sugar to the brain as cigarettes did too
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