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Acorn 10.03.2009 08:44

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All really helpful tips, thank you!
I am taking a vitamin and also a fish-oil supplement every day, but didn't know that I could bill the health insurance company for those. I'll keep that in mind when I buy the next lot.

Marsalforn 10.03.2009 08:59

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As a health professional, I would like to respond to the OPs long ago remark that if you remain at home and eat and drink, they will still do an emergency C-section, but if you are in hospital you are starved in case they have to do one. This is correct, but there is an important difference - an anesthetic on a full stomach is an at-risk one, on an empty stomach its not considered at-risk (notwithstanding any other risks of course, obesity etc). At risk of what? Broncho-aspiration, or foreign matter (food, drink) in the lungs.

Survival rates of bronchoaspiration after one week? Zero.

runolist 10.03.2009 10:12

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Hello all!
I moved to Zurich 4 months ago from Silicon Valley, CA. I suppose to deliver in June 2009. Does anybody have some experience with Limattalspital in Schlieren? I would appreciate any information and suggestion. Thanks a lot in advance! :)

pixie4bears 10.03.2009 11:41

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Originally Posted by runolist (Post 414812)
Hello all!
I moved to Zurich 4 months ago from Silicon Valley, CA. I suppose to deliver in June 2009. Does anybody have some experience with Limattalspital in Schlieren? I would appreciate any information and suggestion. Thanks a lot in advance! :)

I do not have any experience there, but here is the link to their website: http://www.capitolmedia.de/kunden/li...auen_index.htm

If you don't know German you will need to use an online translator.

I am also do in June.. seems too soon doesn't it?

runolist 10.03.2009 15:15

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Originally Posted by pixie4bears (Post 414925)
I do not have any experience there, but here is the link to their website: http://www.capitolmedia.de/kunden/li...auen_index.htm

If you don't know German you will need to use an online translator.

I am also do in June.. seems too soon doesn't it?

Dear Pixie,
Thanks a lot for this webpage!
Yeah, it seems very soon - I am hoping to find more info about hospitals here and learn some German till then...
Congrats on your twins! :)

leylak 29.05.2009 12:48

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Sounds a bit like a plug but here's something I wrote for www.mamizeit.ch
on our experience visiting hospitals and clinics in Zurich, enjoy!

http://www.mamizeit.com/healthtime.html

Kalli 20.07.2009 15:13

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Does anyone have any experience of the hospital in Biel and any antenatal classes available there. Also the name of a good gynae would be appreciated! (French/German speaking not an issue although my German is marginally better than my French) I'll be moving there at 32 weeks pregnant, so need to be able to register for courses etc in advance.

Mr Happy 21.07.2009 09:36

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Originally Posted by Mairi (Post 414618)
You can also opt for a home birth if you want. The research says it is just as safe if not safer than hospital birth. You don't have to travel anywhere when you are in labour and no travelling immediately after birth as you are already at home in bed. Women feel more relaxed in familiar surroundings too and no chance of strangers popping in and out of your room. :) You can also give birth in a Geburtshaus which is run by midwives if you want something in between hospital and home. But ultimately you have to choose the place you will feel most relaxed/happy to give birth in.

I must have missed this older post from you Mairi.

I think the research is a little skewed. Whilst home births are common in some countries in Europe I don't think that the hundreds of thousands of births in hospitals are done because Governments want to spend money. The UK NHS is an excellent example of an organisation that tries to prevent spending money on patients (as opposed to say, Doctors and consultants) and even they recommend hospital births.

The Dutch habit of home birth is an anomaly and I would remind you, its one thing to have a home birth when you are 5 minutes from a hospital in Zurich, quite another if you are 45mins away up a mountain.

"Women feel more relaxed in familiar surroundings too and no chance of strangers popping in and out of your room. :) "

Another word for strangers is visitors, nurses and occasionally, lost doctors. There is no requirement to have a shared room, its only a level of insurance. For me the advantage of being in a (Swiss) hospital is the ability to hand off the baby and relax for a day, or 2 or few depending on how your birth went. This is a firm advantage but if you are on your second or third birth (e.g. with multiple little children at home) being away from them in a care-environment is a much better option.

Sky 21.07.2009 11:32

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Mairi, I understand your point of view in regards to a natural homebirth, nevertheless it doesn't work for everybody and it certainly is recommended to be followed by a doctor, with a hospital not far away.

Yes, pregancy is not a medical condition and women have been giving birth since the eve of time, nevertheless before modern medecine there were many more complications. We now have excellent medical facilities and support, and it's important to keep these in mind.

Ultrasounds are not invasive and are covered by the basic Swiss health insurance. These ultrasounds have helped medical staff and future parents immensely in determining the good health of the foetus.

Guest 21.07.2009 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mairi (Post 414618)
You can also opt for a home birth if you want. The research says it is just as safe if not safer than hospital birth. You don't have to travel anywhere when you are in labour and no travelling immediately after birth as you are already at home in bed. Women feel more relaxed in familiar surroundings too and no chance of strangers popping in and out of your room. :) You can also give birth in a Geburtshaus which is run by midwives if you want something in between hospital and home. But ultimately you have to choose the place you will feel most relaxed/happy to give birth in.

Mairi

Most women in hospitals here stay in for anything from 5 to 7 days after even a normal birth and travelling after a week of resting should be fine, no?

Being in hospital that first week after the birth was fab (as Mr Happy pointed out) you can give the baby to the nurses for a couple of hours if you want to get your head down for a kip in between feeds, the nurses also act as bouncers and keep unwanted visitors at bay, plus, if you've got other kids, they are at home with dad/granny/grandad and out of the way while you get over the birth and devour the boxes of chocolates your visitors have brought you. :D

By comparison, the UK must be a nightmare being kicked out sometimes as early as 6 hours after you've given birth.

Switzerland2009 04.08.2009 13:04

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Originally Posted by Lou (Post 23414)
Anyone coming into Switzerland already pregnant can not get private coverage with their health insurance. The birth will be covered only under the basic terms, any extras would have to be coevered out of the patients own pocket.

Does anyone know why this is? If you are coming over as an Ex-Pat there is no way to get better coverage with health insurance?

Nickers 04.08.2009 13:08

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Originally Posted by Switzerland2009 (Post 511001)
Does anyone know why this is? If you are coming over as an Ex-Pat there is no way to get better coverage with health insurance?

I think what Lou is saying as you can not covered for additional private insurance which allows you access to the 'private' hospitals and semi private (2 room wards) or private (own room wards) but upon entering Switzerland you need to have basic insurance as standard therefore this will cover you to have your baby here - in a standard hospital and in a standard ward

Acorn 04.08.2009 13:32

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The basic insurance is pretty good here and upgrading to a private room also seems to be pretty reasonable in most hospitals (around 600 CHF for 5 nights in Vaud). I'm on the basic cover and have been scanned every time I went to the gynie, which they are covering ect ect. Also there is no excess for maternity. The other women that I know who have had babies with the basic insurance have all been impressed with the service they have been given. Private does give you more options re water/home birth though.
Beware though, I hear it can be harder to find a gynie willing to take someone on in later pregnancy as many are already full.

Blonaybear 04.08.2009 13:38

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Originally Posted by Switzerland2009 (Post 511001)
Does anyone know why this is? If you are coming over as an Ex-Pat there is no way to get better coverage with health insurance?

You have to have a supplementary cover for 12 months before you become pregnant. The reason for this is to avoid the situation where the extra cover was taken just for the birth and then discontinued after.

Switzerland2009 05.08.2009 07:43

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So, let's say hypothetically I move to ZH when I am 30 weeks pregnant :o and hubs comes over as an ex-pat... I would only get the basic insurance from employer no matter how much we want to pay extra?

Mr Happy 05.08.2009 07:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Switzerland2009 (Post 511001)
Does anyone know why this is? If you are coming over as an Ex-Pat there is no way to get better coverage with health insurance?

Firstly, I don't think Lou's info that you are quoting is right. I say this because before living in CH, we lived in DE, and took out private insurance at around 3 or 4 months into the pregnancy. Now DE is not CH, but anyone that has lived in both countries can tell you, they are VERY similar, especially on the legal side. As I stated earlier, private insurance is mandatory here, whether you choose Basic, Full, semi or flexible private is up to you and I don't think that ANY insurance company can refuse you the level of insurance you are interested in. Your present 'condition' will be reflected in the premiums however.

Given what you are saying, e.g. emigrating pregnant. There are two other ways I can think of (but please check my above with an insurance provider).

1. Emigrate but keep your old private insurance and claim Swiss Bills against your old policy.

2. Emigrate, get the basic insurance (as required by law) and then pay personally for any extra private bills you wish to have. Though be warned my last birth cost around 18,000 CHF, I had to pay 2,500 excess and 25% of the bills so around 7,000 CHF and the remaining 11,000 was paid by the insurance company. Bare in mind, this was with flexible private insurance. Insurance is NEVER as full and complete as you like to think it is. One of my pet hates about CH is the never-ending flow of medical bills coming through the letter box.

Mr Happy 05.08.2009 07:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Switzerland2009 (Post 511923)
So, let's say hypothetically I move to ZH when I am 30 weeks pregnant :o and hubs comes over as an ex-pat... I would only get the basic insurance from employer no matter how much we want to pay extra?

We missed each other by 6 minutes...

I think you are exactly on the right track. My agent is Andy - Andre.Mattle@swisslife.ch

I've sent him this mail this morning:

Hi Andy,

Quick question for you. If a friend emigrated to Switzerland at 30 weeks pregnant, can she get full or flexible private insurance like we have? I only ask as she's not keen on the basic insurances because in the UK that's so bad and so private is quite important for her. Regards from...

He's on holiday until 20th August but I'll share the answer here.

CH_Me 05.08.2009 08:24

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Most hospitals offer an upgrade package from basic to a half-private room and a private room. For every hospital stay i've had a private room at CHF 200-250 per day out of my own pocket and I have chosen the doctor to do operations on their scheduled working days at the hospital.

IMHO you can get more value out of the other suplementary insurance that pays for fitness classes and gym membership.

newswiss 05.08.2009 14:54

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Originally Posted by Lou (Post 23466)
It's amazing to me how different birth is in different parts of the same country! I've had 2 babies in Kanton Zurich one in a private hospital and one in the local regional hospital. Both of them activley encouraged birth to be as natural a process as possible. Both discouraged giving birth on your back and drip needles are only given when needed. The private hspital also had special birthing beds that can move into all sorts of positions to make life easier.

Hi Lou

We wil be moving to switzerland from India in october 2009, my wife is due for delivery in november. Can u throw some light in the cost of delivering a baby in private/government nursing home in private/semi private room.

Thank you very much for the reply


Regards
Kumar

Mr Happy 06.08.2009 00:12

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Kumar,

can your wife even get on a flight? e.g. will an airline take her? Most airlines will not carry anyone 35 weeks or more into their pregnancy.


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