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Smoking in cars with children banned in England and Wales

Will there be a similar ban here in Switzerland as well soon?

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34409665
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Will there be a similar ban here in Switzerland as well soon?

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34409665
I doubt it - as 1cm from a public building/train door/bus entrance etc. smoking's considered fair game.

Looking forward to the next eternal pro/con smoking thread.
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Old 01.10.2015, 16:59
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Will there be a similar ban here in Switzerland as well soon?
I doubt it as smokers rights as voted in by direct democracy comes before the health of children who don't get a vote.

Hurrah for direct democracy for health care! *

* But don't worry as they voted instead to allow funding of homeopathic treatment on basic health care so your compulsory insurance pays for sugar pills.

Hurrah again!
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Re: Smoking in cars with children banned in England and Wales

When I was younger it was acceptable to smoke with kids in the car. I remember my Grandad would barely crack the window and we would be chocked from the smoke whilst sitting in the back seat . . . . However, he was usually bringing us to get ice-creams so... we were okay with it


Wonder how long itll be till they are completely banned from cars. I recall reading somewhere that they can be as distracting as phones (I donít think they are that distracting)


(Maybe something was mentioned in the video but I am unable to watch it)
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Re: Smoking in cars with children banned in England and Wales

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So was corporal punishment - whether in the car or not

I saw the news today and immediately thought of "Smoking on the train platforms" thread... and of the bus stations in Lausanne that recently had new ashtrays installed inside the bus shelters
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Re: Smoking in cars with children banned in England and Wales

Illegal to smoke in a car with a child onboard
Legal to smoke when pregnant



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Old 01.10.2015, 18:12
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Illegal to smoke in a car with a child onboard
Legal to smoke when pregnant
However it's self-limiting to an extent as smoking decreases both the chance of the woman becoming pregnant and increases the chances of a miscarriage.
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Old 01.10.2015, 18:11
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When I was younger it was acceptable to smoke with kids in the car. I remember my Grandad would barely crack the window and we would be chocked from the smoke whilst sitting in the back seat . . . . However, he was usually bringing us to get ice-creams so... we were okay with it


Wonder how long itll be till they are completely banned from cars. I recall reading somewhere that they can be as distracting as phones (I donít think they are that distracting)


(Maybe something was mentioned in the video but I am unable to watch it)
I remember when seat belts were not mandatory. Little kids could sit in the front seat (without seat belts). I also remember sitting in the back of pickup trucks (5-10 of us) flying down the interstates. Times are a changin'.
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When I was younger it was acceptable to smoke with kids in the car. I remember my Grandad would barely crack the window and we would be chocked from the smoke whilst sitting in the back seat . . . . However, he was usually bringing us to get ice-creams so... we were okay with it


Wonder how long itll be till they are completely banned from cars. I recall reading somewhere that they can be as distracting as phones (I donít think they are that distracting)


(Maybe something was mentioned in the video but I am unable to watch it)

Good idea to ban children from cars; they are distracting
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Good idea to ban children from cars; they are distracting


Certainly more distracting than phones.
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Hurrah for direct democracy for health care! *

* But don't worry as they voted instead to allow funding of homeopathic treatment on basic health care so your compulsory insurance pays for sugar pills.

Hurrah again!
Say what? Placebos are covered?
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Old 01.10.2015, 23:34
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Say what? Placebos are covered?
Homeopathic treatment is covered.

But nothing surprises me here. (The article linked to in this thread about Appenzell Inner Rhoden kids smoking also stated that in that Canton, women didn't get the vote until 1991!)
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(The article linked to in this thread about Appenzell Inner Rhoden kids smoking also stated that in that Canton, women didn't get the vote until 1991!)
Legend has it that in the vote as to whether women could have the vote, in which the women were allowed to vote, the women voted against having the vote, but despite the cantonal vote on the vote voting against the vote, the federal voting vote which had voted that all cantons must give women the vote, the women who voted against the vote were outvoted and were give the vote anyway.
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Will there be a similar ban here in Switzerland as well soon?

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34409665
Given that it's legal for children to smoke at cattle shows in some parts of Switzerland I can't see that happening here any time soon.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/culture-...smoke/41694170
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For my new year's resolution I've decided to only smoke after sex.

If this year is anything to go by, it looks like I've quit.
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Given that it's legal for children to smoke at cattle shows in some parts of Switzerland I can't see that happening here any time soon.

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/culture-...smoke/41694170
We have the same in Glarnerland.

I've heard it argued that letting children try it (and cough their guts up) removes the "forbidden fruit" aspect of smoking and serves as a disincentive to take it up properly later. No idea if there's any truth in that.
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Re: Smoking in cars with children banned in England and Wales

Yes and to my horror, I see so many pregnant women smoking in Switzerland.
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We have the same in Glarnerland.

I've heard it argued that letting children try it (and cough their guts up) removes the "forbidden fruit" aspect of smoking and serves as a disincentive to take it up properly later. No idea if there's any truth in that.
Probably not much as most lifelong committed smokers start when they are young.
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Re: Smoking in cars with children banned in England and Wales

Well done to UK and Wales. The question is how to implement such a law.

Unfortunately for Switzerland they have a big problem with a large number of kids barely out of school that are already heavy smokers.

It seems to me that the legal age to buy cigarettes in Switzerland is very low compared to other European countries. Is it 16?
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It seems to me that the legal age to buy cigarettes in Switzerland is very low compared to other European countries. Is it 16?
It was increased to 18 this year.
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