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Confirmation of Marriage Preparation

Hi EF members,

Me and my girlfriend have just submitted our marriage preparation documents in Luzern. I am from Asia and she is Swiss. The lady at the Regionales Zivilstandamt printed out and gave us a letter "Bestatigung eines pendenten Ehevorbereitungsverfahrens".

The lady told us that it can take 3-4 months to verify the documents from my country, and they will now send my documents to the Swiss Embassy in my country. This duration is an estimated time, and it may take earlier than this or even a bit longer. We payed 1000 CHF as a processing fee, and she told us that we would get back some amount as reimbursement after processing is complete. The lady said that they would send us a letter after everything is confirmed from their side.

After I have received confirmation from Zivilstandamt that my documents are all okay, then what is the next step? I read on the forum that we would have to give them a date for marriage? For instance, after we give them a date, then we would need to go and register for marriage on that day along with two witnesses? Is this the procedure? If anyone has been through this process lately, it would be good if I can get their experience.

Also, I read on the forum, that they might ask my documents to be translated into one of the official Swiss languages (DE, FR, IT). My documents are in English, so I am not sure, if I would need to get them translated.

How long after we get married, does it take to obtain the marriage certificate? Also, how long would it take for me to obtain the residence permit after we have married (i.e., obtained the marriage certificate)?

All help is appreciated!
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Re: Confirmation of Marriage Preparation

When we got married we picked a date for the official state marriage (party was 6 months later.

took about 45 min where you sit with your 2 witnesses who sign the docs. our paperwork was in French (had to be) . Then your marriage certificate is send out.

I already had my B permit so cant help you there.
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Re: Confirmation of Marriage Preparation

Once you get approval you have to have the civil service within 3 months.. Or you'll have to apply all over again!
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Re: Confirmation of Marriage Preparation

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Once you get approval you have to have the civil service within 3 months.. Or you'll have to apply all over again!
That and English is an accepted language for your documents in Zurich at least (I'm not sure for LU though)
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Re: Confirmation of Marriage Preparation

(Canton Zurich) When we handed in my foreign documents we had to make the date for the ceremony, as the documents would have expired if we`d waited any longer to decide on date (docs from 3rd world country had taken sooo long to arrive here!), and as said above the whole ritual would have had to be repeated again, from scratch. Mine were valid for only 3 months from date on them. We were advised to set our date for official ceremony before expiration date of documents..

Marriage certificate arrived within a week by post.

As for the visa change, one has to be married for 3 years.
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(Canton Zurich) When we handed in my foreign documents we had to make the date for the ceremony, as the documents would have expired if we`d waited any longer to decide on date (docs from 3rd world country had taken sooo long to arrive here!), and as said above the whole ritual would have had to be repeated again, from scratch. Mine were valid for only 3 months from date on them. We were advised to set our date for official ceremony before expiration date of documents..

Marriage certificate arrived within a week by post.

As for the visa change, one has to be married for 3 years.

Thank you for the everyone for the help. The lady at the Zivilstandsamt informed that my documents are valid 6 months, from the date of issue. After 3-4 months of processing and verification, we will have to register the marriage within the 6 months time frame, after we initially submitted the documents.

It seems after the marriage has been registered, the marriage certificate is sent quite quickly, which is good.
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Re: Confirmation of Marriage Preparation

congratulations!! yes, itīs normally like that: you canīt get married 10 days after they have approved your right to get married in Switzerland, and then several months afterwards. If people donīt use that chance of several months, then they have to start application process all over again.
However, it used to be only 3 months to get married after approval - at least a bit earlier, I got married here in 2014 under that rule and some of my couples as well (Im a wedding planner so familiarise myself with the topic a lot). But if they confirmed for you officially regarding the 6 months, itīs even better! and good to know for future reference, thank you))

Have a wonderful wedding!!
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Re: Confirmation of Marriage Preparation

Hi Guys,

Thanks for all of your inputs. I had to register a new EF account, as I was unable to access the previous one.

Just to update: Today I received confirmation from Zivilstandsamt Luzern that my civil documents from the Swiss Embassy in Islamabad have been verified and returned back, and now we have to make an appointment with Zivilstandsamt within 10 days by telephone, to provide them our date for marriage registration. We can get married after 10 days, and not later than 3 months. Apparently, when I called and asked them, they said for July they are fully booked since its the summer, so we have to give a date somewhere in August. We now have to talk to our witnesses (my girlfriend's Swiss friends), to finalize a date and give it to Zivilstandsamt.



The time line of events is as follows:


February 28: Went back to Pakistan to obtain my civil documents

March 1 - 18: Obtained my birth certificate, affidavit from parents that I am single (legalized by a notary public), an unmarried certificate (issued by the cantonment office in the area/locality where I live), and a family registration certificate (with parents and siblings information; issued by NADRA). Got all these documents verified by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in my city

March 20: Returned back to Switzerland

March 24: Submitted all my civil documents to Zivilstandsamt Luzern and received a confirmation for the preparation of marriage

April 14: Was notified by Zivilstandsamt Luzern that the Swiss Embassy in Islamabad requires me to fill out a questionnaire form (this form is available on the Swiss Confederation website at: https://www.eda.admin.ch/content/dam...tus_EN.pdf.pdf)

April 20: Filled in the questionnaire, attached copies of relevant supporting documents (national ID card including old one, old passport copies, old school certificates, parents and siblings passports and ID cards etc; see the entire list here: https://www.eda.admin.ch/content/dam...0NATIONALS.pdf), and submitted them to Zivilstandsamt

April 21: Zivilstandsamt sent these documents back to the Swiss Embassy in Islamabad to finally start the verification process (due to this, 1 month was actually wasted, as Zivilstandsamt did not initially inform me that I had to submit this questionnaire along with my civil documents for verification)

May 30: A private investigator hired by the Swiss Embassy visited my house in Pakistan. He called one day in advance at my residence in Pakistan, and notified my family he would be coming to our house the next morning. So my family was prepared. He met my parents and grandparents. As evidence, he interviewed my family, took a photo of me (when I was a child) from a picture album, made a video of my parents declaring oath that I am not married. He asked many questions to my family (all of which cannot be mentioned here) and also had lunch (yes you have to treat him as a special guest, if you want your job to be done nicely and quickly). He also called me in Switzerland directly from his phone for a few minutes (he had my number already saved), and let me speak with my parents (I guess to verify, if I am truly their son). He asked my parents to bring him to all the authorities (i.e., cantonment boards) from where my civil documents (birth certificate, single affidavit, unmarried certificate etc) were issued, in order to verify them. He came in the morning around 8-9am and everything was done by 5pm. He informed my parents that he will submit my verified documents to the Swiss Embassy as soon as possible, as my case was clear. In generosity, he also informed them that, he had to make a NOC (I presume this means, no objection certificate) from a police station, which he also had to submit to the Swiss Embassy.

July 5: Received confirmation from Zivilstandsamt that they have received my verified documents from the Swiss Embassy in Islamabad, and that we can register for marriage after 10 days, and not later than 3 months.
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Re: Confirmation of Marriage Preparation

Oh wow, what a long process and detailed iverstigation.. Congratulations it's all over now and you can be happily married to your beloved!!
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Also, how long would it take for me to obtain the residence permit after we have married (i.e., obtained the marriage certificate)?
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As for the visa change, one has to be married for 3 years.
You get a B from the start after marriage, but it contains "Verbleib beim Ehepartner"
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AlexWales: Thanks, yes I suppose for Non-EU, third world nationals, the process is definitely more longer. On the forum, I came across more longer processing times for other people. However, mine was a bit faster as I was already in Switzerland since 5 years.

curley: Thanks for the info! Yes, I will be expecting that soon in the mail, after we get married next week



Just to update regarding the final phase of the marriage process:


Jul 5: Received confirmation from Zivilstandsamt that my civil documents have been verified by the Embassy in my country. Now, we need to make an appointment with Zivilstandsamt within 10 days, meaning latest by 15 Jul.

As my permit is due expiration on 31 Jul, on Jul 7 we visited Amt fur Migration and got the telephone number of the lady there who previously handled my permit case. Then on the same day we visited Zivilstandsamt and asked Zivilstandsamt to speak with that lady at Amt fur Migration. When Zivilstandsamt called Amt fur Migration, unfortunately that lady was not in office. However, after we left Zivilstandsamt, a few minutes later Zivilstandsamt called us and said that they had talked with Amt fur Migration and we can get married before 31 Jul. Zivilstandsamt then gave us an appointment for 13 Jul.

Zivilstandsamt informed us, that since my German is not very good (I can understand basic A1/A2, but speak only A1), we need a translator (dolmetscher/dolmetscherin) for the appointment. Apparently in the Zentralschweiz area only Caritas Luzern handle such tasks. On Jul 8, I went to Caritas Luzern and told them that we need a translator on 13 Jul at Zivilstandsamt, but Caritas told me that I need to inform them at least 4 working days in advance (as 2 days of the weekend were in between). Then we called Zivilstandsamt the same day (8 Jul), and they asked us to check other places for translators and let them know by the next working day (11 Jul) if we were not able to find one or not, otherwise they would have to change our appointment date.

My girlfriend asked her friends for translators, and I franticly called many places in Luzern (even in Zurich or Bern), but we were not able to find anyone within this short period of time. After this we realized that, only Caritas Zentralschweiz was authorized for this task and knew licensed translators. Eventually on 11 Jul, we called Zivilstandsamt and they shifted our appointment to 15 Jul. Then immediately I went to Caritas on the same day, and they hooked us up with a German-English translator on 15 Jul, with a cost of 125 CHF.



Jul 15: The translator came on time to Zivilstandsamt, a few minutes before the appointment time. We went inside and I was asked to show my passport, permit and my girlfriend showed her Swiss ID card (not sure what is the correct name in German for that). After that both of us were asked to fill a few forms, and the translator helped to explain me the marriage rules and regulations.

They also informed me to check my details and particulars (my name before and after marriage, date of birth, parents names etc) if everything was correct. After we filled in the forms, we were told that, we can only get married after 10 days (as they have to put up a public notification regarding our marriage during these 10 days). This means that, we can get married starting from 26 Jul, until the 3 months period, which is 17 Oct.

Then they gave us two options to get married before 31 Jul: (A) 27 Jul at Zivilstandsamt (cost around 320 CHF) or (B) 29 Jul at the Rathaus in Luzern (cost around 590 CHF). We picked the first option (A) for the Ziviltrauung, and I immediately paid the 320 CHF. The lady at Zivilstandsamt also asked us, if we wanted to exchange rings, and we said definitely yes. She gave us both confirmation letters for the marriage registration (Ziviltrauung) date, and a form which had to be filled by our two witnesses and submitted during the Ziviltrauung. In addition, she also gave us a fact sheet in German and in English from the Swiss Confederation which lists the rules, rights and obligations of the marriage (Merkblatt uber die Ehe in der Schweiz: Rechte und Pflichten). The whole appointment process took only 30 mins.

We also had to arrange another translator for our Ziviltrauung. On the same day (15 Jul), I went to Caritas Luzern to inform them for a translator on 27 Jul. Two days later, I called Caritas, and the said they are still searching for a translator (they called a few people, but did not get a response from anyone). The next day, I emailed them, and got a similar response, that they are still looking for a translator. Finally on 21 Jul, I went over to Caritas, and told them we could not change the Ziviltrauung date (due to my permit issue, we have already informed our witnesses and friends who will be attending, and had made dinner reservations in the evening on that day). Caritas said, they were not able to find any translator (in English or in my native languages) on that day, as it is holiday season and many people are away.

As I have been living in Lugano since 5 years, and I am well accustomed to Italian (not a professional Italian speaker, but can understand relatively well and speak to a good extent), they found an Italian translator for our Ziviltrauung. Finally, I asked Caritas to call Zivilstandsamt to confirm with them, if a German-Italian translator was okay for my case, since I am not a native Italian speaker, and my mother tongue is not Italian.

Zivilstandsamt told Caritas that, as I am good at understanding Italian (on some previous visits to Zivilstandsamt I did talk with them in Italian, also in English, and basic German), it is okay from them. So finally, we have an Italian translator, and have to pay another 125 CHF, but everything is finally settled now.



I will definitely follow up with probably one more final post, with the post-marriage procedure.

Ah, the new account that I created was banned. Didn't know that this would happen (should have read the forum rules more carefully). However, I was able to finally recover the old account.

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I will definitely follow up with probably one more final post, with the post-marriage procedure.
I think most of us have an idea what happens after you marry?
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Thank you so much for explaining in such detail about how long things took. And also the options they gave you for the venue. I wrote out a long post of my own, but you pretty much answered almost all of my questions about what to expect. (Sorry, I don't have enough posts to make an official thanks).

And congratulations!
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I think most of us have an idea what happens after you marry?
You mean this: I am pregnant – What to expect when expecting in Switzerland?
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