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Vaccine Question

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Is there someone here that didn't vaccinate their children?
I'm interested in a pediatrician in Basel/ Rheinfelden area that would be against vaccination.

Thank you!
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Re: Vaccine Question

Yeah, good luck finding a pro-disease doctor.
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Hi there,

Is there someone here that didn't vaccinate their children?
I'm interested in a pediatrician in Basel/ Rheinfelden area that would be against vaccination.

Thank you!
The reason against vaccination is....?
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The reason against vaccination is....?
I assume is the old BS about MMR vaccine leading to autism. Or somethin'.
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Re: Vaccine Question

This should be first world problem.
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Hi there,

Is there someone here that didn't vaccinate their children?
I'm interested in a pediatrician in Basel/ Rheinfelden area that would be against vaccination.

Thank you!
You don't need an anti-vaxx doc, simply say that you don't want your kid vaxxed. Full stop.

I'd absolutely not recommend that though (endangering others and all...), but since I have neither the time nor the nerve for yet another anti-vaxx discussion (search the forum in case you want to read up on the subject rather than reposting the issues which already have been chewed to death on here) I'll leave it be here, lean back and watch this thread disintegrate

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This should be first world problem.
It should not become or remain a first world (or any world) problem, but tell that to an anti-vaxxer...
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Re: Vaccine Question

There are a number of outlets offering homeopathic vaccination as an alternative, if you're open to that approach. Before going down this route, though, it's worth noting that there are sometimes side effects with homeopathic treatment. These include:

- Polio
- Diphtheria
- Tetanus
- Mumps
- Measles
- Rubella
- Pertussis
- Meningitis
- Influenza
- Rotavirus
- Varicella

As long as these side effects don't worry you, you should feel totally comfortable about taking a homeopathic approach.
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Re: Vaccine Question

Thank you all!

My question on the forum is not weather to vaccinate or not but rather if you know someone that didn't vaccinate or if you yourself chose not to vaccinate your child.
I think it's much easier for a parent to follow the crowds than asking questions. So, unfortunately for me, I decided not to chose the easy path and I'm in the research mode now.
I also believe that not all anti-vaccine scientists are stupid as not all pro-vaccine are necessary smart or they truly understand the topic. It's easy to find a pro-vaccine doctor (the school teaches this way) while it's not so easy to find in person an anti-vaccine one (even though I know they exist).
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Re: Vaccine Question

I hope you are willing to reconsider your uninformed opinion as not only will your own kids be at risk for preventable diseases while they have no choice in the matter but also you will contribute to reduce the herd-immunity so that non-immunized children are susceptible to infections - this includes kids too young to be vaccinated or immune-compromised (e.g. kids suffering from cancer). If you are not, please don't forget to inform your schools/day care centres so parents like me have the choice to stay away.

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It's easy to find a pro-vaccine doctor (the school teaches this way) while it's not so easy to find in person an anti-vaccine one (even though I know they exist).
And that doesn't worry you?
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I hope you are willing to reconsider your uninformed opinion as not only will your own kids be at risk for preventable diseases while they have no choice in the matter but also you will contribute to reduce the herd-immunity so that non-immunized children are susceptible to infections - this includes kids too young to be vaccinated or immune-compromised (e.g. kids suffering from cancer). If you are not, please don't forget to inform your schools/day care centres so parents like me have the choice to stay away.
As part of my research, I'm asking why you, a parent of a vaccinated child, would be afraid of a not vaccinated one. Isn't the vaccine supposed to protect?
I truly understand why I should be afraid (if the decision in the end would be not to vaccinate), but don't understand why you should.
I see even if I do vaccinate I would be afraid of potentially not vaccinated colleagues. What's the point then?
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Thank you all!

My question on the forum is not weather to vaccinate or not but rather if you know someone that didn't vaccinate or if you yourself chose not to vaccinate your child.
I think it's much easier for a parent to follow the crowds than asking questions. So, unfortunately for me, I decided not to chose the easy path and I'm in the research mode now.
I also believe that not all anti-vaccine scientists are stupid as not all pro-vaccine are necessary smart or they truly understand the topic. It's easy to find a pro-vaccine doctor (the school teaches this way) while it's not so easy to find in person an anti-vaccine one (even though I know they exist).
Diseases which had been previously eradicated are now returning because people have stopped vaccinating their children.

Your decision to not vaccinate could kill another child.
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Re: Vaccine Question

If only there was a vaccination for ignorance...
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Thank you all!

My question on the forum is not weather to vaccinate or not but rather if you know someone that didn't vaccinate or if you yourself chose not to vaccinate your child.
I think it's much easier for a parent to follow the crowds than asking questions. So, unfortunately for me, I decided not to chose the easy path and I'm in the research mode now.
I also believe that not all anti-vaccine scientists are stupid as not all pro-vaccine are necessary smart or they truly understand the topic. It's easy to find a pro-vaccine doctor (the school teaches this way) while it's not so easy to find in person an anti-vaccine one (even though I know they exist).
"the easy path" - tell that to those who get infected by a crippling, possibly deadly disease due to non-vaccination.

You might find people here who didn't vaccinate, but don't expect those who do vaccinate to give you links to those who you search. Also, a forum will not only give you answers you want, but rather answers which those who frequent the forum and your threads deem necessary to give.

As to finding an anti-vaccinating doctor, I told you above that you don't need such a doctor to achieve non-vaccination of your kid. Simply stand your ground - and accept the consequences.

The Search Function On EF Yields...
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As part of my research, I'm asking why you, a parent of a vaccinated child, would be afraid of a not vaccinated one. Isn't the vaccine supposed to protect?
This topic was discussed many times before, just do a quick search on EF.
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I decided not to chose the easy path and I'm in the research mode now.
Your looking for an anti-vaccination doctor seems to indicate you have already decided which direction your reasearch will take you in.
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Re: Vaccine Question

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Re: Vaccine Question

You asked the wrong question. I would be shocked if you could even find a medically trained doctor who is anti-immunisation, even the ones who are happy to 'prescribe' homeopathic remedies for non-life-threatening illnesses...

Instead, if you don't wish your children to be immunised, then you speak to the Paediatrician and discuss what quarantine requirements and precautions you should take because you will not consent to them being immunised.

I work with many many many families and only one parent I know is on a varied immunisation schedule by choice, and certainly not a 'zero' immunisation.

You can be as sincere as you like, and be sincerely wrong.

I know two families whose children caught vaccine-preventable Meningococcal. The vaccine is quite new and wasn't available when their children got ill. One spent 5 months in hospital and was not expected to live, and wrote off his chances of completing university (his brain was never the same again)...he had just started first year university. The other child died within 3 days of showing symptoms, she was 12 years old.
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And that doesn't worry you?
no, this doesn't worry but would be too long to explain why and would change the topic of this thread.
Some of us die only with the knowledge from school.
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no, this doesn't worry
Er...OK.
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