Arthur's picture made me find this.
One can buy all kinds of stuff from cannabis here apparantely. Very interesting.

And more (food etc.)

Yeah, saw that in my Reformhaus a while ago.
A whole table with stuff made from hemp.
And now they even have a hemp-bread (which doesn't taste too bad, although of course can't compare to a decent rye-bread).

THC-depleted, as I call it.

We'll have to see how much of a market that actually is - and if the demand doesn't die-off after the initial hype.

You may be aware that the cigs sold at Coop are branded "Heimat" (home, homeland), in some Swiss dialects that's pronounced "haimät"

Well, according to the founder, the original idea was to call them "high-mat" - same pronounciation

Cannabis is degenerate, but if you wish so you can buy legal Cannabis at 1% thc.

Serious question here, what do people take CBD for?

From what I've read it is basically a relaxant and can help eliminate stress without getting you high. Kinda of a herbal remedy with a big kick.

Is this correct?

Is there any benefit to this stuff that you can buy in coop etc?
Any negative affects?

(My only encounter with weed was 12 years ago and I coughed so much I don't think I managed to inhale much of anything. Cake was bit better but it didn't seem to do much apart from send me to sleep.)

Pain medication (for e.g. people with multiple sclerosis).

Friend of mine takes it for pain medication and also as she believes this will reduce cancer cells.

The majority of the cases I have read about are about pain relief.

Parkinson patients.

Is CDB legal in Germany?

I have no interest in it or the real thing, but I'm thinking it may be something for my mother.

Looks like it is, since October last year. Available freely provided it's consumed as a "Nahrungsergänzung" (nutritional supplement) rather than a drug. This is also what you or she want to answer when questioned, I think usage as drug requires prescription by a doc.

Perhaps ask for Cannabidiol, should be available in the typical Apotheke (drug store).

Amazon will deliver.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41734179

CBD based strains are now available in Kiosks, and also in the new trend of "weed culture stores" that are popping up....Cannaflora (@ Limmatplatz Zürich ) its pretty good.

In terms of why people use it, well it can be for recreation, relaxing (same reason why people may want to drink a beer after work, ie to just enjoy the evening or relax), and ofcourse medical reasons too (which not everybody believes in, but that's fair enough)

But there are proven benefits of CBD and also THC, but that's another topic, and you can do your own research on that..... and ofcourse there are also many people who think "drugs are bad" (and some of those same people don't see alcohol as a drug / personally I prefer weed over alcohol, I do drink, but I don't drink heavy).

If anyone fancies a chill out some time let me know , cheers.

Roegner asked about purchase and consumption within Germany only. Cannabidiol in CH can be a tricky thing because of its general connection with THC.

You want to be careful when importing, it may get you into significant trouble, doesn't matter if you have it delivered to a German address and take it across the border or have it delivered to a Swiss address.

Perhaps start here for reliable information and agencies to ask, even if just to make sure.

CBD oil - preparations without THC* - is starting to be used in veterinary medicine. Unfortunately there are few (maybe no?**) serious scientific peer-reviewed studies on it's efficacy, so it really is being tried here on an anecdotal basis. There are claims that it might help with inflammation/pain, so for dogs who cannot take the usual pain meds it might be worth trying.

We've tried it with the ancient Belltie, admittedly as more of a 'hail Mary pass'. At this point we have nothing to lose. Does it work? Honestly I can't say. The Belltie is still here (and celebrating his 17th birthday today!), but he's on half the pharmacy at the moment so who can say if it is anything more than a placebo.

*Note - Marijuana with THC is toxic to dogs. Do not, under any circumstances, feed any your dog. If your dog has accidentally got hold of something, get to the vet ASAP, and be honest as to what he has injested.

CBD oil is althogether different, as it contains no THC. However, the concentration needs to be appropriate to the dog's size and condition and not be contraindicated wrt your dog's concurrent medical regime. Do not give it to your dog without consultating your vet!

** FYI, I remember reading in some vet med blog or other that it is still illegal in the US to conduct studies into marijuana use, including CBD oil - can anyone in the pharma community confirm?

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Another FYI for those inquiring about medical marijuana, with THC, for treatment of chronic debilitating pain:

A friend has recently gone that route. In Switzerland your doctor must first submit an application 'to Bern' (as my friend described it, I assume she meant the BAG) putting forth the medical case as to why it should be used. If approved, you are given a time-limited permit. The doctor's prescription can only be filled at the one pharmacy in all of Switzerland licensed to dispense medical marijuana, I believe this Apotheke is in canton Bern. The usual form allowed is a tincure. (Which she says, tastes absolutely disgusting...)

It's quite expensive, my friend's prescription runs ca CHF 300 per week. Generally it is not paid by the KK, an exception might be MS patients. My friend was told that after X months if it is proven to provide pain relief that allows her to keep off morphine she (and her doctor) may re-apply to the KK for a review. But she says she was told that very few patients suffering from something other than MS ever get it covered by the KK, and so needs to be prepared to continue paying out of pocket if it proves effective.

If I understand correctly, the 'Hanfapotheke' that seem to have sprung up everywhere recently are not allowed to dispense medical marijuana, the products they sell are without THC. (Anyone know otherwise?)

The term "medical marijuana" by the scheme you have described above is for the sale of herb where THC exceeds 1%, this is the swiss authorities view on the matter.

"Medical marijuana" can also be CBD rich whilst being less than 1 THC, and so this is available in many places...it's still medicinal as the CBD is also proven to have health benefits.


Of course if one desires THC, legally, then the process you described is the way to get it.

Talked to mom about this.

Her primary concern: being allowed to drive her car (or rather: no longer being allowed to drive, once she takes CDB) ....


She suffered two slipped disks - one in the summer the other in the autumn.

Still suffering pain.

It's clear that she needs to build up her muscles - her doctor says "Just take another Ibuprofen" - and the physio apparently has no opinion and waits for the next recipe...

Germany's healthcare system is in really, really bad shape sometimes.

If it weren't such a logistical (and financial) nightmare, I'd have her treated in Zurich.

I had health problems. Fortunately, I live in Switzerland and legal and CBD rich hemp has arrived on the market. I discovered the company Swiss Medical Cannabis that allowed me to treat me through the CBD. Since then, my pain has lessened. For all those suffering from chronic pain try CBD. It relax all my body and help me to work as normal people

Spot on there with the CBD and driving in Switzerland, the current tests are NOT able to tell the difference between high levels of THC or lower CBD levels.
The Swiss roadside test will tell if you are under the influence at the time of the test but not how much THC is in your system but it also tells them if you are NOT under the influence but are a regular consumer.


The results are the same - you loose your license on the spot & the police will hang follow on charges of possession and purchase.


I have been trying to explain this to my swiss mates who are still under the impression that a friday night joint is no problem and the CBD cigaretes also .. EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW I WAS ON A 2 YEAR BAN !!
After being caught not stoned but caught on a road side test as a regular user.


I'm clean now since 2014 and to be honest IT AINT THAT HARD
HOwever i sympathise with people looking for a wonder cure but don't thing that THC is it ..

Trust me it helped me a lot... And in fact depending on the brand where you buy your ganja. You have to check the analysis. As you know in Switzerland, Nobody is supposed to ignore the law. So when you buy a joint from a company that sells 1-1.5% THC it's normal that it can result by problems... To be sure you can smoke and drive you can smoke one-two joint of weed at 0.3-0.4% THC.

There's very scant reliable information on its anti-cancer properties. Plenty of "studies" from cannabis oil manufacturers, but not so many large independent placebo-controlled studies. Even some of the pain relief and tremor-reducing information is sketchy. I'm not dismissing it entirely, but it needs much more better quality data for me to be convinced that it is anything more than a relaxant.