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I find it hard to believe that in any CH hospital there will be that many beds in one room on the general ward. There were 3 at the Universitaetsspital in Zurich and half my stay there I was sharing with only 1 other lady. All of us in the room had had C-sections and I think they put us together on purpose. I also thought about paying for private ahead, but decided that I could always change if I was not happy and there would be space. In the end I'm happy I didn't - after my emergency CS I actually enjoyed having someone to chat to about the crazy experience I just had been through
Exactly this! I gave birth at UniSpital Zurich and the room was shared between two mums only. I was lucky that I didn't share it with anyone the night after my emergency c-section.
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Re: I am pregnant – What to expect when expecting in Switzerland

Thank you all for the responses!!

I had a private room in the UK after my emergency section and loved the privacy in those first few gruesome days so I am leaning towards having one, at least for the first day considering they're 440chf per night at my selected hospital! But it means hubby and my daughter can stay if I want. Maybe just hubby!!

I too find it hard to believe there would be so many on a ward! Having spoken to my sister in law who gave birth at the same hospital a few years ago there's between 6-8 beds per ward. I still think that's too many people for me!!

I'm going on a hospital tour on the 11th December and due the 3rd Jan (will be before this though as having a section) so I'll get in touch with my gyno for midwife recommendations tomorrow!!

I too find it hard to believe there would be so many on a ward! Having spoken to my sister in law who gave birth at the same hospital a few years ago there's between 6-8 beds per ward. I still think that's too many people for me!!
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Re: I am pregnant – What to expect when expecting in Switzerland

Perhaps some people are confused by what is meant by 'ward'....a hospital ward consists of several rooms...both public and private...even a general ward would not have more the 4 people to a room...the risk of spreading disease would be an issue.

I gave birth 8 weeks ago at Unispital Zurich and I was in a public room. It could fit maximum 3 beds but there was only me and one other lady. We had our own WC which was for patients only (not visitors) and only used by us in that room. I think they prefer to give people as much space as possible and so fill rooms as: 1 patient per public room, before they start putting in a second patient and so forth.

Each room (at Unispital) has an adjoining room where you can nurse bub, bathe bub and change bub's nappy. This room is connected to another bed room but you never see these other patients.

When the midwives need to 'controllier' you all visitors / non-patients are kicked out of the room to give you (the patient) privacy...even spouses are kicked out!

The midwife to patient ratio is very high in Switzerland so the midwives are always quick to respond when you call them. Plus they want to make sure the new mums rest well before going home so any upset babies are quickly whisked away to the nursery so you are rarely bothered by "that other ladies baby". You never know, you are more likely to be kept awake by your own baby than someone else's (speaking from experience! )

If going private be mindful of what the terms are for your insurance...this one needs planning. I thought about it too late and my insurance (SWICA) told me I had to be paying the private insurance premiums for one year before I could go in as a private patient and not pay extra. Instead, I could pay the private premiums and also the private rates...which didn't seem worth doing!

I shared my room with one other. She was ok...seemed to go through every problem one could expect...which gave me some perspective and so I felt "well things could always be worse"!! Plus it was nice to talk to someone when the baby blues kicks in or suddenly you have pain from your c-section especially when they are going through the same thing. Plus, most wards, have a visitor/communal space. So if your roommate has visitors they can go there and dote on the new family addition...or you can escape there when your room gets too crowded (which I did alot)

I didn't organise my midwife at all. As this was my second I didn't really think I'd need one for when I went home. So I went with the "We can organise one for you" from Unispital and I got lucky ! Great midwife with loads of advise who spoke fluent English (can recommend her if you need one) and happy to travel to our home (that is not in Zurich!). So perhaps stressing about the midwife thing is not so critical because your hospital can help you organise those things for you...I guess it only depends on how important it is to you on meeting them beforehand (which I can understand would be important if you want to have them there at the birth)!

Anyway that's my *long* 2 cents!
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If going private be mindful of what the terms are for your insurance...this one needs planning. I thought about it too late and my insurance (SWICA) told me I had to be paying the private insurance premiums for one year before I could go in as a private patient and not pay extra. Instead, I could pay the private premiums and also the private rates...which didn't seem worth doing!
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Thank you so much on this very informative post doneti.

I will be also delivering in Zurich unispital VERY soon and I also had issues because I moved to Switzerland and started my full private insurance less than one year BEFORE I got pregnant. So when it comes to pregnancy related expenses they behave as if I have only basic insurance. After the initial period of being VERY disappointed with this outcome I came to peace with it and all the checkups at the doctor's have been going smoothly.

Now few weeks before the due date we discovered our baby is in breech position and my docotr has scheduled a C section for me. However I just realised I will I guess need a full private medical upgrade for that as she is a Prof Dr (just by chance the one I got from the very beginning as she works Wednesdays with regular patients and not only in the private ward) and only with full private insurance you get those kind of doctors

The costs for this kind of medical upgrade are a bit over 8000 CHF and if we do not get the Medical Upgrade I wonder who will perform the C section?
Has anybody had similar experiences?
We were thinking a natural labor will take place and we did not really mind if some other doctor is there for the delivery (midwives do most of the job anyhow). But now with scheduled C section we just don't know how to proceed?

My husband is super scared that we do not go into hands of some newbie doctor while I am just generally irritateted by the Swiss Healthcare system

oh btw these 8000 and some are really just for the doctor to be present. The costs do not include half private or private accommodation, those come under extra expenses. And all of this for someone who actually has full private insurance!! Ludacris!
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Now few weeks before the due date we discovered our baby is in breech position and my docotr has scheduled a C section for me. However I just realised I will I guess need a full private medical upgrade for that as she is a Prof Dr (just by chance the one I got from the very beginning as she works Wednesdays with regular patients and not only in the private ward) and only with full private insurance you get those kind of doctors

The costs for this kind of medical upgrade are a bit over 8000 CHF and if we do not get the Medical Upgrade I wonder who will perform the C section?
Has anybody had similar experiences?
We were thinking a natural labor will take place and we did not really mind if some other doctor is there for the delivery (midwives do most of the job anyhow). But now with scheduled C section we just don't know how to proceed?

My husband is super scared that we do not go into hands of some newbie doctor while I am just generally irritateted by the Swiss Healthcare system
Hi there Magnolia. I had a planned c-section for my second (who is now just 12 weeks old). No private insurance and was at Unispital Zurich. Didn't get to choose my doctor / surgeon (but who would I know anyway!) and was very happy with the procedure.

So you do not have to have full private insurance to have a c-section. I certainly didn't and was not out of pocket for the procedure because I didn't request a specific surgeon etc etc.

I don't really want to go into all the detail but for a c-section there is quite a large team in there with you. About 10 different medical staff each with their own task. I have no idea how much experience each of them had, perhaps some of them were 'new' but in any case, they all seemed competent and certainly very experienced staff were there.

I don't think the hospital would allow just anyone to perform the procedure, they have due diligence to adhere to and medical standards in Switzerland are some of the highest in the world. You'll be in safe hands.

If you're apprehensive about this, I would discuss with your doctor. They can reassure you that all staff are competent etc. Especially when its a scheduled c-section, they have time to place the incision etc etc...not always the case when its an emergency c-section.

I've had both a natural and c-section now and I honestly can't say which is 'preferable'. At the end of the day, its more important that baby is born safely, so try not to be too nervous about it or disappointed that it is a c-section and not natural. Focus on the end game, your beautiful and healthy baby.

Good luck!
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Hi all, I have a question for those that have had planned c-sections here in Switzerland. I'm due the 4th Jan but have told my gynocologist I would like a planned section this time after a horrific emergency c-section in the UK. He keeps telling me we'll discuss it nearer the time so I'm not getting any answers out of him yet!
Do they schedule you in for surgery during your 39th week like in the UK so as to avoid you going into labour naturally? Or do they just leave you to it until you're in labour and go to hospital at the first signs?
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Re: I am pregnant – What to expect when expecting in Switzerland

Hi docneti,
thank you so much for your post! Sounds really reassuring and positive.
we'll look into different options and then decide. I guess as you said we should relax and trust all doctors and not only the leading few from the hospital...

I am just pissed about the situation with the health insurance

Teaplease, not sure how it works for elective C section but in my case we were waiting for the baby to turn and only few days ago as I started 9th month we scheduled a C section.

Since the baby is breech my doctor absolutely did not want a risk of childbirth starting naturally so she scheduled me for 2 weeks in advance vs due date. I begged and pleased and got it postponed for a few days.
Again, not sure how it all goes for elective C section but I doubt they prefer taking the emergency C section route and he's probably gonna talk about options to you as you start your 9th month in december. Btw you should know that apparently 30 min is all they need to prepare you for regular C section and if we are talking about emergency one, then it's a matter of minutes, but I guess you have experience with that already.
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Hi all, I have a question for those that have had planned c-sections here in Switzerland. I'm due the 4th Jan but have told my gynocologist I would like a planned section this time after a horrific emergency c-section in the UK. He keeps telling me we'll discuss it nearer the time so I'm not getting any answers out of him yet!
Do they schedule you in for surgery during your 39th week like in the UK so as to avoid you going into labour naturally? Or do they just leave you to it until you're in labour and go to hospital at the first signs?
Hi Teaplease,

My doctor advised that the regulations are to conduct a planned c-section 10 to 14 days before the due date. I think in the end because of the demand at the Unispital my planned c-section was 9 days before the due date.

Main reasons for this timing are:
  • So that they can place the incision as low as possible before baby is fully engaged
  • Due dates are an estimate ... it really should be a due period ... so its preferable to schedule at 38 weeks to account for that uncertainty
  • Hospitals are busy places, they need to make sure they have space / staff to meet the demand and this means they book in planned c-sections at your week 34 check-up at the hospital (you might get a little bit of choice on date and time of day)
Note that even if you do have a planned c-section, once you have been booked in for a date and completed the hospital admission forms, if you go into labour you go straight to the hospital.



Good luck with it Teaplease hopefully at your next appointment this is something that is resolved for you, as I can imagine the uncertainty is stressful and if you have other children (which sounds like you do) this is something you definitely don't need at the moment.
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...I will I guess need a full private medical upgrade for that as she is a Prof Dr (just by chance the one I got from the very beginning as she works Wednesdays with regular patients and not only in the private ward) and only with full private insurance you get those kind of doctors

And all of this for someone who actually has full private insurance!!
Please don't panic before you need to. As far as I know, if the head doctor is your doctor then that's who will handle the procedure since it's scheduled. You don't get "downgraded" to a different doctor just because of insurance. Or if you have a complex case that requires the knowledge/assistance of the head doctor then that's still covered by basic insurance.

Check with your insurance to be sure - in fact you can have the doctor and hospital submit paperwork in advance to the insurance to get approval for the payment to the doctor.

All supplemental insurances here are the same - during your first year under their plans, pregnancy is excluded. This will be in the paperwork you signed, you just have to look for it. It sucks, but at least you're not alone.

If you'd prefer a semi-private or private room, you have the option to pay out-of-pocket for that. Some ladies here have said they wound up in a room alone or with only one other mother anyway, so it wasn't such a big deal.

Congrats on your baby!
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Hi Teaplease,

My doctor advised that the regulations are to conduct a planned c-section 10 to 14 days before the due date. I think in the end because of the demand at the Unispital my planned c-section was 9 days before the due date.

Main reasons for this timing are:
  • So that they can place the incision as low as possible before baby is fully engaged
  • Due dates are an estimate ... it really should be a due period ... so its preferable to schedule at 38 weeks to account for that uncertainty
  • Hospitals are busy places, they need to make sure they have space / staff to meet the demand and this means they book in planned c-sections at your week 34 check-up at the hospital (you might get a little bit of choice on date and time of day)
Note that even if you do have a planned c-section, once you have been booked in for a date and completed the hospital admission forms, if you go into labour you go straight to the hospital.



Good luck with it Teaplease hopefully at your next appointment this is something that is resolved for you, as I can imagine the uncertainty is stressful and if you have other children (which sounds like you do) this is something you definitely don't need at the moment.
Thank you docneti for your response. This waiting around is starting to get on my nerves! I'm 34 weeks now and next appointment will be 36 weeks, feels like it's being left till last minute when I want to plan! Especially with Christmas round the corner I'd like to know if I'm having my baby before or after christmas and to plan childcare for my daughter whilst I'll be in hospital - it's not easy when you're living abroad away from family! Fingers crossed I get answers to my questions at my next appointment!!
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Re: I am pregnant – What to expect when expecting in Switzerland

I would also mention that if even if you have a midwife helping after the birth, if breastfeeding remains an ongoing difficulty, it's worth scheduling a lactation consult at the hospital. My midwife just kept encouraging me to do what I was doing, and it wasn't working, but one of the professional lactation consultants at the hospital figured out the problem within about 10 minutes, and after that we were fine. I would re-iterate that breastfeeding is not easy, but there is help available, so better to seek it than just give up. Many people before you will have had the same difficulties, and someone will know what you need to do.
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Re: I am pregnant – What to expect when expecting in Switzerland

This is just a PSA for anyone who's pregnant or thinking of becoming pregnant .

Unfortunately, some employers aren't so forthcoming with information ( to be polite ) .

The last post I saw on EF about maternity leave and maternity rights was back from 2009, and I've found some good information in English.


- Here is a brochure in English (revised 2014) with great information on your rights while working . It includes things like how many hours a week you can work, hazardous or dangerous jobs, working at night, breast feeding at work, being terminated/fired and so much more
https://www.seco.admin.ch/seco/en/ho...hmerinnen.html


- Full-time and part-time employees can receive 80% of their wages ( this is known as maternity allowance ) . You are also allowed 14 weeks of maternity leave ( as of 2017 )
https://www.ch.ch/en/maternity-leave/


- Information on maternity allowance and how to apply with your employer or if you are self employeed .

https://www.bsv.admin.ch/bsv/de/home...cherte/eo.html This is in German, but you can change the language on the website . However, I think the German version offers more information than the English version.

- Maternity allowance application form in English

https://www.ahv-iv.ch/en/Leaflets-fo...plication-Form

Information on family and child allowance . This is something completely different than maternity allowance, although you do also apply through your employer (or your spouse's employer ).

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-allowances/


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Um, I've posted your first link several times in maternity threads - it has lots of useful info and an extensive FAQ section too.
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Re: I am pregnant – What to expect when expecting in Switzerland

I searched 'maternity rights' before posting this, and only got posts from 2009.

I searched again with 'maternity leave' and see your older posts now. Super !

Well, thanks for the previous postings. I guess it doesn't hurt to post again.

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Does anyone know if I attend more than one antenatal courses, if the basic insurance will pay only 150CHF (for one course only) regardless?
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Can someone give any recommendations about the laser engraving[/url] on the rings? I want to make a surprise to my wife and thinking about giving a ring with the name of our baby or something like a bracelet with small letters, what would you prefer?
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Can someone give any recommendations about laser engraving[/URL] on the rings? I want to make a surprise to my wife and thinking about giving a ring with the name of our baby or something like a bracelet with small letters, what would you prefer?
i would use laser engravings and have the forum rules on a bracelet so that you never forget them, as your post looks like promoting your own business but please correct me if i'm wrong.

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No, just to make this gift special! before I gifted her a standard one, but now it should be really unique. (and yes, I think that for woman the jewelry is the best gift ) Or maybe if someone has better ideas - that's would be helpful
I think gin would be much more appreciated by most women.
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You have a nice idea, but it is not.
That's just a link to the shop which was recommended me by my friend and I would like to hear any feedback about it (and my idea in general) plus if someone already did something like this - he/she can share where it was.
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