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Re: Cancer test and treatment options

I'd like to know the update as well. Especially if someone is taking any alternative treatments (i.e. saying "No" to chemo) and pursuing natural treatments such as Gerson therapy, flaxseed oil, apricot seeds, marijuana oil, baking soda, large dose (10x of RDA) of vitamin C, curcumin tablets, etc, knowing that these things could work, will help me somewhat feel good about saying No to chemo.
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Were I to choose treatment for breast cancer again, I'd go through the same course of surgery, chemo, rads and hormone therapy.

If alternative methods make you feel better, give energy, etc then as a suupliment, ok. Alternative methods on their own - the evidence is not in their favor.

In fact, here are the results of a study

https://www.statnews.com/2017/08/29/...tive-medicine/

"Absolute and exclusive belief in natural alternative medicine to cure cancer has devastating consequences. A study out this month in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute looked at 281 patients with non-metastatic breast, lung, colorectal, and prostate cancers who chose to be treated exclusively with an alternative approach, and compared their survival with patients who received conventional cancer treatment. Overall, those in the alternative medicine group were 2.5 times more likely to die. Those with lung cancer were nearly 2.2 times more likely to die, and those with colorectal cancer were 4.5 times more likely. Women with breast cancer fared the worst — with a 5.7 times higher death rate among those who chose only alternative therapies. Several other studies have shown similar outcomes, especially for breast cancer."

And in fact, with chemo, yes, you will loose your hair and feel like crap. However, you can have decent support meds to minimize nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite.

In the end, however, you make your own choice.
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Re: Cancer test and treatment options

Similar info to above, whilst some alternative/complementary therapies might help with chemo side effects, and there is evidence to support this, I've not come across any that have hard evidence that say they actively fight cancer and believe with what I've been going through and am going to go through for the rest of my life I've looked pretty hard.

The vitamin C one is actually quite dangerous because of the side effects or can have, recently read a paper on that one.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/c...ancer-survival
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Following up o on the vitamin C one here is the said paper, in summary can help alleviate some side effects, may reduce chemo effectiveness, by itself it depends on the cancer with some it improves quality of life, in others it speeds up the cancer.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/.../vitamin-c-pdq
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And in fact, with chemo, yes, you will loose your hair...
Hair loss on chemo isn't a fact. It depends on the type and even for some of those that do cause hair loss there are techniques which allow people to keep their hair. Doctors often prescribe more agressive treatment schedules than is really necessary and in these cases some argue they do more harm than good. I think many people though would rather err on the side of caution and not take the risk of not having a potentialy life saving/prolonging treatment plan.
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Hair loss on chemo isn't a fact. It depends on the type and even for some of those that do cause hair loss there are techniques which allow people to keep their hair. Doctors often prescribe more agressive treatment schedules than is really necessary and in these cases some argue they do more harm than good. I think many people though would rather err on the side of caution and not take the risk of not having a potentialy life saving/prolonging treatment plan.
Yes, you're correct. I should have said might loose your hair. For example I lost my hair on epirubicin/cytoxan, but it came back while having taxol. There are also cold caps that one can wear during chemo and some people retain their hair with that method. It's very individual.

In many ways, it's the most visible sign of illness and therefore very difficult for some people to handle.
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Re: Cancer test and treatment options

Well, mine fell out within two weeks of the start of chemo. Was just growing back into a nice *Mia Farrow" look!! When it all fell out with radiotherapy!!

I have lots of hats.

To add to the above - At first i was very depressed about the hair loss. But now, it is a small price to pay to keep this bloody cancer stable!! And it will grow back again, if they don't decide on another agressive treatment. My fingernails are on the way out too.... It gets you down, sometimes. Nothing a good cry can't rectify.

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Re: Cancer test and treatment options

My heart goes out to anyone who has had to suffer through this ghastly illness. It has now hit our family twice : my OH had a radical prostatectomy not long ago, and our son, aged 44 only is now having on-going cystoscopies after necessary treatment for bladder cancer. No-one who has not been through the cancer scene can visualise how tough it is, but a positive attitude we have found is 50% of the cure. Good luck, and thinking of you for thos undergoing the problem at present.
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My partner's hair was a deep auburn colour, but came back black.
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Well, mine fell out within two weeks of the start of chemo. Was just growing back into a nice *Mia Farrow" look!! When it all fell out with radiotherapy!!

I have lots of hats.

To add to the above - At first i was very depressed about the hair loss. But now, it is a small price to pay to keep this bloody cancer stable!! And it will grow back again, if they don't decide on another agressive treatment. My fingernails are on the way out too.... It gets you down, sometimes. Nothing a good cry can't rectify.
Mine too! Two weeks! And i helped it come out by sticking wide packing tape on my head and pulling. Like waxing. Didn't hurt at all and was rather fun. It is tough tho. My mom had the same cancer I did twenty years earlier and on my worst bald days I'd look in the mirror and see her face. (She wasn't as lucky as I). That was the hardest part for me.


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My dear friend chronicled her treatment last year for the Cancer Research UK’s ‘Right Now’ campaign. I was with her the first time she went for a night out wearing the 'Ariel' wig, and saw her get chatted up by a handsome guy 15yrs her junior.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/..._new_campaign/
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Re: Cancer test and treatment options

One thing, my triple chin disappeared and I now have the bone structure on my face I had decades ago!! Or maybe just a bit...

Mine grew back less grey!! Ladies at the Hospital all told me their hair grew back much healthier!! I quite like rubbing my head with cream. And I'm savig on shampoo!!

Little things, little things!!
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Re: Cancer test and treatment options

Our 45 year old son is going for his 6th cystoscopy next Saturday : needless to say, he dislikes this intrusion intensely but realises after bladder cancer, he has little option. We wish him well, but also others who are suffering under similar conditions.
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One thing, my triple chin disappeared and I now have the bone structure on my face I had decades ago!! Or maybe just a bit...

Mine grew back less grey!! Ladies at the Hospital all told me their hair grew back much healthier!! I quite like rubbing my head with cream. And I'm savig on shampoo!!

Little things, little things!!
Always a silver lining!

I stopped dying mine, so save money on that now, and it's curlier!
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After being diagnosed with cancer deceided against treatment ( wouldnt have liked everything being cut out, that they wanted to cut) joined exit and thought ok now lets see what comes.
Then my daughter talked me into going to a Homeopathic clinic in Tessin ( people come from all over the world to go there very famous) and they talked me into having treatment at the Uni spital. They helped me through the treatment ( the nurses couldnt get over that I wasnt sick once, didnt loose my hair and got through 3 months of radiotherapy without having to miss one.
I used to be the biggest disbeliever in homeopathy now still dont really believe in it but the nurses asked me if it was ok if they told other patients about the clinic.
I am now 2 years cancer free (still talk every couple of months with the Doc from Tessin and he still send me remedies to take) They told me they cant cure cancer, but that they can help a lot with the side affects.
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After being diagnosed with cancer deceided against treatment ( wouldnt have liked everything being cut out, that they wanted to cut) joined exit and thought ok now lets see what comes.
Then my daughter talked me into going to a Homeopathic clinic in Tessin ( people come from all over the world to go there very famous) and they talked me into having treatment at the Uni spital. They helped me through the treatment ( the nurses couldnt get over that I wasnt sick once, didnt loose my hair and got through 3 months of radiotherapy without having to miss one.
I used to be the biggest disbeliever in homeopathy now still dont really believe in it but the nurses asked me if it was ok if they told other patients about the clinic.
I am now 2 years cancer free (still talk every couple of months with the Doc from Tessin and he still send me remedies to take) They told me they cant cure cancer, but that they can help a lot with the side affects.
Wow. I’m really glad it’s worked out. But did you have conventional treatment and the alternative stuff to manage side effects?
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Thank you Yes chemo and radiotherapy. They have people there from all over mostly Germans and Russians.
My daughter told me we have it on the doorstep and you dont even want to try (didnt believe in it, humbug!!!)
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Re: Cancer test and treatment options

Hello everyone! Recently I heard about one more alternative remedy for cancer treatment - sprouts (broccoli sprouts, wheat sprouts etc.) And I found one weird electronic book in Russian, that says that sprouts have being used in Switzerland as official method of cancer treatment since 1987, but I could find no confirming information in the Internet. Moreover, my Swiss friends have never heard of that. Is it a lie then?
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Hello everyone! Recently I heard about one more alternative remedy for cancer treatment - sprouts (broccoli sprouts, wheat sprouts etc.) And I found one weird electronic book in Russian, that says that sprouts have being used in Switzerland as official method of cancer treatment since 1987, but I could find no confirming information in the Internet. Moreover, my Swiss friends have never heard of that. Is it a lie then?
Yes, but why not tell us more about it?

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Yes, but why not tell us more about it?

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Thank you! Actually, I have no additional information about that, that's why I asked this question here. In a book that seems suspicious to me (because no links to studies are provided) I have read that in Switzerland since 1987 sprouts are used for cancer treatment. I wanted to find out whether it is true or not, bcz no information in google is available. That's all
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