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Old 31.01.2017, 14:53
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Re: Rules of abortion in Swiss

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Dear SnoopSnoop, Welcome to the English Forum. It can be a great place for expats to send and receive useful information. However, as you have already seen with your first post, there are a massive load of dickheads on here.
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Re: Rules of abortion in Swiss

how did this post get so nasty?
I never normally comment on threads when things take a turn for the worse - but on this thread which is obviously a very emotional and sensitive subject - where did the compassion go in an extremely difficult situation - I personally don't agree with the situation the OP is in and agree they should not be in the situation twice in 6 months - but what is the benefit of being spiteful - surely it just shows the EFers in a poor light - which isn't always the case - generally they are a good bunch with useful information.
the OP was accused of being a troll - surely someone wouldn't write such a post as a troll - or do people really have nothing better to do with their time and I am being extremely naive.
I was just saddened how this post could turn so nasty against someone who is in trouble - assuming this is not a made up story on the internet!
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Old 31.01.2017, 15:13
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surely someone wouldn't write such a post as a troll - or do people really have nothing better to do with their time
Yes, there are people who definitely do that (and have been doing that here)
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Old 31.01.2017, 15:17
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Nope, that's not necessary.
Definitely a troll; only a native English speaker would ever use "nope".
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Old 31.01.2017, 15:22
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the OP was accused of being a troll - surely someone wouldn't write such a post as a troll - or do people really have nothing better to do with their time and I am being extremely naive.
- assuming this is not a made up story on the internet!
When you have taken the trouble to reply to literally hundreds of posts on here, looking up links and official sites to help people who AFTERWARDS give relevant Information, or who turn out to be trolls, one may become cynical. This is particularly the case with threads from 'first time posters' who joined specifically to ask a question as in this thread. I don't much like calling people naive so let's say "inexperienced in EF help me' threads.
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Old 31.01.2017, 15:26
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When you have taken the trouble to reply to literally hundreds of posts on here, looking up links and official sites to help people who AFTERWARDS give relevant Information, or who turn out to be trolls, one may become cynical. This is particularly the case with threads from 'first time posters' who joined specifically to ask a question as in this thread. I don't much like calling people naive so let's say "inexperienced in EF help me' threads.

Yes, and not only do they not provide pertinent information. They distribute groans left right and centre.

Not exactly the best way to encourge people to be understanding or helpful.
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Old 31.01.2017, 15:43
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Definitely a troll; only a native English speaker would ever use "nope".
I don't disagree for a moment with the first part of your post, but I know a number of central Europeans who use "yup" and "nope"... then again, their English is orders of magnitude better than the OP's.
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Old 31.01.2017, 16:18
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I don't disagree for a moment with the first part of your post, but I know a number of central Europeans who use "yup" and "nope"... then again, their English is orders of magnitude better than the OP's.
Spoken, probably, but almost certainly not in writing. I always consider it a strictly British, nay English, peculiarity.
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Old 31.01.2017, 16:54
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Re: Rules of abortion in Swiss

Did you consider ADOPTION?

Once upon a time, when one searched for books on abortion on Amazon, its algorithms happened to offer related results with the question "did you mean adoption?".
Some activists requested to tweak the algorithms to behave.

But I'm a human, so I do ask: it is just 9 months, and there will be more than enough people willing to adopt him/her in Switzerland. You'll save one life.
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Spoken, probably, but almost certainly not in writing. I always consider it a strictly British, nay English, peculiarity.


I use nope quite often. But I also use dude a lot (I saw a lot of Australian movies as a kid...).
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Old 31.01.2017, 21:02
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Definitely a troll; only a native English speaker would ever use "nope".
I feel flattered, I use it all the time ....
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Old 31.01.2017, 21:30
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Re: Rules of abortion in Swiss

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I never will understand people who have to need write answers like that. If you cannot know the story. Maybe she cannot have pills because of thrombose, maybe she is allergic on latex in the same time. Or million another reasons. When you don't know all, you should let your opinion on your head. Maybe you will after that don't looks like foolish dear roegner.



Nope, that's not necessary.
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Old 31.01.2017, 21:32
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Re: Rules of abortion in Swiss

OP - I have sent you a PM with the names of two excellent gynecologists in Bern. Please have your girlfriend get in contact with one or both of them, if you have not already found a doctor. And please go stock up on birth control (whatever she's not allergic to) and use it once this nightmare is over.

If she's really got allergies or whatever, look into natural family planning (Google it). Although NFP is normally used to chart her cycles and check hormone surges in order to time things to get pregnant, logically the same tools can be used to know when to completely abstain.
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If she's really got allergies or whatever, look into natural family planning (Google it). Although NFP is normally used to chart her cycles and check hormone surges in order to time things to get pregnant, logically the same tools can be used to know when to completely abstain.
(Some) gynecologists in CH are, for a lack of better world, brainwashed. One should see a surprised gynecologist doing an ultrasound and asking "how did you know you're having an ovulation right now??". They insist on pharmacological birth control obstinently.
Second thing was almost criminally offending insistence of eliminating any Down syndrome "risk". They basically bully their patients into selective abortion.
There was such pressure I started wondering if both these behaviors are somehow incentivized.
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Old 31.01.2017, 21:58
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(Some) gynecologists in CH are, for a lack of better world, brainwashed. One should see a surprised gynecologist doing an ultrasound and asking "how did you know you're having an ovulation right now??". They insist on pharmacological birth control obstinently.
Second thing was almost criminally offending insistence of eliminating any Down syndrome "risk". They basically bully their patients into selective abortion.
There was such pressure I started wondering if both these behaviors are somehow incentivized.
I can't answer that, but I can say that just because a doctor advocates x or y, it doesn't mean the patient can't decide for herself. I have a mind of my own, and if a doctor's philosophy doesn't fit with my own, I find a different doctor.
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(Some) gynecologists in CH are, for a lack of better world, brainwashed. One should see a surprised gynecologist doing an ultrasound and asking "how did you know you're having an ovulation right now??". They insist on pharmacological birth control obstinently.
Second thing was almost criminally offending insistence of eliminating any Down syndrome "risk". They basically bully their patients into selective abortion.
There was such pressure I started wondering if both these behaviors are somehow incentivized.
I think so. I experienced that and other pressures. Plus when pretty bummed about overmedicated birth (not my choice), resulting in a horrible emergency c-sec after a day of labor, I had a pretty odatious medic quickly run for a formal questionnaire, all excited, to record stats instead of offering common sense bedside manners. Docs here vary between amazing and appaling, in our experience.

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overmedicated birth (not my choice), resulting in a horrible emergency c-sec after a day of labor
It's better than an undermedicated birth + c-section, take it from me who has that t-shirt & scars.
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Old 01.02.2017, 10:20
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(Some) gynecologists in CH are, for a lack of better world, brainwashed. One should see a surprised gynecologist doing an ultrasound and asking "how did you know you're having an ovulation right now??". They insist on pharmacological birth control obstinently.
Second thing was almost criminally offending insistence of eliminating any Down syndrome "risk". They basically bully their patients into selective abortion.
There was such pressure I started wondering if both these behaviors are somehow incentivized.
It might be that the majority of their patients are worshipping at the shrine of the medical experts. They're not used to people who ask informed questions. There does also seem to be a herd mentality.
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Old 01.02.2017, 10:29
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Spoken, probably, but almost certainly not in writing. I always consider it a strictly British, nay English, peculiarity.
Looks like you're wrong, see these search results. Going by poster's details it seems easily half are non-british.
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I think so. I experienced that and other pressures. Plus when pretty bummed about overmedicated birth (not my choice), resulting in a horrible emergency c-sec after a day of labor, I had a pretty odatious medic quickly run for a formal questionnaire, all excited, to record stats instead of offering common sense bedside manners. Docs here vary between amazing and appaling, in our experience.
That's not something particular to Switzerland though. There are good and bad doctors everywhere and the very best doctors don't necessarily have the best bedside manner.
You just have to find one that suits you which may not always be very easy.

I think they generally tend to err on the side of undermedicating rather than overmedicating here personally.
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