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Fair pay for a nanny

We are looking to employ a nanny three days a week with 11 hours each day. The average hourly pay for a nanny is CHF 30 per hour, which would mean CHF 330 per day, 990 per week and over CHF 4000 per month. Extrapolating it, that would translate to CHF 6600 per month if we were to employ a nanny 5 days a week, which seems a lot of money.

A colleague told me that when we employ a nanny for whole days, it is common to pay a pauschal, which is typically between CHF 200 - 250 a day. We are massively confused now.

Please can you give us some guidance?
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Re: Fair pay for a nanny

Don't hire a Nanny?
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Re: Fair pay for a nanny

Unfortunately, we don't have a choice. Happy to pay whatever is fair but just want to ensure we are not ripped off!
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Re: Fair pay for a nanny

In the UK, the term Nanny is used for someone who is qualified as a Nanny- used to be NNEB but now a variety of qualifications are valid.

So- it depends very much on the age of the helper, whether qualified or nor, and how much experience she (or indeed he) has- and also the Canton.

So you need to enquire locally- but yes, on top of wage you will have to pay all the social/insurance cost and give her the statutory amount of holidays (which also depend on age). Best to make enquiries locally. Why don't you Google 'Nanny in Switzerland, Zurich' and see what you get.

Au Pairs are on a totally different status and wage, have to be live-in, only work 30 hours per week and only 15 in sole charge, and mustn't have the same language as the home language of the family.

But yes, it is expensive, and very highly regulated, I am very happy to say.

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The level of experience has more impact on salary than location. Nannies with no specific education cost between CHF 3,200 and CHF 3,800, while experienced educated ones cost between CHF 3,800 and CHF 4,800.

Switzerland has no minimum wages, except for domestic staff. The federal government has set a minimum wage of CHF 18.55 per hour for those with no experience or training, rising to CHF 22.40 for those with experience and qualifications. For a 40 hour week these come out at around CHF 3,200 to CHF 3,900 per month. The rules and rates can be found here in French and German.

Not sure if it would be legal to employ someone for 11 hours per day?
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Minimum wage is 3,500, more with experience.

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We are looking to employ a nanny three days a week with 11 hours each day. The average hourly pay for a nanny is CHF 30 per hour, which would mean CHF 330 per day, 990 per week and over CHF 4000 per month. Extrapolating it, that would translate to CHF 6600 per month if we were to employ a nanny 5 days a week, which seems a lot of money.

A colleague told me that when we employ a nanny for whole days, it is common to pay a pauschal, which is typically between CHF 200 - 250 a day. We are massively confused now.

Please can you give us some guidance?
Have you spoken to your local Gemeinde? They usually have a list of Tagesmutter who would might interested in the work and have an idea of costs for the hours you need covered. AFAIK, they have a set cost for a full or half day, as well as an hourly rate.
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Re: Fair pay for a nanny

Thanks. I presume that the CHF 3800-4800 applies to a 5 day week. Am I right?

If we pay CHF 250 a day, it would be 750 a week and CHf 3000 a month (3 days a week) translating to CHF 5000 for a five day week. Am I right?
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Some people will charge more for part time- as it is not always possible to survive on a 3 day week- and not easy to find another job for 2 days.

There is a minimum, but no maximum! Just depends, as said, on local conditions, age, experience, qualifications- and if someone is prepared to work part-time and on 11 hour days - that is a hell of a day in charge of little ones. How old is/are the kid/s? Your Gemeinde is indeed a good start to find out about local conditions, and Tagesmutter- where your child/ren would go instead of Nanny at home- and who would have several other kids there too- so cheaper.

As said, it may well be illegal to asl someone to work an 11 hour day - and the salary per day mentioned is for an 8 hour day, not 11.

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We are looking to employ a nanny three days a week with 11 hours each day. The average hourly pay for a nanny is CHF 30 per hour, which would mean CHF 330 per day, 990 per week and over CHF 4000 per month. Extrapolating it, that would translate to CHF 6600 per month if we were to employ a nanny 5 days a week, which seems a lot of money.

A colleague told me that when we employ a nanny for whole days, it is common to pay a pauschal, which is typically between CHF 200 - 250 a day. We are massively confused now.

Please can you give us some guidance?
for 11 (ELEVEN) hours a day....you don't think you're taking the piss a bit ?

Your calculation is for 55 hours/week, for a 40 hour week thats Chf 4'800.-- !

Not quite a "private bankers'" salary though....
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Re: Fair pay for a nanny

I know an English Nanny who has been asked to work in Russia 12 days on 12 days off. Pay is £3500 a week with flights & airport parking paid by the employer.

Her last full time job in the UK paid £45,000 a year.
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Re: Fair pay for a nanny

a fair pay would be 57.72 CHF per hour for a good nanny. using a fairly standard 173.25 hours per month, this makes eh...
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Unfortunately, we don't have a choice. Happy to pay whatever is fair but just want to ensure we are not ripped off.....
....and to ensure the nanny isn't getting ripped off either.

(I think you meant to add that bit).
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Your calculation is for 55 hours/week, for a 40 hour week thats Chf 4'800.-- !

Not quite a "private bankers'" salary though....
Out of 11 hours a day, my children will not be around for 5 hours on average per day as they will be at school. But given our work timings, they cannot leave home when we leave for work. So the nanny needs to be here when we leave so that our children can leave for school 30 minutes later. The 11 hours come from that.
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Out of 11 hours a day, my children will not be around for 5 hours on average per day as they will be at school. But given our work timings, they cannot leave home when we leave for work. So the nanny needs to be here when we leave so that our children can leave for school 30 minutes later. The 11 hours come from that.
Life is about compromises - especially when you have children.

You either compromise on the time you leave for work or you compromise on money (the amount you pay the nanny).

30chf per hour is reasonable - in Zurich.

A solution would be 2 nannies - a morning nanny - and an afternoon one. With there being no nanny covering the 5 hour chunk. Additionally you could figure out a schedule when you and/or your other half spend some time with your children.
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Out of 11 hours a day, my children will not be around for 5 hours on average per day as they will be at school. But given our work timings, they cannot leave home when we leave for work. So the nanny needs to be here when we leave so that our children can leave for school 30 minutes later. The 11 hours come from that.
It doesn't matter, it's her time. Time she cannot plan to do other things for herself because she has to be at your disposal for 11 hours a day.

Time is money....where did we hear that? Hmmm....
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Out of 11 hours a day, my children will not be around for 5 hours on average per day as they will be at school. But given our work timings, they cannot leave home when we leave for work. So the nanny needs to be here when we leave so that our children can leave for school 30 minutes later. The 11 hours come from that.

So what ?

Is this how it works at the private bank too ?

You really are living in cuckoo land, mind you as a private wbanker........
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We are looking to employ a nanny three days a week with 11 hours each day. The average hourly pay for a nanny is CHF 30 per hour, which would mean CHF 330 per day, 990 per week and over CHF 4000 per month. Extrapolating it, that would translate to CHF 6600 per month if we were to employ a nanny 5 days a week, which seems a lot of money.

A colleague told me that when we employ a nanny for whole days, it is common to pay a pauschal, which is typically between CHF 200 - 250 a day. We are massively confused now.

Please can you give us some guidance?
Yes, it is relatively expensive to employ a nanny. That's why many would opt to send their kids to daycares or Tagesmutti. But if parents have two kids, then the difference wouldn't be too significant between hiring a nanny or sending the kids to a daycare.
You may want to contact the Swiss Nanny Association for some guidance.


Childcare is actually expensive. We've been fooled because it's used to be done by unpaid labour...
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Childcare is actually expensive. We've been fooled because it's used to be done by unpaid labour...
100% correct.
Same with everything "cheap" that we buy and toss....someone is paying somewhere else.
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Re: Fair pay for a nanny

why the hell would anybody take care of other's kids 5x11hours a week?
Employ two nanny for 60% and you can handle absences more easily...
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why the hell would anybody take care of other's kids 5x11hours a week?
Private banker, looking for a scam i guess
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