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Birth records access

Hi,

I was doing some digging and tracking down a family member that I've just recently found out about. All I know is that he was born in Zurich in 1994. Is there anyway I could have access to birth records without living in Switzerland as I live in the UK.

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Old 14.05.2017, 21:54
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Re: Birth records access

These days it is nothing like as easy as it used to be, even if you live here.
Zivilstandesamt is the name of the game. Heimatort is more important than birthplace as the records are kept there if the person concerned is Swiss.
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Re: Birth records access

Oh thanks. I know he was from the schwamendingen area but was born in zurich university hospital. How would I get more info?
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Re: Birth records access

Have you checked on Facebook? Most people are too daft to put dummy info on their profile.
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Re: Birth records access

I don't have a name unfortunately.
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Oh thanks. I know he was from the schwamendingen area but was born in zurich university hospital. How would I get more info?
First try search.ch ..... you'd find me in no time
But as most names are not as uncommon here as mine, at least you might find a few places he could live or if you don't get too many results, you could call them?
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Re: Birth records access

Call the civil office of zurich?
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Old 14.05.2017, 22:27
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Call the civil office of zurich?
You don't have a name?! Switzerland is tiny but we do have a hell of a lot births every year
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Re: Birth records access

haha I have family members who will know more info than me however, all I need is the birth records for that year and they can help me with the rest. So any help on finding the birth records would be appreciated in year 1994.
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I don't have a name unfortunately.
How do you expect to find anything without a name? How many births do you think happened in Zurich in 1994?

It's only 23 years ago - surely someone in your family knows a name that would help.

You also need to consider whether this relation would want you trying to find them. If you and your relations know nothing about them, why do you think they would welcome someone totally unknown to them suddenly digging into their life.
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Re: Birth records access

I don't do 'haha'! And on a Sunday evening I don't do folks' work for them.
You read my earlier post? Try here
No official offices are going to let you go through their records. Too many family feuds can be started by people finding stuff at the Zivilstandesamt who, in these times of data privacy or whatever it is called, should not have had access to the Informationen.

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haha I have family members who will know more info than me however, all I need is the birth records for that year and they can help me with the rest. So any help on finding the birth records would be appreciated in year 1994.
Then you need to talk with them first. What they know may negate the need for the birth record.

Alternatively, pay the £100+ fee to join Ancestry.co.uk for their worldwide access.
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Old 14.05.2017, 22:48
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Re: Birth records access

^What Medea said. And in case you do get a name, please do not post it here on EF. We have no idea who you are or what you want with this person, so please don't ask us to find him/her.

Unfortunately, I seriously doubt you're going to get far asking for blanket birth records. You're looking for one person yet want to ask to see personal information for potentially thousands of others? When you really think about it, you don't have any valid reason (from the standpoint of the authorities) to see all those other records.

If you have specific info such as a name, you can contact a municipality or maybe the hospital, but don't be shocked if they also want to know who you are and why you want the info.

Sorry if this comes across as harsh, it is not meant to be. Just a bit of a reality check with respect to what you're asking.
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Old 14.05.2017, 23:11
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Re: Birth records access

Just for the record, I am not talking out the back of my head. I've actually made a family tree here. And although I had the right office, the right guy on the phone, the dates of the parents and details of the family, there was no way I was getting the info I needed from him. Though I was pretty sure he had the stuff open in front of his eyes.

Another Standesamt guy in a different canton explained that they didn't give it out any more as there had really been cases at their office where details of births had been unknowingly given to the 'wrong' member of the family. A child born out of wedlock and unknown to half the family...

With the tree I made, in two cases I was lucky in that I managed to get hold of folk myself after months of searching. These were happy to be reconnected to other members of the family. However, some others did not want to be involved - and didn't want their details on the tree. I accepted it but it shows how it can turn out. A load of work and only unhappy results.
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Re: Birth records access

If you have reason to believe that the person you are looking for, born about 23 years ago, might be your own biological child then, maybe, maybe, you might get help from the KESB.

KESB is the Kinder und Erwachsenen Schutzbehörde, i.e. the government department in charge of protecting the rights of children and of adults in need of protection.

Just for a moment, I'm going to assume that the child is called Sasha and the mother Anna. If you are Sasha's father, then Anna would have had a claim against you to pay maintenance for Sasha while Sasha was growing up.

If Anna
  • did not tell you, or
  • could not find you at the time of the birth or later, or
  • if you did not pay the maintenance even though you knew about the claim,
and
  • if Anna were not wealthy enough to support Sasha herself,
then she might have had to receive support from social security.

If this was ever the case, then the Swiss goverment might be interested in claiming such support back from you. In that case, perhaps the KESB might be willing to be in contact with you

Even so, I doubt that the KESB would supply you with any information, in the way you are now searching. However, if you supplied the KESB with Anna's details, then they might go a-hunting, in order to get confirmation from her. If Anna confirms that you are the father of Sasha, then KESB may ask you to pay, retrospectively. I presume that then, KESB could hardly ask you to pay without supplying you with the details of Sasha, at least in terms of Sasha's birth, though not any current information (which they would not have, anyway, since Sasha is an adult). To be clear: if KESB got involved at all, it would be with the motivation of reclaiming from you the maintenace which would have been due by you for Sasha, through all the years.

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KESB is a relatively new government department, made when Switzerland recently fundamentally changed the way that matters of Child Protection are dealt with, and there are mixed reports, good and bad, about what they have achieved. I do not know whether KESB would do any of the above, as I have described it. I do, however, know of a similar story from much earlier, long before KESB.
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Re: Birth records access

These kinds of posts worry me greatly. There is usually a good reason why someone cuts off contact.

Even if someone had a legitimate interest in finding a 'lost' relative, do any of you know if the authorities (Zivilstandamt, KESB, adoption authority, etc.) would first contact the individual concerned, or if a child, the child's custodial parent/legal guardian, to get permission to release data?

In this case the person being sought is an adult now and should be able to decide for him/herself if contact is wanted.

There are too many people out there with nefarious intent, every time I see a post like this my spidery senses start tingling....
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Zivilstandesamt is the name of the game. Heimatort is more important than birthplace as the records are kept there if the person concerned is Swiss.
Birth are still registered at the place of birth. Also, if one needs it own birth certificate you would have to contact the Zivilstandsamt at place of birth.

Additionally, as other have said, they only give information to the very next of kin or to someone with power of attorney. Even for the details of my very own grand father I needed the written approval from my surviving grand mother.

PS: In 1994 there where exactly 3483 life births in the city of Zurich.
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Hi,

I was doing some digging and tracking down a family member that I've just recently found out about. All I know is that he was born in Zurich in 1994. Is there anyway I could have access to birth records without living in Switzerland as I live in the UK.

Thanks,
Ali
Why are you using an alias? Is it perhaps because you cherish privacy? Well so do others, that's why the info you're looking for will probably not be shared, especially not with someone living in a different country.

If the son is a family member, his parents are as well (at least the mother), perhaps the grandparents also. You wouldn't know about the birth unless someone spread the information. Ask the person who spread the news, or the parents, grandparents, etc.
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To be clear: if KESB got involved at all, it would be with the motivation of reclaiming from you the maintenace which would have been due by you for Sasha, through all the years.
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The system whereby Anna might have been able to claim the maintenance from the Swiss government is called "Alimentenbevorschussung".
http://www.ajb.zh.ch/internet/bildun...schussung.html

See also https://www.ch.ch/en/divorce-and-mai...contributions/
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Re: Birth records access

Did you try ringing the zurich hospital to check their record book?
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