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I would still need a lawyer to go through my template and have the lawyer submit this to the courts. I can't do this on my own.



Why not, the template has been drafted by lawyers, you fill in the gaps and present it. If the judge thinks it is unfair he will draw your attention to it.


As your divorce is "low-conflict" there is evidently trust on both sides, this is far more important than getting some 2 bit lawyer involved, fighting tooth and nail for you and destroying the remaining relation you have with your soon to be ex-partner.
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I would still need a lawyer to go through my template and have the lawyer submit this to the courts. I can't do this on my own.
Legally you can. No need for a lawyer at any Swiss court.
If you want a lawyer involved it is cheapest to get one single lawyer which will guide both of you in the process.
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Re: Divorce lawyer - Zürich

Thank you for all your supportive information. I have read through all the material online which is available and done research as well, even went to a legal representative. So I guess it is that simple. We both agree to the divorce, but would need someone to guide us through whether what we wish could be granted.

We have looked at the assets and liabilities and kids and etc as well. AHV included. Maybe I am just running out of energy...and need some form of support...
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Thank you for all your supportive information. I have read through all the material online which is available and done research as well, even went to a legal representative. So I guess it is that simple. We both agree to the divorce, but would need someone to guide us through whether what we wish could be granted.

We have looked at the assets and liabilities and kids and etc as well. AHV included. Maybe I am just running out of energy...and need some form of support...
You could visit them together.
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Old 30.01.2019, 16:32
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Thank you for all your supportive information. I have read through all the material online which is available and done research as well, even went to a legal representative. So I guess it is that simple. We both agree to the divorce, but would need someone to guide us through whether what we wish could be granted.

We have looked at the assets and liabilities and kids and etc as well. AHV included. Maybe I am just running out of energy...and need some form of support...
If your situation really is simple and you really are in complete agreement with each other, and want a bit of guidance, you can do almost all of your divorce online at www.divorce.ch. CHF 550, and you're done. A judge will still need to review the details, and will not agree to the divorce if s/he thinks it's unfair on one of the parties.
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Can also recommend this lawyer - had the first meeting today, and she ticks all our boxes for someone I/we can trust in terms of know-how, integrity, efficiency / saving costs due to good advice. Could have been a complicated situation given the circumstances, but she was intuitive and mediated extremely well.

Thanks EF, and Eva for recommending.


Looks like I'll be joining the club soon. We are going through separation first, as I still can't bring myself to agree to the divorce. So far, very low tension and, if anything, better relationship than for a long time but it looks like divorce will be after the two years unavoidable. Anyone knows equivalent in Geneva? We both speak French fluently, me better than spouse, so integrity, trust, avoiding conflict, efficiency, sound advice and fairness to both of us are more important than the language.
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Looks like yodelling has lost its sex appeal...I wonder why that may be!
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Old 30.01.2019, 18:54
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Looks like yodelling has lost its sex appeal...I wonder why that may be!



You tried with a mini kilt, apparently mini skirts are coming back into fashion !




Try and keep it amicable, it is so much easier and we won't speak about expense !
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Re: Divorce lawyer - Zürich

For what it's worth, we're still married, but mostly because I've been working more than full-time and haven't prioritised getting it done.

Future-X at some point meant it was super urgent because "women he dated thought it was important he was divorced for real"; I told him I would gladly sign the papers, but he should get the stuff organised. That was 9 months ago.

He came over for dinner yesterday and apparently NOW he will get it done. Fine for me. We have no conflict whatsoever with regards to the settlement, it's really just a question of doing it. Additionally, we're going to set up identical wills that cover the (little) savings we had when we separated, which we both feel belong to each other and shouldn't go to a future partner. Again, I'll sign if he gets the paperwork in order.

So yeah, I guess a very low conflict level easily results in...nothing happening. He has his life, with his job, his girlfriend and our son. A positive result of us separating is that he now works 80% and is much more involved with Junior than he ever was before. I have my 100%+ job, my son plus whatever private life my job allows me to have on the side and I'm very happy with my lot as well. Our son is doing surprisingly well and not complaining at all about living 1 week with one and 1 week with the other. I think sometimes he wishes his dad and I weren't on speaking terms, as he can't get away with saying "daddy says I can" crap: we actually check with the other when he tries.
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You tried with a mini kilt, apparently mini skirts are coming back into fashion !




Try and keep it amicable, it is so much easier and we won't speak about expense !


i can't think of anything I haven't tried to save my marriage in the last two years (except quit yodelling, which was not on the table anyway!)
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i can't think of anything I haven't tried to save my marriage in the last two years (except quit yodelling, which was not on the table anyway!)



Maybe you should Yodel on the table ?
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Maybe you should Yodel on the table ?


I could think of many other things I could do on the table...they'll remain just that...thoughts!
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I could think of many other things I could do on the table...they'll remain just that...thoughts!



When i broke my back many moons ago, i was in a plaster cast for 8 weeks and had to get the carpenter come round and saw 1.8cm off the table legs
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For what it's worth, we're still married, but mostly because I've been working more than full-time and haven't prioritised getting it done.

Future-X at some point meant it was super urgent because "women he dated thought it was important he was divorced for real"; I told him I would gladly sign the papers, but he should get the stuff organised. That was 9 months ago.

He came over for dinner yesterday and apparently NOW he will get it done. Fine for me. We have no conflict whatsoever with regards to the settlement, it's really just a question of doing it. Additionally, we're going to set up identical wills that cover the (little) savings we had when we separated, which we both feel belong to each other and shouldn't go to a future partner. Again, I'll sign if he gets the paperwork in order.

So yeah, I guess a very low conflict level easily results in...nothing happening. He has his life, with his job, his girlfriend and our son. A positive result of us separating is that he now works 80% and is much more involved with Junior than he ever was before. I have my 100%+ job, my son plus whatever private life my job allows me to have on the side and I'm very happy with my lot as well. Our son is doing surprisingly well and not complaining at all about living 1 week with one and 1 week with the other. I think sometimes he wishes his dad and I weren't on speaking terms, as he can't get away with saying "daddy says I can" crap: we actually check with the other when he tries.
Same here, we remained in legal separation status for about 18 years . Various reasons for that (health of my ex-husband). Partners in the meantime hated it, which surprised me because I didn't think anything of it. But it felt so, so good to be divorced last year. It was painless, quick, amicable and not expensive.

You do need however to take into account that any pension income earned during the time before divorce will have to be split (1st and 2nd pillar). Was a bit worried because my earnings were higher, but we came to an amicable agreement, and all are very happy. Including a very well balanced daughter.
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When i broke my back many moons ago, i was in a plaster cast for 8 weeks and had to get the carpenter come round and saw 1.8cm off the table legs
When I broke my back during very early years in Switzerland crossing icy streets in high heels to the office of Andersen Consulting (yes, that many moons ago), I still had that British resolve and went and laid on-top of an IBM mini-frame for the rest of the day (and yes, I owned the key to the computer room).

Spent the next 4 months laid out on my back, alone, on the floor of my duplex apartment, with only a box of Basler Läckerli sent to me by an intern in my employ to sweeten my days over Christmas.
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Same here, we remained in legal separation status for about 18 years . Various reasons for that (health of my ex-husband). Partners in the meantime hated it, which surprised me because I didn't think anything of it. But it felt so, so good to be divorced last year. It was painless, quick, amicable and not expensive.

You do need however to take into account that any pension income earned during the time before divorce will have to be split (1st and 2nd pillar). Was a bit worried because my earnings were higher, but we came to an amicable agreement, and all are very happy. Including a very well balanced daughter.

You sound like my ex.....
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You sound like my ex.....
You guys finally realized?
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You guys finally realized?
Just to make it clear: I sincerely doubt that Today Only is my ex-husband.
He's Swiss.
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He's Swiss.
Are you sure, he did not speak Swinglish when I met him.
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Are you sure, he did not speak Swinglish when I met him.
Well it's entirely feasible that you met my ex-husband. As we have such a good connection, can you give me insight on how you managed to maximise your pension income so well? PM highly appreciated!
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