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Kids GPS trackers

My eldest has just started school and like most 6 year olds he's expected to walk there by himself

We're building up the walk into stages, so each day we meet him a little further along the trip home. What complicates things is that his younger brother has just started kindergarten so even if we wanted, we cannot pick them up at the same time since both are in different parts of town but they both break up at 12:00 for lunch (nightmare).

Anyway one thing I spent the summer looking into was GPS trackers with integrated simcards so we can track the eldest in real time. I initially purchased a misafes watch with a Salt data sim, but I'm pretty disappointed by its GPS tracking capabilities. Its giving me an accuracy of +/- 300 meters which is pretty abysmal. There are also latency issues with the device which might be related to their servers being based in China... plus the customer support is non-existent.

The next device on my list is something called a Weenect which is a keyring type device. The reviews are a lot better and it has an integrated sim card with international coverage, which you pay a monthly subscription for. What I like is that its a French company with EU based support and servers based here. And since they make money from monthly subs, they're less likely to disappear like some of these generic Chinese manufacturers.



The key features are:
  • Real time GPS tracking
  • Alerts when they arrive and leave a destination
  • Geofencing so if they wander off you receive an alert
  • An SOS button which allows them to call you if they are in trouble (10 mins a month included)
  • 7 day battery life with notifications on your phone when the battery is low (30 and then 10%)
  • Worldwide data coverage included in the subscription (€4.50/month for a 12 month contract)

Just waiting for delivery and I will update this thread with my thoughts, but I hope this helps out other parents who are facing the same dilemma of letting the little darlings venture out on their own for the first time.

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Re: Kids GPS trackers

When I was young, kids starting Kindergarten managed to go there alone.

Having the parents going there with you? What are you, a little girl?

Enjoy spying on your kids.. I'm sure they'll like it..
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Old 21.08.2017, 21:58
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Re: Kids GPS trackers

The Chinese are well known for taking care of their kids .
Turn of the electronics & if you can't keep him/her company, follow at a discreet distance + make sure they are never alone.

You're the parent.
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Enjoy spying on your kids.. I'm sure they'll like it..
I don't know what type of styx you live in but a 6 year old has not developed the road or sense to have any kind of independence. The TCS says 7 years old minimum & even then it depends on the kid. You can't just lay it like a chicken & expect it to be self sufficient. The brain needs to develop too & as the parent of teens into *enties I can tell you, it takes a while.
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I don't know what type of styx you live in but a 6 year old has not developed the road or sense to have any kind of independence. The TCS says 7 years old minimum & even then it depends on the kid. You can't just lay it like a chicken & expect it to be self sufficient. The brain needs to develop too & as the parent of teens into *enties I can tell you, it takes a while.
Apparently, not many decades ago it must have been a totally different world then. Or all parents at the Kindergarten and primary school had super intelligent children..

Yes, there was no "Mami Taxi", and kids actually were smart enough to find the way to Kindergarten/school and back, all by themselves (after a bit of training, maybe.. but I don't recall having seen parents going with their kids to Kindergarten after some days, much less so to school)
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The Chinese are well known for taking care of their kids .
Turn of the electronics & if you can't keep him/her company, follow at a discreet distance + make sure they are never alone.

You're the parent.
Well the plan is that he walks to the rendez-vous point (his brother's kindergarten) and then they're both escorted home. I do worry because its a very busy town with hundreds of kids, teens, shoppers milling around at lunchtime and his school is bang in the middle of the commercial district. So that 600 meter walk to the Kindergarten is not something I'm entirely comfortable with... yet.

Anyway the tracker is a boring, discrete box tucked away in his school bag which is more for our peace of mind. I won't tell him what it is or does because I don't want it to be an object of curiosity in the playground.
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Well the plan is that he walks to the rendez-vous point (his brother's kindergarten) and then they're both escorted home. I do worry because its a very busy town with hundreds of kids, teens, shoppers milling around at lunchtime and his school is bang in the middle of the commercial district. So that 600 meter walk to the Kindergarten is not something I'm entirely comfortable with... yet.

Anyway the tracker is a boring, discrete box tucked away in his school bag which is more for our peace of mind. I won't tell him what it is or does because I don't want it to be an object of curiosity in the playground.
And how will the tracker prevents him from getting hit by a car or being bothered by an older kid?

With my own, we go through basic safety issues and try to imagine solutions together. As in, I took a wrong turn, I missed my bus stop, what do I do if I get lost, etc. Much more efficient in the long run than tracking my child as if he was a migrating whale in the ocean
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Old 21.08.2017, 22:16
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Re: Kids GPS trackers

Guys, this is not a replacement for common sense or basic traffic awareness. He knows how to cross roads, not to speak to strangers etc.. and we've spent the last week watching him do the walk (from a discrete distance). Its basically just another layer of security, and as I said peace of mind for us.
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Re: Kids GPS trackers

Interestingly, just today, I heard a report of an attempted abduction from a school in Basel Land: a man tried to force a kid into his car. The kid escaped and reported it to a teacher.
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Guys, this is not a replacement for common sense or basic traffic awareness. He knows how to cross roads, not to speak to strangers etc.. and we've spent the last week watching him do the walk (from a discrete distance). Its basically just another layer of security, and as I said peace of mind for us.

I totally understand how you feel. We live in a village and I see plenty of kids being escorted to school and some are dropped off as well. Often I see the children on my street waiting for one another and walking together.


Would you be able to find an older child to accompany your son so he doesn't have to walk alone? A bit of pocket money is always welcome as an incentive.


Personally I would want my child to have a device with access to a panic button and if the device is at the bottom of the knapsack I am not sure it is readily accessible. If it does have that feature but the child doesn't know what it is then what is the point in having it at all?


Have you looked at this product?
http://tamolino.ch/
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Re: Kids GPS trackers

In Zurich at least, you get allocated a Kindergarten or school where the route in foot has minimal road crossings etc.

I went with my son the first few times - after a week or two he was doing it by himself, meeting up with friends on the way etc. We've also happily let him go by bus / tram to his English language classes with his classmate. And they were allowed to decide themselves which combination of tram / bus they took.

Of course every kid / situation is different.

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I totally understand how you feel. We live in a village and I see plenty of kids being escorted to school and some are dropped off as well. Often I see the children on my street waiting for one another and walking together.


Would you be able to find an older child to accompany your son so he doesn't have to walk alone? A bit of pocket money is always welcome as an incentive.


Personally I would want my child to have a device with access to a panic button and if the device is at the bottom of the knapsack I am not sure it is readily accessible. If it does have that feature but the child doesn't know what it is then what is the point in having it at all?


Have you looked at this product?
http://tamolino.ch/
When my eldest was younger and he had to take the school buses by himself, we got him one of those extra simple Swisscom phones originally designed for technologically challenged old people. It had 3 big buttons with pre-memorized numbers, and a red alert one on the side.
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Re: Kids GPS trackers

I still walk my daughter to and from Hort which is 600 meters away and she's in 3rd class. She has started walking home alone one day a week and we wer going to increase that now so it will be everyday by the end of the school year. As to walking too... we both leave at the same time and it's on the way for me so it's not a problem. I know the Hort people think it's odd and I'm a helicopter parent, but the truth is I have tried to push her to go alone since kinergarten but she is just not secure in herself enough yet. And sometimes, when kindergarten asked her to walk to turnen with another kid they stopped at a play ground, and when by herself she ended up having hysterics halfway there and a stranger stopped in their car to help her (luckily it was a nice stranger). Anyway, the reactions from the teachers (not me, I wasn't there but you can imagine how freaked out I was when I got the call she was 30 minutes late from a 5 minute walk) scared her so much that it just pushed her deeper into her insecurities about walking alone.
Each kid is different, some are more confident than others. And everyone wants to do what is best for their kids.
However, I do worry about fitting my child with a GPS, not just for the 'never learning common sense' argument, but also because I don't really trust Chinese companies not to sell the details of where unaccompanied kids can be found.... I mean, I wanted to get that watch for her, that you can pre-programme with 3 numbers for emergencies, but I got very worried about the GPS, you can turn off the signal on your phone, but not on the kid's watch.... what's that about?
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Maybe you can adapt something like this?

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Interestingly, just today, I heard a report of an attempted abduction from a school in Basel Land: a man tried to force a kid into his car. The kid escaped and reported it to a teacher.
We had a couple of reported incidents like this when my girls were in primary. Turns out they were complete fabrications and the police even came in to clarify. However, they also took the opportunity to reinforce the "stranger-danger" principle.
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Guys, this is not a replacement for common sense or basic traffic awareness. He knows how to cross roads, not to speak to strangers etc.. and we've spent the last week watching him do the walk (from a discrete distance). Its basically just another layer of security, and as I said peace of mind for us.
yes same for us and this looks like a great solution. Each child has a different personality and the one we want to give the GPS to would make us feel much happier as she is a real worrier and would panic.

I think I might also invest.
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However, they also took the opportunity to reinforce the "stranger-danger" principle.
The principle that over 90% of child abuse happens in the family or very near surroundings (like neighbours, friends, teacher, priests,...)? I think the idea of some bad outsider is something parents prefer over the idea that the biggest dangers might be hidden in plain sight, but it's just factually wrong.
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The principle that over 90% of child abuse happens in the family or very near surroundings (like neighbours, friends, teacher, priests,...)? I think the idea of some bad outsider is something parents prefer over the idea that the biggest dangers might be hidden in plain sight, but it's just factually wrong.
Thats you being all rational and reasonable, all I see is 10%

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Thats you being all rational and reasonable, all I see is 10%

I am all facts. And they suggest that you should preemptively beat up the pastor instead of putting trackers on the kid...
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I'd buy a cheap android phone and download friend finder.
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