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Nah... they do follow up, too, and they're pretty well set up to do anything. They investigated something a bit scary for me that turned out to be a false alarm, and contacted me many weeks later for an update. I consider their service in that respect to be excellent.
That's useful to know. I went to them with a severe chest infection and they did a brilliant job (blood tests, X-Rays, antibiotics and whatnot) but the doctor there told me to go to my family doctor for the follow up to make sure the infection was subsiding.

I guess my hacking, mucus-filled cough wasn't as medically interesting as your scary thing so it didn't merit a second look.
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Can I just check that everybody is being told what I'm told ie there is no vaccine against Lymes. Having got it once I know it's present around us whereas TBE doesn't seem to be.
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I found this here.

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Lymerix was developed as a vaccine to protect against Lyme Disease. Lymerix (Lyme Disease Vaccine [Recombinant OspA]) received FDA approval in 1998, but was the subject of many reports of severe arthritis and the contraction of Lyme Disease itself. Federal health authorities investigated whether some people who received the Lymerix vaccine later developed severe cases of arthritis or Lyme disease as a result.
There were many law suits, including class action, and not all the legal battles are over.
In 2002, the maker withdrew it from the market, citing poor sales, despite Federal health officials finding no evidence that the vaccine was dangerous. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had advised that only those at high risk should be vaccinated, largely because the vaccine did not offer complete protection. research suggests it was 80 percent effective after a full course of three injections.
The vaccine to prevent the illness is no longer available.
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I guess my hacking, mucus-filled cough wasn't as medically interesting as your scary thing so it didn't merit a second look.
Before I discovered it was a false alarm, I'd have happily swapped...
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Re: Ticks in the forest, and vaccination

I have caught already a number of ticks and removed them myself or had someone do it for me when it stuck in places I couldn't reach myself. Never had any problems healthwise. Never went for a vaccination either.
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had someone do it for me when it stuck in places I couldn't reach myself.
I've never had problems reaching anywhere, myself.

It's all about flexibility, Sada.
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Re: Ticks in the forest, and vaccination

Congratulations on attracting such healthy ticks, Sada! I'd say it's still worth getting the jab though... especially for you if you seem to encounter them regularly. Who's to say what the next little bugger might be carrying, right?
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Congratulations on attracting such healthy ticks, Sada! I'd say it's still worth getting the jab though... especially for you if you seem to encounter them regularly. Who's to say what the next little bugger might be carrying, right?
I seem to be pretty resistant to all kinds of small and big beasts attacking me
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I found this here.
I'll give it a miss then
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Re: Ticks in the forest, and vaccination

I won't take any jabs for any form of plague being threatened, it's amazing how the medical profession scaremonger people into believing that immunizations will prevent virtually anything "nasty" out there. With ticks, you just need to make sure that you visually check over your body if you've been out in the woods with exposed skin and if you find them, yank them out immediately (tweezers, small pliers etc.) and then crush the beasts as they are rather non-destructive.

I'm out in the woods virtually every day running and I get to yank out a tick every month or so, and I'm still here. The pessimists will tell you about the "Fuchsbandwurm" next if you eat berries from the forest, these will live in your stomach for 20 years before breaking out (alien style) and knock you dead. Tskkk.
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I won't take any jabs for any form of plague being threatened, it's amazing how the medical profession scaremonger people into believing that immunizations will prevent virtually anything "nasty" out there. With ticks, you just need to make sure that you visually check over your body if you've been out in the woods with exposed skin and if you find them, yank them out immediately (tweezers, small pliers etc.) and then crush the beasts as they are rather non-destructive.

I'm out in the woods virtually every day running and I get to yank out a tick every month or so, and I'm still here. The pessimists will tell you about the "Fuchsbandwurm" next if you eat berries from the forest, these will live in your stomach for 20 years before breaking out (alien style) and knock you dead. Tskkk.
It might be worth pointing out that "yanking them out" perhaps isn't the best action. The official advice is to grasp them gently and slowly release them.

The last thing you want is to leave bits of its body embedded and leaking into your skin.
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I've never had problems reaching anywhere, myself.

It's all about flexibility, Sada.
oh you wild thing of a man you !!!
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With ticks, you just need to make sure that you visually check over your body if you've been out in the woods with exposed skin and if you find them, yank them out immediately (tweezers, small pliers etc.) and then crush the beasts as they are rather non-destructive.
That's pretty useless for preventing disease, don't you think? By the time you find the tick, it's already bitten you; it was either infected or not, and now you're either infected or not.

I'm not saying we should leave 'em in - I'm not a juice bar and don't wish to be one - but let's be clear: finding them and pulling them out doesn't do a thing to keep you safe from tick-borne diseases.
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It might be worth pointing out that "yanking them out" perhaps isn't the best action. The official advice is to grasp them gently and slowly release them.

The last thing you want is to leave bits of its body embedded and leaking into your skin.
I concur, just a phrase. You do indeed need to make sure that their fuselage and dangly bits are all removed cleanly. You need to know that I normally write technically and don't do well writing novels including gentle phrases.
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You need to know that I normally write technically
Doesn't that require a certain exactness of phrase?

As opposed, say, to writing a novel?
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Doesn't that require a certain exactness of phrase?
Absolutely, I was just giving a quick answer on EF, with a client on the phone, listening to the new Coldplay EP with the other ear, ie. not paying attention. You got me - bugger.

I'll get my coat and head for the door.... (technically speaking, covered exitway, usually supported by hinge assemblies with locking device to prevent unwanted access)
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Can I just check that everybody is being told what I'm told ie there is no vaccine against Lymes. Having got it once I know it's present around us whereas TBE doesn't seem to be.
No vaccination against Lymes disease. However, it can be treated with antibiotics. Treatment should begin immediately. If you suspect that an expanding rash was a tick bite, then see a doctor within a day.
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I won't take any jabs for any form of plague being threatened, it's amazing how the medical profession scaremonger people into believing that immunizations will prevent virtually anything "nasty" out there. With ticks, you just need to make sure that you visually check over your body if you've been out in the woods with exposed skin and if you find them, yank them out immediately (tweezers, small pliers etc.) and then crush the beasts as they are rather non-destructive.

I'm out in the woods virtually every day running and I get to yank out a tick every month or so, and I'm still here. The pessimists will tell you about the "Fuchsbandwurm" next if you eat berries from the forest, these will live in your stomach for 20 years before breaking out (alien style) and knock you dead. Tskkk.
Tick vectored Lyme disease can break out many years after the infective bite. Get a blood test to discover whether the bacteria are breeding within you.
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And I was already wondering why I did not get a bill... (but am of course not stupid enough to ask...)
I am living in the wrong Canton we had to pay 50frcs for each injection.

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I have just had my second jab, 3 months after the first, and was told by the Nurse at my Doctor's that after the third injection, I'm covered for 10 years..
I had my second jab after 1 month, we are also covered for 10yrs

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I second the ten years, but I got my second jab last week after only one month (?!). Maybe there are different vaccination products with different times in use?
Snap only 1 month after the first 1.

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It might be worth pointing out that "yanking them out" perhaps isn't the best action. The official advice is to grasp them gently and slowly release them.

The last thing you want is to leave bits of its body embedded and leaking into your skin.
I agree, but the best would be to go to the doctor`s to have it/them removed
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Re: Ticks in the forest, and vaccination

If ticks are so small how would you know if you have been bitten? I mean, is it possible to have a tick and not know it? What happens if it firstly goes unnoticed, do you then feel pain in the days after?
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