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Old 15.02.2018, 14:38
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The only time Curely bangs on about freedom is when the debate is smoking.

Ask a Pole, or a Czech, or a North Korean or anyone who has family that have died in a conflict fighting for freedom whether the most important thing about freedom is to be able to smoke where one wants.

Then ask a Swiss person what freedom means to them?
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The only time Curely bangs on about freedom is when the debate is smoking.

Ask a Pole, or a Czech, or a North Korean or anyone who has family that have died in a conflict fighting for freedom whether the most important thing about freedom is to be able to smoke where one wants.

Then ask a Swiss person what freedom means to them?
I just think it's funny to read a subject of Her Majesty lecturing a citizen of perhaps the last genuinely free state in Europe on the subject of freedom.
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Old 15.02.2018, 14:55
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I just think it's funny to read a subject of Her Majesty lecturing a citizen of perhaps the last genuinely free state in Europe on the subject of freedom.
Are you suggesting that current British subjects should atone for what was done in the past in the colonies?


Switzerland is only free because of the actions of other countries.

It may be the last genuinely free state in Europe but it didn't get here on it's on.

Another quote from that article, by an ex-smoker (wh0 is unable to smoke any more because of his health):

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The Viennese believe that they are something super-special and smoking is a very strong part of culture.
This could easily apply to Switzerland (some of the people at least)
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Exactly. This has been shown to be true. If they've got no one to emulate (if the smokers aren't in their face, they are less likely to start smoking).



Grow up.

Companies spend millions trying to make perfume smell as nice as possible.

Whilst you may personally not like the smell, if you managed to get your taste and smell sensors back, you'd realise that the smell of a smoker is much worse (that's you by the way).
You just took half of my sentence and quoted it. Nice.

Also what makes you think I smoke ? I used to. Don't anymore.
I just cannot stand people infringing on the freedom of others just because they don't like it.
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:02
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....Companies spend millions trying to make perfume smell as nice as possible.

Whilst you may personally not like the smell, if you managed to get your taste and smell sensors back, you'd realise that the smell of a smoker is much worse (that's you by the way).
LOL



No I will not try to explain anything to you. Your world is so tiny, it's no use trying in my opinion.

And I bang on about freedom 24/7, I'm well known for that. Freedom is for everybody, you see. But again, that's already out of range of your radar. So just keep on ranting (that's part of the freedom here too), never mind me snickering every now and then.

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........Switzerland is only free because of the actions of other countries.

It may be the last genuinely free state in Europe but it didn't get here on it's on.
LOL
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that's great, a drug-addict spearheading a campaign to keep his drug normalised.

It's not about freedom of choice at all. He just wants to satisfy his own selfish requirements.
BAN Drinking!!!11!!
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:05
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ban drinking!!!
Easy there tiger. Lets not get carried away here. We dont want a riot on our hands now do we ?
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:13
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No I will not try to explain anything to you. Your world is so tiny, it's no use trying in my opinion.

And I bang on about freedom 24/7, I'm well known for that. Freedom is for everybody, you see. But again, that's already out of range of your radar. So just keep on ranting (that's part of the freedom here too), never mind me snickering every now and then.


LOL
How about the freedom of non-smokers to breathe reasonably fresh, un-contaminated (by tobacco smoke anyway) air? Or doesn't that count?
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How about the freedom of non-smokers to breathe reasonably fresh, un-contaminated (by tobacco smoke anyway) air? Or doesn't that count?
<Raises_hand> Ouuhh ouuhhh...Me me!!! Non-smoker. I breathe fresh, un-contaminated air. Hang out with me ?

Honestly though, yes people smoke around other people who don't. But it isn't nearly as bad as what I read here.
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:15
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I can't stand the smell of perfumes. It induces nausea in me. Don't I deserve a perfume stench free environment ?
This doesn't apply to the vast majority of the population and anyway nausea doesn't impact your general health beyond a momentary discomfort.

Tobacco smoke does. See the difference?
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How about the freedom of non-smokers to breathe reasonably fresh, un-contaminated (by tobacco smoke anyway) air? Or doesn't that count?
Absolutely. More places than not you can do just that.
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:19
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This doesn't apply to the vast majority of the population and anyway nausea doesn't impact your general health beyond a momentary discomfort.

Tobacco smoke does. See the difference?
It was a joke man.
And what curley said. Seriously.
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:19
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Absolutely. More places than not you can do just that.
Like railway platforms when I'm waiting for a train? Oh, hold on....
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:33
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Are you suggesting that current British subjects should atone for what was done in the past in the colonies?
Er, whut?
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:39
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You just took half of my sentence and quoted it. Nice.
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Young smoke if they want to smoke. Emulating others who smoke, who are non-peers isn't really the reason why they do. They do either because they want to, or to fit in, or its peer pressure.
This has been shown to be true. If they've got no one to emulate (if the smokers aren't in their face, they are less likely to start smoking).

It's seen as a rite of passage. People smoke when they become adults - many because it's the normal thing to do.

With the attitude of people here to smoking, it is the normal thing to do.
Peers are under the same pressure. And yes, it is because they want to 'fit in' to society here.

This has been shown in numerous studies.

That is why I have suggested that the Austrian campaign is a selfish one. It's self-serving and does nothing to address the problem of young people starting to smoke.

Also from the study:

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Perhaps you could also explain why this deserves a 'LOL'?

Since when has cancer, heart disease, chronic lung disease, amputations,etc been a LOL matter?

Why do people here feel their own 'freedom'* is more important than the health of their children and future generations?


* their word.
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:45
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Why do people here feel their own 'freedom'* is more important than the health of their children and future generations?
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So you're saying women should smoke more lobsters?
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It was a joke man.
Don't give up the day job.

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And what curley said. Seriously.
Actually, maybe you do have some talent as a comedian after all.
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Old 15.02.2018, 15:48
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So you're saying women should smoke more lobsters?
If I continue to ignore you, will you get into one of your forum tantrums and start 'red blobbing' me along with childish insults as comments?

LOL
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If I continue to ignore you, will you get into one of your forum tantrums and start 'red blobbing' me along with childish insults as comments?

LOL
No, cos I think you're cute.

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Whilst you may personally not like the smell, if you managed to get your taste and smell sensors back, you'd realise that the smell of a smoker is much worse.
It isn't.
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